Well I pray that 2.1 isn't going to ruin the Kharaa side. I never play on the beta servers becasue I don't care for alot of the changes. I really hope that Flayra has listened to the community and made the changes that we have voiced alot! I have faith so I don't worry too much, but I still am not looking forward to 2.1 I have grown a custom to 2.0 and it took a long time over 1.4 so I don't want to see 2.1 just YET! Ohh well... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yes the onos, it plays all roles except gettin JPers.
It destroys bases in seconds, it clears grps of LMG/LA marines in no time. really there is no better hit n run than onos, A grp of HA are on the way to some where. with celerity u pop around the corner devour one and run away. if thats not hit n run WTH is it, i mean it is actualy just one hit and run.
If u want to harass marines u just go lerk, plus lerk kills em easy with spikes and supports other aliens.
One thing i dont really get is the main disadvantage to onos for non-jp marines is he moves slow but he simply spends 2 res and that is gone. and mc is 90% of the time first chamber now.
Lets stick with CD instead <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's right [Edit: meaning Speed 2 Dave is right. GG quoting the wrong person...] . Go email tech support if you don't deserve the ban. I've heard of several repealed bans recently. I'll be glad once VAC gets introduced. I like CD, but organized play seems to favor not using it, so I'm looking forward to playing with any cheat protection that I can get. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I am also banned and dont why. I tryed e-mailing them 12 time but not reply and if you try posting on the fourms they call me a cheating F**K.
<!--QuoteBegin--Monkeybonk+Aug 24 2003, 09:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Monkeybonk @ Aug 24 2003, 09:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--elchinesetourist+Aug 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (elchinesetourist @ Aug 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, a good fade will always be able to own lights. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Against lights that can't shoot? Guess how many LEVEL 0 HMG bullets it takes to kill a fade.
40? Lower... 35? Lower... 25? Lower... ah 18. That's what? Less then one second of firing time?
I rest my case.
With level 3 HMGs it's 14. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> monkey, you made good arguments in the other thread, but you reveal your ignorance too much.
You are also assuming that you are the godly elite one. This is not the case.
Furthermore, I, too, have pwnt marine teams at their bases and then won the game.
<!--QuoteBegin--Raist666+Aug 25 2003, 10:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raist666 @ Aug 25 2003, 10:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oNe thinks that comes me in mind by all the fade bla bla <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
2.0 was supposed to be more noob friendly. Isnt it paradox to make the Fade only good for skilled players <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I mean the Fade now is definitly not noob friendly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Aliens are supposed to take skill to play, this is flayra's intent.
<!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Aug 25 2003, 01:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Aug 25 2003, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well I pray that 2.1 isn't going to ruin the Kharaa side. I never play on the beta servers becasue I don't care for alot of the changes. I really hope that Flayra has listened to the community and made the changes that we have voiced alot! I have faith so I don't worry too much, but I still am not looking forward to 2.1 I have grown a custom to 2.0 and it took a long time over 1.4 so I don't want to see 2.1 just YET! Ohh well... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats the problem. Flayra HAS listened to the community.... The whiney part that is....
For the love of God, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not give into their sissy crying demands of nerfing Aliens. Its NOT whats needed. Minor fixes to the economic system will suffice!
I, for one, welcome these changes in the name of balance. Yey 2.1! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hm, you mean you welcome the changes to put it back to 1.4 *sigh*
should we... switch fade and lerk in the alien order? 9_9 maybe then people wouldnt complain about spore / umbra abuse or about fade res costs (he'd be a more heavily armored skulk in reality then, wouldnt he?). that plus only a 20 res start for aliens would make for an interesting server to play in. despite the nerfs to aliens (said while ignoring the evil walking-while-cloaked thing hehe) and the lowering of costs for marines i'm still looking forward to any and all changes the NS team thinks highly enough of to build a beta server for.
i do remember someone suggesting there be a difference in costs for pub and tourny play... wonder if that'd better balance noob commanders and selfish aliens vs the clan play? sounds like two different worlds from the fade debate perspective.
I dont understand why people come and say they got banned by VAC... i get "banned" by VAC lots of times, but it only disconnects me saying i got "corrupted memory bla bla" (<-- It's a warning to you that you might wanna fix it), i never really get banned... You can be detected a couple of times before it actaully bans you, and if you get banned, it's either cause you cheat or had HL Amp running when VAC detected it as a cheat...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Posted on Aug 25 2003, 05:42 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (Raist666 @ Aug 25 2003, 10:57 AM) oNe thinks that comes me in mind by all the fade bla bla
2.0 was supposed to be more noob friendly. Isnt it paradox to make the Fade only good for skilled players I mean the Fade now is definitly not noob friendly.
Aliens are supposed to take skill to play, this is flayra's intent. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And here lies the key to all Problems. Flayra said that he would like to see more players at ns. So he want to make it easier to handel (Because If it is simple more people play it. If it is to difficult only a small number play it). But you as Veteran and decent clangamer want to make it more diffcult and challenging so it only can be used by skilled players. I am also an clangamer and like it more difficult but this limits the people who wants to play NS because its so complex. For me it is ok because it means less noobs on server but i think flayra would enjoy if his game reaches more player. The main Problem is that the Playtesters and Veterans are all Clanplayers (most of them) and they have only a great focus on Clanmatches. With this focus i must say you did a great job (2.0) but on pubs (which is played most) its another thing. I think the best would be that flayra don´t listen to anybody anymore and make his own way because it is his own Game.
(Sorry for my bad Englisch i hope you get the point <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->)
FLAY DONT LISTEN TO ANYONE DO YOUR OWN THING <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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I never play on the beta servers becasue I don't care for alot of the changes.
I really hope that Flayra has listened to the community and made the changes that we have voiced alot!
I have faith so I don't worry too much, but I still am not looking forward to 2.1
I have grown a custom to 2.0 and it took a long time over 1.4 so I don't want to see 2.1 just YET! Ohh well... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
It destroys bases in seconds, it clears grps of LMG/LA marines in no time. really there is no better hit n run than onos, A grp of HA are on the way to some where. with celerity u pop around the corner devour one and run away. if thats not hit n run WTH is it, i mean it is actualy just one hit and run.
If u want to harass marines u just go lerk, plus lerk kills em easy with spikes and supports other aliens.
One thing i dont really get is the main disadvantage to onos for non-jp marines is he moves slow but he simply spends 2 res and that is gone. and mc is 90% of the time first chamber now.
Damn I HATE IT!!! I just got banned from DOD 1 because of it, I can't play on some servers until 2008!!
R%&"&" <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
Lets stick with CD instead <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's right [Edit: meaning Speed 2 Dave is right. GG quoting the wrong person...] . Go email tech support if you don't deserve the ban. I've heard of several repealed bans recently. I'll be glad once VAC gets introduced. I like CD, but organized play seems to favor not using it, so I'm looking forward to playing with any cheat protection that I can get. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am also banned and dont why. I tryed e-mailing them 12 time but not reply and if you try posting on the fourms they call me a cheating F**K.
Against lights that can't shoot? Guess how many LEVEL 0 HMG bullets it takes to kill a fade.
40? Lower... 35? Lower... 25? Lower... ah 18. That's what? Less then one second of firing time?
I rest my case.
With level 3 HMGs it's 14. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
monkey, you made good arguments in the other thread, but you reveal your ignorance too much.
You are also assuming that you are the godly elite one. This is not the case.
Furthermore, I, too, have pwnt marine teams at their bases and then won the game.
2.0 was supposed to be more noob friendly.
Isnt it paradox to make the Fade only good for skilled players <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I mean the Fade now is definitly not noob friendly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aliens are supposed to take skill to play, this is flayra's intent.
I never play on the beta servers becasue I don't care for alot of the changes.
I really hope that Flayra has listened to the community and made the changes that we have voiced alot!
I have faith so I don't worry too much, but I still am not looking forward to 2.1
I have grown a custom to 2.0 and it took a long time over 1.4 so I don't want to see 2.1 just YET! Ohh well... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats the problem. Flayra HAS listened to the community.... The whiney part that is....
For the love of God, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not give into their sissy crying demands of nerfing Aliens. Its NOT whats needed. Minor fixes to the economic system will suffice!
No ... more ... fade ...
I, for one, welcome these changes in the name of balance. Yey 2.1! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hm, you mean you welcome the changes to put it back to 1.4 *sigh*
i do remember someone suggesting there be a difference in costs for pub and tourny play... wonder if that'd better balance noob commanders and selfish aliens vs the clan play? sounds like two different worlds from the fade debate perspective.
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QUOTE (Raist666 @ Aug 25 2003, 10:57 AM)
oNe thinks that comes me in mind by all the fade bla bla
2.0 was supposed to be more noob friendly.
Isnt it paradox to make the Fade only good for skilled players
I mean the Fade now is definitly not noob friendly.
Aliens are supposed to take skill to play, this is flayra's intent. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And here lies the key to all Problems. Flayra said that he would like to see more players at ns. So he want to make it easier to handel (Because If it is simple more people play it. If it is to difficult only a small number play it). But you as Veteran and decent clangamer want to make it more diffcult and challenging so it only can be used by skilled players. I am also an clangamer and like it more difficult but this limits the people who wants to play NS because its so complex. For me it is ok because it means less noobs on server but i think flayra would enjoy if his game reaches more player. The main Problem is that the Playtesters and Veterans are all Clanplayers (most of them) and they have only a great focus on Clanmatches. With this focus i must say you did a great job (2.0) but on pubs (which is played most) its another thing. I think the best would be that flayra don´t listen to anybody anymore and make his own way because it is his own Game.
(Sorry for my bad Englisch i hope you get the point <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->)
FLAY DONT LISTEN TO ANYONE DO YOUR OWN THING <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->