Electrified Rts

RyoOhki · April 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">A rumour?</div> I know all about the electrified turret factories, but I keep hearing people talking about electrified resource towers. Is this what I suspect it is: a rumour/typeing mistake? Could someone confirm/deny this?

Pegenator · April 2003

I really can't deny it, but I doubt that there will be any electrified RTs... It would imbalance the game too much IMO

evilops · April 2003

In the thread where the confusion started, none of the playtesters actually said anything at all about an electrified res tower. Someone misread, I think, and asked wth this talk about electrified rts was, ending up in other ppl reading THAT and asking themselves etc.

So yeah, 99% sure it's just some mistake <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

ZeroByte · April 2003

There was a screenshot posted by a playtester (although he wasn't supposed to) of a RT with the HL glow much like the electrified TF. Dunno whether to take it as the truth though.

RyoOhki · April 2003

Really? I'll have to check those 1.1 shots again...could have sworn I saw nothing...

The_Real_Quasar · April 2003

I never saw something like that either. Possibly a voogroo mod?

RyoOhki · April 2003

Well I've checked all of the 1.1 pics and there's no electrified RT anywhere in any of them.

Hellbilly · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZeroByte @ Apr 15 2003, 10:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> There was a screenshot posted by a playtester (although he wasn't supposed to) of a RT with the HL glow much like the electrified TF. Dunno whether to take it as the truth though.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
There is a Metamod plugin somewhere that makes the RT´s glow. That´s about all it does.

LockNLoaded · April 2003

i think i read in the 1.1 TF topic saying something about TFs getting the ability to upgrade and in the process damaging any hostiles near it. i.e TF build NEAR RT to protect it ALONE, no need for turrets. i think thats it.

ZeroByte · April 2003

Idunno... might have been edited out cause of the playtesters NDA (they're not supposed to post screenies). I'm not really sure if I saw it right. I think I was up late so I might have just gotten the screenshots jumbled up but I think that's what I saw.

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<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=29055&st=35#entry365346' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=35#entry365346</a>

see, Regis posted a screenshot in that post and he edited it out afterwards. The post below his asks about the electrified RT.

Ph0enix · April 2003

Self nuked.

Keyser · April 2003

So I guess we can be expecting electrified TFs, good find Pheonix. I wonder how much this will change gameplay?

Sephiroth2k · April 2003

yep, sounds pretty good actually.might just be a little _too_ hard to kill the tfac's/rt's. and do alien structures have any sort of self-defense?

Archzai · April 2003

WTH half the time of a 1.04 game (which is 22 minutes)

dude... 11 minute games?!?!?! that sux! >.<

i love NS cuz it is not a quick fix.... but it takes while to play!

Pegenator · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sephiroth2k @ Apr 15 2003, 07:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yep, sounds pretty good actually.might just be a little _too_ hard to kill the tfac's/rt's. and do alien structures have any sort of self-defense?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Aliens can build OCs just about anywhere, there's your self-defense.

Redford · April 2003

Note that in this screenshot, the TF is not only glowing teal, but it's shooting a BOLT OF LIGHTNING at the nearby Onos.

Does that answer your question?
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-2-1050298401.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/up...-1050298401.jpg</a>

Pegenator · April 2003

The magical bolt of lightning!! OHH!

(How is that possible?)

100. post yay

BarxBaron · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>yep, sounds pretty good actually.might just be a little _too_ hard to kill the tfac's/rt's. and do alien structures have any sort of self-defense?
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yes .....its called OCs being able to be put anywhere without a defencless structure to make it work.......drop 1 OC at a RT and look......a electri.....err I mean OCed RT <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

I bet electric RTs need to be researched like when you upgrade TF to adv TF.....it would be too strong imo if it was a standalone researchable thing (like lvl1 armor, etc)

bah I also see peg beat me to the punch <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Young_Trotsky · April 2003

I can't believe people are still making threads like this, I also can't believe that people are replying with stuff like "really, i hadn't heard about this rumour..."
Do you people even bother reading the info in the 1.1 thread or any of Flayra's announcements?

Young_Trotsky · April 2003

For those of you who are still to dumb to go find the info for yourselves, here is Flayra's quote:
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
QUOTE (Flayra @ Apr 9 2003, 12:36 PM)

Oh, another thing about that electrical upgrade: you can research it for a turret factory OR a resource node. Right now it attacks up to two different targets, and actually has a bit of a range. I'm really excited about this for the following reasons:

- Marines can actually defend nodes if they want to spend some cash to do so
- Turret placement won't matter as much (sounds bad but I think is good)
- Building just a turret factory to defend (!) should now be viable, as should building one turret, two turrets, etc. I think we'll see strats where you build a turret factory near the CC, then research electrical on it to defend it. Or strats where you build a couple TFs next to each other to make an electrical wall. Or marines using it like a bunker, firing from behind it. Or marine structures built between their TF and node, forming an electrical defense, etc.

This upgrade, along with all the other changes, should allow both teams to really try some sick strats. I can't wait. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Now can someone please lock this thread...

SoulSkorpion · April 2003

Actually, now that you mention it, electrified RTs would be an EXCELLENT idea. As I said in the S&I forums in some post, the reason marines lose so many pub games is that they have a much harder time holding down res towers than the kharaa do, due to the fact that the kharaa can easily tell whenever any of them are under attack.

But then again, with the reworked resource model the problem might resolve itself.

abtm · April 2003

This thread along with other rumour mills needs to be closed, I've reported this thread to the administration already.

Thanks

Cruzz · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pegenator @ Apr 15 2003, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Aliens can build OCs just about anywhere, there's your self-defense.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
So, a building which cannot hit marines that are anywhere else except directly in touch with it when it fires counts as self defense? I'd rather have a skulk that's unable to move for some reason parasiting marines to death than an offense chamber, that's how "good" they are.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
electrified RTs would be an EXCELLENT idea
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All hail the wisdom of making marine tech rush even easier <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>! Maybe the game has changed so much that it won't be that much of a problem, or maybe it hasn't.

SoulSkorpion · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (abtm @ Apr 15 2003, 09:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This thread along with other rumour mills needs to be closed, I've reported this thread to the administration already.

Thanks  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I was under the impression that the "report this post" button was for offensive posts, not repetition :/

Ph0enix · April 2003

Sigh.

I don't have a problem with speculation/discussion about possible/intended features in 1.1.

What I can't abide is <b>mindless</b> speculation/discussion. Please think before you post.

abtm · April 2003

Many people find it hard to think before they do and rumour mills get WAY out of hand.

Young_Trotsky · April 2003

This isn't even the start of a rumour, it's a question that was answered a week ago that's being asked AGAIN

Supernorn · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>- Electrified nodes/turretfactories seem to work well. They're not invulnerable, but they're great as a medium build (some tech, some expansion). -Flayra </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

possible to change, but i doubt it.

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=24452&st=45' target='_blank'>stickied 1.1 thread (page 4)</a>

abtm · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Young Trotsky @ Apr 15 2003, 09:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This isn't even the start of a rumour, it's a question that was answered a week ago that's being asked AGAIN  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Either/or it's annoying and should be killed.

Frogg2 · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Oh, another thing about that electrical upgrade: you can research it for a turret factory OR a resource node. Right now it attacks up to two different targets, and actually has a bit of a range. I'm really excited about this for the following reasons:

- Marines can actually defend nodes if they want to spend some cash to do so
- Turret placement won't matter as much (sounds bad but I think is good)
- Building just a turret factory to defend (!) should now be viable, as should building one turret, two turrets, etc. I think we'll see strats where you build a turret factory near the CC, then research electrical on it to defend it. Or strats where you build a couple TFs next to each other to make an electrical wall. Or marines using it like a bunker, firing from behind it. Or marine structures built between their TF and node, forming an electrical defense, etc.

This upgrade, along with all the other changes, should allow both teams to really try some sick strats. I can't wait. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

<a href='http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t=147' target='_blank'>http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=147</a> scroll down

Sephiroth2k · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BarxBaron @ Apr 15 2003, 01:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>yep, sounds pretty good actually.might just be a little _too_ hard to kill the tfac's/rt's. and do alien structures have any sort of self-defense?
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

yes .....its called OCs being able to be put anywhere without a defencless structure to make it work.......drop 1 OC at a RT and look......a electri.....err I mean OCed RT <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

I bet electric RTs need to be researched like when you upgrade TF to adv TF.....it would be too strong imo if it was a standalone researchable thing (like lvl1 armor, etc)

bah I also see peg beat me to the punch <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
ummm okay, so what? you can use ocs to defend resource chambers right? well you can put turrets up to defend resource towers for marines as well. why should the marine resource tower be self-sufficient while the alien resource chamber needs a chamber to protect it?

Electrified Rts

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