Shotguns

SkinnYSkinnY Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7500Members
<div class="IPBDescription">and pumpguns</div> have i understood this correct... ?


shotgun = fire away and then refill with new shells.

pumpgun = shoot, pump, shoot, pump, shoot, refill, pump, shoot.


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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Oct 4 2004, 07:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Oct 4 2004, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> have i understood this correct... ?


    shotgun = fire away and then refill with new shells.

    pumpgun = shoot, pump, shoot, pump, shoot, refill, pump, shoot.


    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Shotgun = double barelled hunting gun style thing.

    Pump-action shotgun = I think we all know what this means >:-)

    Semi-auto shotgun = does what it says on the tin

    That's the way I see it
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I think pumpgun is shotgun in german.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited October 2004
    Shotguns fire "shot." I'm not kidding. Shotgun shells contain multiple pellets with different "-shot" names, the number and size of which are determined by what type of shot it is. The only types I'm aware of are buckshot for hunting deer, pigeon shot for hunting small birds, and ratshot for a redneck alternative to cheese traps. (Homemade ratshot using rock salt instead of metal is probably the most sadistic-but-possibly-fun type of extermination I've heard of.) Since most shotgun shells are the same size, generally the larger the pellets the less of them you'll have per shell. Whether single or double barrelled, it can still be considered a shotgun.
    Pump shotguns are typically pumped before fired.
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    What exactly does the pumping accomplish? Eject the spent cartridge and load a new one in I'm assuming. Or mabey it builds up the pressure in the tank so you can fire water very hard/far.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited October 2004
    whoops.. it double posted..see below
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UnderDOG+Oct 4 2004, 12:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Oct 4 2004, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What exactly does the pumping accomplish? Eject the spent cartridge and load a new one in I'm assuming. Or mabey it builds up the pressure in the tank so you can fire water very hard/far. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh..tank?
    your kidding, dont you? are we talking about a shotgun, or a super soaker?



    oh..and there are full auto shotguns too like the usas ( i have a sexy video firing one of those 50 rounds full auto from a drum mag) wohoo

    and if i remember right the franchie spas 12 gauge got single(pump action) , semi , and a full auto mode
  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Oct 4 2004, 07:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Oct 4 2004, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UnderDOG+Oct 4 2004, 12:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Oct 4 2004, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What exactly does the pumping accomplish?  Eject the spent cartridge and load a new one in I'm assuming.  Or mabey it builds up the pressure in the tank so you can fire water very hard/far. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    huh..tank?
    your kidding, dont you? are we talking about a shotgun, or a super soaker?



    oh..and there are full auto shotguns too like the usas ( i have a sexy video firing one of those 50 rounds full auto from a drum mag) wohoo

    and if i remember right the franchie spas 12 gauge got single(pump action) , semi , and a full auto mode <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    USAS-12 = win

    Imagine dual-wielding them, like in the matrix <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    yes the second part was a joke, the name pump shotgun just always reminded me of super soakers.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SkinnY+Oct 4 2004, 12:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ Oct 4 2004, 12:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> have i understood this correct... ?


    shotgun = fire away and then refill with new shells.

    pumpgun = shoot, pump, shoot, pump, shoot, refill, pump, shoot.


    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Shotguns, as Marik said, fire shot or pellets, and are less commonly called scatterguns. They generally fire large sized shells filled with pellets of lead or steel that is effective at short ranges.

    They can usually also fire slugs, which are large, singlely fired bullets.



    I've never even heard the term pumpgun. I would assume it would refer to any shotgun that uses a pump-action to remove a spent shell and insert a new one into the breech.

    Or maybe some types of automatically reloading lever-action rifles where you can pump the trigger and lever down and pull it back up to eject a shell and load another.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Oct 4 2004, 11:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Oct 4 2004, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh..and there are full auto shotguns too like the usas ( i have a sexy video firing one of those 50 rounds full auto from a drum mag) wohoo <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Got a link to that video?
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited October 2004
    It's like Marik said. Shotgun is a general term meaning any weapon that fires shot. However, while shot type defines the size of the pellets in the round, the number of them is more defined by the gauge of the shotgun you're using. Just like wire, the lower the gauge, the bigger the shell. 12-gauge is bigger barreled than 20-gauge, 10 bigger than 12, etc. Gauge is the analog of calibre for bullets.

    Now, there are also several types of shotguns:

    Breach loading shotguns open up near the trigger and allow you to load a shell in the barrel. These can be one or two barrel.

    Pump-action shotguns hold anywhere from 3 to 9 (usually) or so shells in the pipe below the barrel and one in the barrel. Also some pipes are pluged by the dealer and can be unpluged to hold more shells. Many of them can be fired semi-semi auto by holding the trigger and continually pumping the pump, since the pump pulls the spent shell out, ejects it, slams another into the barrel and resets the firing pin. I think some of the more famous pumps, like the SPAS-12, can fire in true semi-auto... but I may be wrong.

    Semi-auto/auto shotguns, like the USAS, have a fully automated feed system which probably uses the recoil of the shot to eject and feed like most other weapons.

    I think there's also a few handle fed shotguns (think like the old Winchester rifles) around, but not many...
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited October 2004
    sure

    <a href='http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00120.wmv' target='_blank'>12 Gauge full auto ATCHISSON ASSAULT Shotgun (sorry..its not the usas 12 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )</a>

    oh.. the drum holds just 25 rounds (not 50, my fault) , in the video ive counted him loading 21.. full drums tend to jam. not the recoil reloads them, more the combustion gases of the "gunpowder" wich is gettin through a small hole in the barell and pushing against a gas piston wich is pushing the boltcarrier back, whos extracting the spent case, ejects it, and on its way back to the closed position it takes a new round from the magazine with it.
  • StrabismoStrabismo Join Date: 2003-10-27 Member: 22052Members
    edited October 2004
    I'm sorry Sheena but this is defenitely not a USAS on the video but I must admit that I have no idea what it is.
    USAS-12:
    <img src='http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976426198-1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    For visual people, these are shotguns:
    Browning Citori (over and under):
    <img src='http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/images/013085m.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Remington 11-87 (semi automatic):
    <img src='http://www.remington.com/images/firearms/1187_premier_lc.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Winchester defender (pump action) (mine, I've changed the stock for a pistol grip stock)
    <img src='http://membres.lycos.fr/strabismo/DefenderTactique.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    And the same but with the original stock:
    <img src='http://membres.lycos.fr/strabismo/Defender.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Shotguns uses ammunition like these (these are turkey loads): (they can be multiple (like on the image above) pellets or single slug or sabot)
    <img src='http://www.remington.com/images/ammo/premagtky.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    And pump action is not only for shotguns, this is a Remington model 7600, it is a pump action rifle:
    <img src='http://www.remington.com/images/firearms/7600wd.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    rifles shoots single bullets like this one (.308 win. shown)
    <img src='http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/1221/308win.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    (but you must use round-point ammunition for the 7600 because of it's magazine desing.)
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited October 2004
    oh..yeah, because its an atchisson assault shotgun... the korean daewoo precision industries usas 12 was developed after it, and is basicly exact the same gun..it just looks different from the outside. atchisson build the prototype 1972 with m16 components in a small ammount, and daewoo licensed the system somewhere in the 1980, and sells them also to the us. i think the us licensed the system back and build the gun themself now


    prototype.. the m16 parts are still to see there <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <img src='http://guns.connect.fi/gow/haatcaim.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    thats the one from the video

    <img src='http://www.thesupplybunker.net/pictures/weapons/atchisson_1984_us.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    but there are more <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    <img src='http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/hs10a-r.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.renar.gov.ar/cursos/novearmas/modelos/archivos/11/fotos/3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.thesupplybunker.net/pictures/weapons/m10b_3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://weapons.travellercentral.com/shotguns/shotgun_marder_auto.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.coyotecanada.ca/870_cqb_stock/argonaut/pics/Bayonet_I.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.coyotecanada.ca/870_cqb_stock/argonaut/pics/14_inch_gun.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.coyotecanada.ca/870_cqb_stock/argonaut/pics/14_inch_gun_II.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.coyotecanada.ca/870_cqb_stock/argonaut/pics/14_inch_gun_III.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    <img src='http://www.coyotecanada.ca/870_cqb_stock/argonaut/pics/Universal_Front_Adapter_Gun.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    oh.. ive almost forgot the HK CAWS

    <img src='http://www.gurpsmaster.de/caws.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    and the stupid pancor jackhammer

    <img src='http://stormy-night.org/weapons/weapons133.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    edited October 2004
    I've shot serveral full auto shotguns...

    Damnit They are totally worth it. and when loaded with slugs, blunt force trauma is most effective. I have Flechettes on hand in case I get the chance to shoot another one. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> If ever get a Full Auto weapon, something like that is definately going to be it!

    I've owned, and later sold several AOW weapons. Serbu Shotguns are serverally shortend versions of Mossberg line firearms. These can be used as conceiled weapons also. Assuming you paid the proper tax stamp and did your paper work.

    they also come with a nifty leg holster... I plan one day to own one for myself

    <img src='http://brd3.chosun.com/bemil/files/BEMIL035/upload/Serbu-Super%20shorty-2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />


    <----sells guns to pay for college
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Oct 4 2004, 12:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Oct 4 2004, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sure

    <a href='http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00120.wmv' target='_blank'>12 Gauge full auto ATCHISSON ASSAULT Shotgun</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> I want one of those....

    Thanks Sheena!
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    edited October 2004
    Legal weaponry scares me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->



    Especially with UZi around praising them and apparently selling them as if they're as common as collectibles.


    edit: after his edit, UZi scares me even more.
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    edited October 2004
    Hell yeah I do, I sell to cops too! You have a problem with it see me after class!

    As far as I'm concerned, if your BATF checks out ok I will sell you anything in the locker (thats not MINE!)

    You want to see scary? Take a look at Randy Weaver's family. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    I can't just GIVE it to people, I have to have it legally transferred in with a FFL (I do all my business with a friend of my mothers who we have a business agreement)

    I work on firearm I do some pretty good shotgun smithing along with making some of the most accurate Remington 700 Rifles out of washington.

    (spits)
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    It still scares me. You know that in such a large country, there's STILL going to be weapons that'll end up where they shouldn't.
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Oct 4 2004, 02:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Oct 4 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It still scares me. You know that in such a large country, there's STILL going to be weapons that'll end up where they shouldn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not the one putting them in their hands.

    Theres nothing I or anyone else can do to keep the weapons out of their hands. Any cop who says otherwise is a godamn liar and should be fired for lieing. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    If it's the weapons your scared of then maybe one should own one and empower themselves.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I know you're not the one responsible for the misuse, but somehow I just believe no-one has a real use for a 25 round auto shotgun.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Some of these look nice and interesting, especially reading up on them. I think I will find out the laws + licenses for owning weaponry in the U.K.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    Ah now I remember why shotguns are one of my favorite weapons. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thursday-+Oct 4 2004, 03:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 4 2004, 03:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some of these look nice and interesting, especially reading up on them. I think I will find out the laws + licenses for owning weaponry in the U.K. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The laws are very simple;

    You can't have one.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    aaahh..thats the "serbu super shorty" thatsfor pimps..
    if you want a shotgun with style get this one

    <img src='http://weapons.travellercentral.com/heavy/pagl.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

    this shotgun accepts 40mm canisters , and turns into a nice nadelauncher
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    I want a full-auto 40mm grenade launcher that shoots 900 nades/min. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nil_IQ+Oct 4 2004, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 4 2004, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Thursday-+Oct 4 2004, 03:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thursday- @ Oct 4 2004, 03:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some of these look nice and interesting, especially reading up on them. I think I will find out the laws + licenses for owning weaponry in the U.K. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The laws are very simple;

    You can't have one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That makes me sad every time I hear it.

    Thursday-, if you ever visit the East Coast give me a ring and I'll set you up with a certified introduction to firearms.


    Skeet shooting is one of my most favorite pastimes.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    full auto skeet shootin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Oct 4 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Oct 4 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> full auto skeet shootin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Full Auto isn't that fun. It is a bit hard to control how many shots you fire.
    Semi Auto is tremendous fun.
    Using a double barrel even more fun (and more accurate)


    Free lesson: If you value the use of your right arm. Never, fire both barrels at once with your back to a wall. Make sure you have lots of padding on your bum as well.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    edited October 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik_Steele+Oct 4 2004, 09:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Oct 4 2004, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shotguns fire "shot."  I'm not kidding.  Shotgun shells contain multiple pellets with different "-shot" names, the number and size of which are determined by what type of shot it is.  The only types I'm aware of are buckshot for hunting deer, pigeon shot for hunting small birds, and ratshot for a redneck alternative to cheese traps.  (Homemade ratshot using rock salt instead of metal is probably the most sadistic-but-possibly-fun type of extermination I've heard of.)  Since most shotgun shells are the same size, generally the larger the pellets the less of them you'll have per shell.  Whether single or double barrelled, it can still be considered a shotgun.
    Pump shotguns are typically pumped before fired. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    marik, on the rock salt note. You can fire dimes from shotguns as well >_<

    and sheena that shotty is pimperish..


    USAS-12 FTW

    [edit]
    ah usas discussion already happened >:D

    uzi the min shotty you showed was boss.
    [/edit]
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