Physx Ppu

SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Next gen hardware?</div> Physx is like a CPU or GPU but named PPU, it calkylates all the physics leaving less strain on the GPU.
So much more realistic crashes they can make with this. Planes fall apart rather then just go boom.

<a href='http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-17585-1998-x-x-x' target='_blank'>Check videos</a>

"Instead of having 100 boulders rolling down a hill we can have 1000 ones"
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  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    Meh, dunno...
    The thought of having a completely new set of hardware just kinda turns us poor people off. Plus the shooting and plane parts didnt feel so revolutionary at all.

    Liquids and particles on the other hand were utterly amasing.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Yes it's cool, but that's yet another card we have to upgrade regularly. And by looking at the price, I'm not too sure it'll be that wonderful for the average user.

    CPU + GPU + PPU = lots of money, lots of energy, lots of heat.
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    The PPU "Completes the triangle" so I dont think we'll be seeing much more new gaming hardware in a while.

    <a href='http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1117/AGEIA-Technologies-Interview/p1' target='_blank'>Look at pic at bottom</a>
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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    I think it's a fairly good idea, actually. It might cost more, but developing CPUs that would be able to handle as much physics calculation as another processor will probably be even more expensive.
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  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    The fluid dynamics right at the end looked nice, but yeah, the rest didn't see all that good.

    I say just wait until we see more duel-core cpus. One core for the normal game stuff, the other core for physics.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    It's really nice if you know it's done with absolutely no strain on the CPU. It's just a tech demo, not a full-scale game with top-notch graphics. Does it show good physics? Yes. That's all it's supposed to do.
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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    Yeah. Most of the stuff in the video(s) were not that amazing. The liquid being poured over the car had some pretty nice effects, though. But I wouldn't expect amazing from an unreleased prototype hardware running demo software.
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    well... there's still one more card to come y'know. We've got our graphics and audio and soon we'll have the physics. What's left? AI card!!! :D

    I seem to remember talk of a card to handle the crunching of running NPC AI being considered :o
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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    Soon we won't even need the CPU.
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  • SandstormSandstorm Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21205Members
    edited June 2005
    There's a demand for PPUs. Right now, they're being sold as seperate hardware, but we may see them integrated into 3D cards, motherboards, or even CPUs. However, what is really needed is an official driver standard for all PPUs, including software emulation if a PPU is not present. A DirectPhysics or OpenPL standard would do nicely, though they don't currently exist yet.

    Edit:
    I should add that, currently, sound is mainly produced from stock samples. A PPU would help produce sound "on-the-fly," especially taking advantage of an area's unique sound characteristics.
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  • EverwatchfulEverwatchful Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23084Members
    next we'll have cards that render nerve signals <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sandstorm+Jun 6 2005, 08:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandstorm @ Jun 6 2005, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's a demand for PPUs. Right now, they're being sold as seperate hardware, but we may see them integrated into 3D cards, motherboards, or even CPUs. However, what is really needed is an official driver standard for all PPUs, including software emulation if a PPU is not present. A DirectPhysics or OpenPL standard would do nicely, though they don't currently exist yet.

    Edit:
    I should add that, currently, sound is mainly produced from stock samples. A PPU would help produce sound "on-the-fly," especially taking advantage of an area's unique sound characteristics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mixed with CPU?
    Silly, that's what we do now
    That's a step backwards
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  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    geez, graphics are just getting more and more amazing.
    but are the games still fun?
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Imagine a detailed 3D Hentai game... with 'fluid dynamics'! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Shouldn't it be a pentagon?

    Physics -> Graphics -> <b>LIGHT</b>(Real time raytracing) -> Sound(Sound card) -> CPU(Everything else)
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  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xyth+Jun 6 2005, 12:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xyth @ Jun 6 2005, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shouldn't it be a pentagon?

    Physics -> Graphics -> <b>LIGHT</b>(Real time raytracing) -> Sound(Sound card) -> CPU(Everything else) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed.

    (Your wallet = Pwned)
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  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jun 6 2005, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jun 6 2005, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Imagine a detailed 3D Hentai game... with 'fluid dynamics'! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mmmh, fluid dynamics.... and i thought i was content with bump mapping.

    need... more.. realistic... game experiences....
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    I want a Not-even-near-any-sort-of-realism-at-all game. Nothing would make sense and mad fun.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Pfft.. I won't be happy untill I see a holodeck. :-)
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 6 2005, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 6 2005, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pfft.. I won't be happy untill I see a holodeck. :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You better have a clone frozen down somewhere then. Heck even if you do it might fail.
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  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Jun 6 2005, 01:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Jun 6 2005, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You better have a clone frozen down somewhere then. Heck even if you do it might fail. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    why would she need a clone? i thought she was the immortal mistress of the night or some such thing.
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NeonSpyder+Jun 6 2005, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeonSpyder @ Jun 6 2005, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Svenpa+Jun 6 2005, 01:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Svenpa @ Jun 6 2005, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You better have a clone frozen down somewhere then. Heck even if you do it might fail. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    why would she need a clone? i thought she was the immortal mistress of the night or some such thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We have a winner. :-)

    You have the magical eyes that see through the illusions cast by those who try to fool your eyes. :-)
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  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    glee, i have special eyes <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Status_QuoStatus_Quo Join Date: 2004-01-30 Member: 25749Members
    edited June 2005
    There's pills for that, you know.

    Edit: Is that correct grammar? I know it's "there are pills...", but can you use "there's" for that anyway? Is there another way to shorten "there are"?
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-status quo+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (status quo)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    There's pills for that, you know
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    Grammar question, ftw.

    That is not a grammatically correct sentence.

    It should read "there are", for "there is" does not work with the plural form of "pills".

    If you wish to use "there's" then you would need to change the sentence like so below.

    "There's a pill for that, you know."

    There is contraction for "there are."
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    there're

    immortal mistress of the night (and grammar) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    OMG! Cyndane will be able to outlive us all - and get an insane postcount!! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    Does... this mean that... the melon game in HL2 Garrys Mod won't be around any longer???

    DUN DUN DUN!
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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-caboose+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (caboose)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    there're

    immortal mistress of the night (and grammar)
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    No, "there're" is not proper.
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Jun 6 2005, 11:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jun 6 2005, 11:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Sandstorm+Jun 6 2005, 08:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sandstorm @ Jun 6 2005, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's a demand for PPUs.  Right now, they're being sold as seperate hardware, but we may see them integrated into 3D cards, motherboards, or even CPUs.  However, what is really needed is an official driver standard for all PPUs, including software emulation if a PPU is not present.  A DirectPhysics or OpenPL standard would do nicely, though they don't currently exist yet.

    Edit:
    I should add that, currently, sound is mainly produced from stock samples.  A PPU would help produce sound "on-the-fly," especially taking advantage of an area's unique sound characteristics. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mixed with CPU?
    Silly, that's what we do now
    That's a step backwards <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Needs more cowbell
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