Woman Killed By Her Own Pitbulls...(911 Call)
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<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MIDDLEBURG, FL -- Two pit bulls killed their owner in Middleburg Tuesday morning.
The incident happened at a home on Cosmos Road, which is south east of County Road 218 and Hibiscus Avenue.
The victim is identified as 42-year-old Tina Marie Canterbury. The dogs turned on her when she took out the trash this morning.
Authorites say the dogs also bit the woman's grown son in his neck. He's been treated at the scene for his injuries.
A family friend rushed over and shot one of the dogs. Both dogs ran away.
Deputies trapped one of the dogs right away and killed it. The second dog ran loose in the neighborhood for at least an hour before deputies caught it and killed it.
The Clay County Sheriff's Office says two red bone pit bulls were involved.
Authorities say the dogs have never attacked people before.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This woman raised these dogs since puppies, and they slept in bed with her every single night.
Every damn one of them ought to be slaughtered as far as I'm concerned. I'm getting tired of hearing about this every damn week, something needs to be done.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MIDDLEBURG, FL -- Two pit bulls killed their owner in Middleburg Tuesday morning.
The incident happened at a home on Cosmos Road, which is south east of County Road 218 and Hibiscus Avenue.
The victim is identified as 42-year-old Tina Marie Canterbury. The dogs turned on her when she took out the trash this morning.
Authorites say the dogs also bit the woman's grown son in his neck. He's been treated at the scene for his injuries.
A family friend rushed over and shot one of the dogs. Both dogs ran away.
Deputies trapped one of the dogs right away and killed it. The second dog ran loose in the neighborhood for at least an hour before deputies caught it and killed it.
The Clay County Sheriff's Office says two red bone pit bulls were involved.
Authorities say the dogs have never attacked people before.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This woman raised these dogs since puppies, and they slept in bed with her every single night.
Every damn one of them ought to be slaughtered as far as I'm concerned. I'm getting tired of hearing about this every damn week, something needs to be done.
Comments
Suggesting the genocide of an entire species of animal is more of a troll then pointing out that they were bred this way and it isn't their fault.
Pitbulls are more dangerous then normal dogs, they are not by genetics gentle. This is not to say they can't be changed, but it is true.
You inbreed humans you have major issues, same with dogs. Wipe 'em all off the face of the earth I say. <img src="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
But people still do, obv.
But people still do, obv.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow, finally something good from across the pond. Well two things: no pit bulls and Sonic.
ps raising dogs born to kill from birth isn't going to magically make them walking sacks of wuss. They're still going to snap eventually and kill someone to death.
ps raising dogs born to kill from birth isn't going to magically make them walking sacks of wuss. They're still going to snap eventually and <b>kill someone to death</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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To death?!</i>
To death?!</i><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and then you'll wake up dead!
Pitbulls are not fluffy petty-pets. Only "truckere" get them over here.
you wanna know the hint?
He terrorizes the dogs till they are walking wrecks, shivering, whimpering wrecks, I tell you. That's not respect, that's fear.
A dog can be driven to be dangerous, regardless of breed.
A dog can be raised correctly and never have a violent outburst in it's life, regardless of breed
Some breeds of dog are more aggressive then others, it is much easier to 'incorrectly' raise these dogs.
Pitbulls are a breed that is harder to raise (note: NOT impossible) to be docile.
The fact that they are a difficult breed to handle compounded with the negative correlation between intelligence of a person and their view that quote dangerous unquote animals are cool, leads to dog attacks.
Summary:
Stupid owner with dangerous dog = bad
Good owner with dangerous dog = fine
Mediocre owner with dangerous dog = bad
Very stupid owner with any dog = bad
Stupid owner with good dog = fine
A dog can be driven to be dangerous, regardless of breed.
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Stupid owner with good dog = fine<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Isn't that inconsistent?
Yes, pit bulls are some what more prone to aggression then some other types of dogs, but until I see numbers that show that pit bulls are involved in more attacks per capita then any other breed I refuse to believe that there is anything inherently wrong with them, yes, that would be FACTS, not 'you see it on the news all the time'. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of these things was not true:
1) They were not pit bulls.
2) bobbed tails (can't SEE them getting pissed)
3) There WAS a history of violence. (it is actually rather rare for a dog that has never shown violence before to suddenly attack)
4) Something specific happened to provoke them.
In further checking of the story, looks like they were NOT pit bulls!
Either that or the article is wrong. Redbones are a type of scent hound. Not a terrier. This story has NOTHING to do with pit bulls, or is missing facts! Thus Depot's rant fails it!
Breeding has something to do with it.
Training has MUCH more.
Look up one line
Edit: This is for you thansal
<a href="http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf" target="_blank">Dog attacks by breed over 20 year period</a>
Edit: This is for you thansal
<a href="http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf" target="_blank">Dog attacks by breed over 20 year period</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did take that line into consideration. Since any dog can become violent if not treated properly, stupid people shouldn't have dogs at all. Of course that's much easier to say than to decide on an individual case. No such thing as a "dog-owner's license."
In further checking of the story, looks like they were NOT pit bulls!
Either that or the article is wrong. Redbones are a type of scent hound. Not a terrier. This story has NOTHING to do with pit bulls, or is missing facts! Thus Depot's rant fails it!
Breeding has something to do with it.
Training has MUCH more.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not sure what you base this on, but the ladies son said in the 911 call,
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->"We have two full-blooded red-nosed pits and they just attacked our mom," a second son is heard saying on one of the 911 calls. "We can't get to my mom and my brother just went out there and they attacked him too. They don't need to get out of the ambulance or the dogs will try to get them, too."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The police report also states the sheriff's deputy shot and killed both Pit Bulls.
So, as I said, the story was inaccurate.
Also, lolf, that is exactly the data that I DON'T want.
Number of attacks is pointless, as it does not say anything. The report would have to show attacks per capita., as in 1 attack per 1/10/100/1000 pit bulls. I would also like to see how many of those were first instances of violence (not that that will EVER be available b/c the owner will ALWAYS say that the dog never showed any violent tendencies).
That's just animal cruelty there.
I wanna know who was attacked by the cocker spaniel, and which 2 people got mauled by poodles.
--Scythe--
Number of attacks is pointless, as it does not say anything. The report would have to show attacks per capita., as in 1 attack per 1/10/100/1000 pit bulls. I would also like to see how many of those were first instances of violence (not that that will EVER be available b/c the owner will ALWAYS say that the dog never showed any violent tendencies).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First, it was my link ;p
Second: that is one hell of a nitpick, look at the numbers. Pitbulls make up 50% of the total dog attacks. 50%!! That's ONE breed by itself! The per capita statistics shouldn't even be neccessary, just look! Even if there were 50x as many pitbulls in circulation as any other dog (which is just an outlandish claim) they would still be more dangerous then any other breed (aside from rottweilers). Or, to respond to your other complaint: if each pitbull was responsible for 4 attacks (pretty ridiculous, I think the rule is 3 attacks and you have to put it down) they are EVEN THEN higher then any other breed in terms of attack.
edit: and here's a link to give you an idea, top 10 most popular breeds (note the <i>complete absence</i> of the pitbull).
<a href="http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&cat=2041&articleid=3468" target="_blank">Most popular breeds</a>
Poodles are BIG farken dogs.
And do a google for Cocker Rage.
<!--quoteo(post=1653840:date=Oct 3 2007, 05:56 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Oct 3 2007, 05:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1653840"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's best if you research multiple sources before stating a story is false or inaccurate though. It's also best if you can understand the southern dialect. I know it's difficult for New Yorkers, because I sure as hell can't understand THEM half the time. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was at work, and thus didn't watch the video (didn't even know there was a video), that and I don't feel like sitting through it, but you are right, the audio says red nosed pits, where as the article says redbone (redbone being a completely different type of dog)..
<!--quoteo(post=1653842:date=Oct 3 2007, 06:03 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Oct 3 2007, 06:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1653842"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The data is probably also skewed by the fact that the sort of people likely to mistreat dogs are also the kind that want a "big manly dog" like a pit bull or a rhodesian ridgeback. Vicious circle.
--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yup.
The problem isn't dogs, the problem is dumb people.
Look at it this way:
Dogs that attack some one are generally Killed (I hate the term destroyed or any other euphemisms for killing), thus removing them from the breeding population. If Pit Bulls were really such evil tempered dogs, then the population would have either been culled to near extinction, or the trait would have been culled out by now.