I reckon the infestation ghost preview is for hive/harvester? I can't imagine running around as a Gorge with a ghost preview in front of me by default (assuming Heal Spray = Gorge spray). It would be uber annoying given what little we can see that isn't teeth decay :P
<!--quoteo(post=1831139:date=Feb 10 2011, 10:32 PM:name=Deagle2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deagle2 @ Feb 10 2011, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831139"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->+1 but don't forget we won't get to see DI yet, however with 2 weeks of work, it's gonna be great !<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why won't we see it? They got it working already, don't they?
The current belly slide needs work, as it is near to useless at the moment. If the DI prolongs the belly slide and turns it into a movement ability, then i'm all for it.
Sort of how the Lerk can fly forever and increase speed by rotating and rocking your aim, so the Belly Slide should be similar on DI.
<!--quoteo(post=1831143:date=Feb 10 2011, 10:42 PM:name=RUben1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RUben1 @ Feb 10 2011, 10:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831143"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why won't we see it? They got it working already, don't they?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not graphically, and it's a prototype anyway. They've said all this.
<!--quoteo(post=1831145:date=Feb 10 2011, 09:47 PM:name=DJPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJPenguin @ Feb 10 2011, 09:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831145"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When did NS2 get a Steam menu icon? Was bugging me that it was the only thing in my favorites list without one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I noticed this as well today, and I thought we were updated to 163 build without noticing it. lol
<!--quoteo(post=1831159:date=Feb 10 2011, 09:47 PM:name=HeliaXDemoN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HeliaXDemoN @ Feb 10 2011, 09:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831159"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Netcode priority, please.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> You waited two days, but your first post was a great and insightful addition and a genuine concern that hasn't been brought up at all before!
<!--quoteo(post=1831169:date=Feb 10 2011, 09:33 PM:name=Mendasp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mendasp @ Feb 10 2011, 09:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831169"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You waited two days, but your first post was a great and insightful addition and a genuine concern that hasn't been brought up at all before!
<!--quoteo(post=1831183:date=Feb 11 2011, 01:36 AM:name=BreadMan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BreadMan @ Feb 11 2011, 01:36 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831183"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We just all collected at Max's desk for a few minutes and watched him run through a bunch of tests. Diagnosis? It's gonna look really cool.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Great =D. But since this idea, has been brought 2 days ago in this same topic, this only means one thing. Even if you don't know it, MAX IS WATCHING YOU ! Or at least the topic :D
<!--quoteo(post=1830485:date=Feb 8 2011, 01:23 PM:name=Price)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Price @ Feb 8 2011, 01:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830485"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i hope they will add some day a "nightvision" for aliens :(<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--quoteo(post=1830488:date=Feb 8 2011, 01:40 PM:name=Cymen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cymen @ Feb 8 2011, 01:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830488"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What the heck would they need that for? The marines are literally glowing in the dark! The darkness only lasts for 3 seconds or so....AND aliens already have hive-sight so they can see the marines EVERYWHERE. I see no use whatsoever for any kind of night-vision...no offence.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--quoteo(post=1831204:date=Feb 10 2011, 05:21 PM:name=Zek)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zek @ Feb 10 2011, 05:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831204"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How come so much stuff keeps getting added to 163? It seems like performance has sort of fallen by the wayside recently.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its been a while since we've had any significant goodies added. I'd really like to see one of the planned features (onos, DI, jp, ARC, etc.) included in one of the upcoming patches. Optimization and bugfixing is important, but feature release is needed to keep up UWE and player moral.
<!--quoteo(post=1831209:date=Feb 10 2011, 05:26 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Feb 10 2011, 05:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831209"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Its been a while since we've had any significant goodies added. I'd really like to see one of the planned features (onos, DI, jp, ARC, etc.) included in one of the upcoming patches. Optimization and bugfixing is important, but feature release is needed to keep up UWE and player moral.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you played recently, bro? There's typically only one server with players on it and that server is never full to begin with. Morale is already low. Connectivity is just awful right now; add to the fact that marines love to medkit and ammo spam.
<!--quoteo(post=1831217:date=Feb 10 2011, 05:49 PM:name=Kuriin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kuriin @ Feb 10 2011, 05:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831217"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Have you played recently, bro? There's typically only one server with players on it and that server is never full to begin with. Morale is already low. Connectivity is just awful right now; add to the fact that marines love to medkit and ammo spam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, they're going to have to implement the features eventually, might as well get that out of the way and continue optimizing the game. At least we'll see how the game handles the new content, and find a solution from there on out.
<!--quoteo(post=1831204:date=Feb 11 2011, 01:21 PM:name=Zek)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zek @ Feb 11 2011, 01:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831204"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How come so much stuff keeps getting added to 163? It seems like performance has sort of fallen by the wayside recently.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Max has stated several times lately that performance & optimisations are his top priority, just because its not in the tracker and its not being talked about 24/7 doesnt mean its not being addressed, if performance bugs you, don't you think it will bug the developers more? Every patch lately has gained a little bit more performance, i expect this will continue. Hopeful for a patch this weekend lads, with or without DI.
:D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Netcode isn't an issue, server performance is. This was explained in the technical Q&A posted just two days ago. Please read it. Summary: The lowest ping you can get from a server is based on the update rate. If the server update rate is 2 per second (really really bad), that means the lowest ping you can achieve is 500ms.
Server performance is generally a lot better with higher MHz server machines, as testified by endar - operator of one of the only decently-running NS2 servers currently.
Skulkrush is a very nice server, last days i play on it and it has like no lag. I hope they fix hydras, they increase the lag and lerk spikes into walls too!
Lolz, and i thought i was only one pissed when only thing UWE does nowdays is some useless crap and not fix the netcode and performance issues. Guess i was wrong. BRB in year or 2 if this has been fixed by then. But like UWE would care, i already paid them.
<!--quoteo(post=1831442:date=Feb 11 2011, 06:31 PM:name=Onozki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Onozki @ Feb 11 2011, 06:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1831442"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lolz, and i thought i was only one pissed when only thing UWE does nowdays is some useless crap and not fix the netcode and performance issues. Guess i was wrong. BRB in year or 2 if this has been fixed by then. But like UWE would care, i already paid them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We HAVE acknowledged and addressed this on numerous occasions. Max has stated countless times that performance is his #1 priority at the moment, and that is what he has been focused on. Even tasks which may seem on the surface to not be directly related to performance usually are. Its not like there is one problem that is causing all the lag and low framerate, and Max can come on and say we are going to fix X bug and its going to solve all your problems. Max has a list of numerous optimizations that are planned, and hopefully each one of those will keep improving the game more and more.
Its not an exact science. Some optimizations that are expected to make a big impact sometimes result in smaller then expected gains, and vice versa. One optimization may have a large impact, but some other issues may be holding back the gains made from it. Add to that, everyone is running on a completely different system. Some people may see huge gains with one type of graphics card, while people with other cards, don't. Optimizing a game to run on a large spectrum of system specs is a very daunting process, compared to optimizing a game around 1 type of hardware, like an xbox or playstation.
These are all partly reason why we don't want to hype up certain optimizations that are being worked on, because everyone will expect a huge improvement and then be potentially disappointed when the patch comes out and they don't see any difference.
Trust me, Max is as frustrated as any of you. The poor performance eats away at him every day, and he is working hard to improve server lag and framerate. The new features and prototyping you see are coming mostly from Charlie's end (such as the DI at the moment) so its not taking time away from Max's optimizations.
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+1 but don't forget we won't get to see DI yet, however with 2 weeks of work, it's gonna be great !
Why won't we see it? They got it working already, don't they?
Sort of how the Lerk can fly forever and increase speed by rotating and rocking your aim, so the Belly Slide should be similar on DI.
Not graphically, and it's a prototype anyway. They've said all this.
I noticed this as well today, and I thought we were updated to 163 build without noticing it. lol
You waited two days, but your first post was a great and insightful addition and a genuine concern that hasn't been brought up at all before!
Welcome!
Welcome!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thx
:D
We just all collected at Max's desk for a few minutes and watched him run through a bunch of tests. Diagnosis? It's gonna look really cool.
Great =D.
But since this idea, has been brought 2 days ago in this same topic, this only means one thing. Even if you don't know it, MAX IS WATCHING YOU !
Or at least the topic :D
<!--quoteo(post=1830488:date=Feb 8 2011, 01:40 PM:name=Cymen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cymen @ Feb 8 2011, 01:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830488"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What the heck would they need that for? The marines are literally glowing in the dark! The darkness only lasts for 3 seconds or so....AND aliens already have hive-sight so they can see the marines EVERYWHERE.
I see no use whatsoever for any kind of night-vision...no offence.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Alien dark vision effect"
Alright, I will take back my last statement XD
Looks like at least next week though?
Looks like at least next week though?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's likely, and even then DI stuff might not make it in 163 :<
Its been a while since we've had any significant goodies added. I'd really like to see one of the planned features (onos, DI, jp, ARC, etc.) included in one of the upcoming patches. Optimization and bugfixing is important, but feature release is needed to keep up UWE and player moral.
Have you played recently, bro? There's typically only one server with players on it and that server is never full to begin with. Morale is already low. Connectivity is just awful right now; add to the fact that marines love to medkit and ammo spam.
Well, they're going to have to implement the features eventually, might as well get that out of the way and continue optimizing the game. At least we'll see how the game handles the new content, and find a solution from there on out.
Max has stated several times lately that performance & optimisations are his top priority, just because its not in the tracker and its not being talked about 24/7 doesnt mean its not being addressed, if performance bugs you, don't you think it will bug the developers more? Every patch lately has gained a little bit more performance, i expect this will continue.
Hopeful for a patch this weekend lads, with or without DI.
Cool, can't wait to see it crawl :)
Don't forget to fix the glitchy whip attack animation!
:(
Still, I am really looking forward to all the goodies that are being worked on at the moment. CAN'T WAIT.
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Netcode isn't an issue, server performance is. This was explained in the technical Q&A posted just two days ago. Please read it.
Summary:
The lowest ping you can get from a server is based on the update rate. If the server update rate is 2 per second (really really bad), that means the lowest ping you can achieve is 500ms.
Server performance is generally a lot better with higher MHz server machines, as testified by endar - operator of one of the only decently-running NS2 servers currently.
I hope they fix hydras, they increase the lag and lerk spikes into walls too!
<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We HAVE acknowledged and addressed this on numerous occasions. Max has stated countless times that performance is his #1 priority at the moment, and that is what he has been focused on. Even tasks which may seem on the surface to not be directly related to performance usually are. Its not like there is one problem that is causing all the lag and low framerate, and Max can come on and say we are going to fix X bug and its going to solve all your problems. Max has a list of numerous optimizations that are planned, and hopefully each one of those will keep improving the game more and more.
Its not an exact science. Some optimizations that are expected to make a big impact sometimes result in smaller then expected gains, and vice versa. One optimization may have a large impact, but some other issues may be holding back the gains made from it. Add to that, everyone is running on a completely different system. Some people may see huge gains with one type of graphics card, while people with other cards, don't. Optimizing a game to run on a large spectrum of system specs is a very daunting process, compared to optimizing a game around 1 type of hardware, like an xbox or playstation.
These are all partly reason why we don't want to hype up certain optimizations that are being worked on, because everyone will expect a huge improvement and then be potentially disappointed when the patch comes out and they don't see any difference.
Trust me, Max is as frustrated as any of you. The poor performance eats away at him every day, and he is working hard to improve server lag and framerate. The new features and prototyping you see are coming mostly from Charlie's end (such as the DI at the moment) so its not taking time away from Max's optimizations.
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->