cyst suicide???
OwiecPL1986
Join Date: 2012-11-21 Member: 172755Members
Join Date: 2012-11-21 Member: 172755Members
Today i had really strange situation. I was alien commander and cyst what i build were destroing themself without any reason? I am playing in this game really long but today i had first time situation like this.
I am 100% sure no marins near cyst. It happend on the beginning of game and after, durign the game. Even my team said me to enemy there.
I couldnt do anything and we lose.
It was totaly random, i was build first cyst, second cyst, third cyst and then first and second destroy without any reason.
Build new cyst destroy old cyst in random way...
Can samebody solve this riddle?
I am 100% sure no marins near cyst. It happend on the beginning of game and after, durign the game. Even my team said me to enemy there.
I couldnt do anything and we lose.
It was totaly random, i was build first cyst, second cyst, third cyst and then first and second destroy without any reason.
Build new cyst destroy old cyst in random way...
Can samebody solve this riddle?
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Don't be an ass.
OP, sotanaht OS correct. Put more space between cysts. At least an onos apart if you want to be safe.
If you place the cyst within the first circle it will destroy the original cyst which could very well cause the newly dropped cyst to be unconnected and therefore destroy the newly dropped one.
The inner circle is only displayed when your too close to another cyst.
I was comm while Owiec was khamm on this very Veil game, wondering why aliens's expansion would be so poor.
I said same thing to OwiecPL1986 about cysts being too close, I thought that was the reason.
But the next round, I khammed on same map.
We started Pipe, I expanded cargo, then to Y-junction and for some reason, every cyst I would put on y-junction died.
I tried to cyst from C-12, then down to Y-junction, and again, cysts would die there.
I can ssure you it was not because of the range between cysts.
After a while, I was able to cyst in this area as usual.
Usually the only way to fix the issue is to connect the cyst chain from the other side (in this case from nano to c12) and then the issue goes away.
I'm pretty sure people have tried reproducing this without any luck so if you have more details (did the server have any mods? or was the server idle on veil before the game started?) that could potentially help track this down.
This is only for the bug Tempest describes, where you are unable to create a cyst chain, and has nothing to do with minimum cyst distance - i.e. "redeploying cysts"
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The problem was on map with nano grid on the whole map.
I played as alien com a few days ago on other map and i didn't have any problem with cyst.
I was started game as alien in south-west.
But this topic here isn't about pre-placed cysts doesn't obey the new min-range rule.
That's what I did and maybe that's what solve the problem at some point but I can't be sure
The server had no mod, it was "GamingDeluxe.co.uk Official Server" rookie friendly
For some random reason, I took a snapshot at start when we were waziting for an alien kham (Owiec1986PL) :
but you probably pushed the screenshot button?
I build two new hives and when the new hives were cut from the first hive by destroy the cyst on the path, then cysts near new hives disable. Even after new hive finish build! I couldnt build new cyst from new hives. I connect for one moment first hive by cyst and it work again but after destroing the path again, cyst near new hives stop working again... Ofcourse we lost because of that. Playing as alien on map with nano grid have no sense now. Banish this map to time when you repair this
Is there a log either client or server that could be pulled if this occurs?
Thought he was describing that a cyst dropped from new hive won't connect to old chain. Misread.
No, it's actually an old bug.
So to win the game by marins you have to cut cysts from the first hive, during new hive is growing and you win. Just care about cut the path.
It's so irittating when you lost again by some bug on alien side and other players criticize you because they dont know about this bug. I like play random, but it's not fun play as alien com when you have so often problems with build because of bugs... It cause i lost fun play as alien com. Mayby not first time when did happen but after some time it's really irritate.
Anyway... marins who know about that care about cut the path. It just make big disadvantage for alien. Ofcourse when you play vs not expirence marins thats not big problem but when you have expirence enemy every lost minuts is a problem.
I dont understand how can you say, its a bug but dont fix it because we can use some trick to solive this bug during the game. (anyway the solution what you describe didnt work for me)
I read posts verbatim, and from that infer more. You did say "I don't think it's a real bug", so understand my viewpoint, rather than insinuating I didn't read your post(s).
You only need to place 1 Cyst to fix this. This has never lost a game for me. If a fix of this bug would cost server performance, I rather would not have it fixed, because it is so easy fixable by the player.
1) hive in sub-access
2) infest to cargo and pipeline
3) build new hive in cargo and pipeline (i were building in both)
4) during the new hives growing up cut the path of cyst from first hive to new hives
5) during no connection new hives finish grow
6*) I cant build cysts from new hives. I guess harvesters also dont works too.
7) I connected again by cysts the infestation from first hive to new hives
8) All cysts start work again
9*) The path from first hives to new hives were cut again and then again cysts stop works. It's look like new hives dont connect to cysts.
Cysts were build before i start build new hives.
***Mayby i miss something, i dont know. I describe what i did in last game when i found this bug and test this bug in the same game.
And i reapeat 1000 times: connect for a while first hives to new hives dont fix this. In that case alien can only loose the game if marins care about cut the path. If you play not only on official servers, but in the servers where are expirence marins they do that and game is shity then. No problem if you play 5vs5 or something like that. Marins are not too strong to get this points of map but when you play about 10vs10 just dont have any chance. Aliens also need more egs (number of players), so need shift and build more eggs. A lot of work to do and this bug destory the game. I am not sure but i think harvesters stop give resources because cysts are disable. Just unsense.
That is the usual fix.
Generally, as soon as a hive grows I place a cyst next to it to connect the hive to the chain. Hives do not auto connect to cysts near them when they grow. You always need to drop a fresh cyst near the hive to update the cyst chain.