In the end the names that are selected are going to be loved by some and jeered by others.
The majority wins in the situation like this I'm afraid.
I like skitter's for the level 1 though. It somehow reminds me of the screamers in Tremors. Which is a good thing. Now you gotta make the sounds when they walk more 'skitter' like <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
Names starting with S seems to be the soup of the day lol
Ok, here's an idea. Currently all the alien names are verbs. Let's make them nouns.
<b>Skulker</b> <b>Gorger</b> <b>Lerker</b> (Starcraft anyone? Oh well, it's spelled different and it's a different kind of alien anyways) <b>Fader</b> <b>Onoser?</b> This is the only one that needs changing. Charger? Crusher?
K i've read to page 6 only so if I'm missing a new turn the conversation sorry.
Let me say I'm divided. The levels 3 and 5 seem interesting, the level 2 sounds like a grunt name at least, but the level 1 and 4 are iffy for me. I suppose some of it is from a desire for contiunity and not much change and as such should be dicounted. Part of it seems to just not fit however. I think what we need is for our writer to come up with some good reasons inside the story for why they were named what they're named. Some of these names (mainly Onos) don't sound like the kind of names grunts come up with in the field, and those would be the names that would stick in the TSA IMO.
<!--QuoteBegin--gutterclutch+Aug. 27 2002,11:12--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (gutterclutch @ Aug. 27 2002,11:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>VECK</b> You don't think that's the greatest name ever?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--me&Freemantle--><span id='ME'><center>Freemantle kisses gutterclutch</center></span><!--e-me-->
I feel strongly about the level ones name in particular, as it will be used the most. Vec (or Veck) rolls of the tounge easy, it sounds <u>hard</u>, and it is easy to pick up.
Eh? Is there really a point about debating this - it seems the dev team/PTs think they are fine - however I just hope when I yell out '2 bobs in vent' someone out there knows what im talking about <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--SentrySteve+Aug. 27 2002,17:15--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (SentrySteve @ Aug. 27 2002,17:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->it seems the dev team/PTs think they are fine<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ho ho ho, I'm willing and happy to take up responsibility for almost everything that's been discussed in the PT forums, but the names are an exception.
There was much internal debate, both by the devs (which I've only heard rumors of), and the PTs (which were very well summed up by "bucket of worms"). In the end, Flayra did the only right thing and took the matter in his hands as nobody seemed to agree with anyone else.
It's his game, it's his two invested years, it's his right.
I think the poll is a good thing since everyone can say what they got to say about the names like if you like them or you dont. Im suprised some people chose they didnt like them i will be honest i voted for i love them they are kewl, and we should all be happy that we got the names or this game wouldnt be possible and the ns team did work very hard remember that, so it doesnt really matter what the names are as long as they make a good game. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
Hmm... I think they could use some work. They sound a little... unfitting and... strange.
The Skulk is the only one that really seems right to me. I think more well-known names would be more fitting, like Behemoth, Tank, or something like that.
Are these what the <i>Marines</i> call them or what the Aliens call themselves? If they are what the Aliens call themselves, then they sound a little okay then.
They don't sound to bad but are they ment to be the alien's names for each other or the marine's? An alien saying 'lerk' or 'gorge' just seems a little... well, odd.
IMO the names for the aliens in the field, as it were, will be created by the marines rather than the scientists that give them the offical names. In that sence I think those names seem fine.
Anyway I can't really see a soldier look in his notepad for the name of the 'biggus marinus munchus' when a level 5 is charging at him so he can scream a warning to his teammates. No, he is more likey to make a rather painfull pun <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> . Ha.
well i personally like the names, except for a lil tweaking.. but this is obviously ganna be over looked cuz so many othe rppl have suggestions
1.skulk: i like it at first iwas a little edge but geedos (? that right) examples of "watch the vents for incoming skulks" made it seem much better
2.Gorge: sounds like something with long knife like hands that spears thigns.. i personally dont think it fits a large builder
3.lerk: this one i thought was the oddest, at first hearing this i'd guess it was a level one, i liked someone's suggest (i forgot how, i dont mean any offense) of "imp"
4. fade: eh its good.. but sounds more of a verb than a noun.. maybe something like Shade would work better (thats actaulyl one of my alternate names in CS)
5. Onos, i like it has the feeling of power and magnitude
You can call the level 5 Ultra Fluffy Bunnymeister the Tweenth if it gets the game out any faster. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--TickTock+Aug. 27 2002,19:17--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (TickTock @ Aug. 27 2002,19:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->You can call the level 5 Ultra Fluffy Bunnymeister the Tweenth if it gets the game out any faster. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
*Shudders* No. No, you can't. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
They're all fine, except maybe Fade, it sounds like something out of a cheap arcade game (Shoot all the Ooglies as they pop onscreen! Jumper, Hoppy, Roller and Fade), rather than the high-quality game that this is <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
I especially like Onos, since it isn't taken directly from some word in English. Maybe you could change the lvl2 from Gorge to Gurge?
<!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Aug. 27 2002,17:27--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Aug. 27 2002,17:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's his game, it's his two invested years, it's his right.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I never said it wasent, infact I said it is.
Bah. I'll be the pessimist. I understand where Flayra is coming from as far as "Atmosphere" is concerned, but some of the names just sound wrong. Not like some vulgar "I don't want to be here" marines would make up for the aliens.
We need somthing vulgar, discriminatory, and simple (as in, a marine with a 3 year grammar school record made it up).
I don't like Fade <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Is Bob no more? Or did I miss something? <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Ok, I read ALL of those posts now. I liked Bob! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--JediYoshi+Aug. 27 2002,08:43--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (JediYoshi @ Aug. 27 2002,08:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->As mentioned before, saying the name Bob to someone new would make the aliens sound less professional.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I liked it when I first heard it, but... <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
<span style='color:blue'>give</span> <span style='color:yellow'>the</span> <span style='color:orange'>aliens</span> <span style='color:green'>scientific</span> <span style='color:red'>names!!!!!!!!!!!!</span> <span style='color:orange'>let</span> <span style='color:blue'>us</span> <span style='color:yellow'>give</span> <span style='color:orange'>them</span> <span style='color:green'>the</span> <span style='color:blue'>nicknames...</span> <span style='color:yellow'>power</span> <span style='color:orange'>to</span> <span style='color:green'>the</span> <span style='color:red'>players,</span> <span style='color:blue'>eventually</span> <span style='color:yellow'>terms</span> <span style='color:orange'>that</span> <span style='color:green'>everyone</span> <span style='color:red'>likes</span> <span style='color:blue'>will</span> <span style='color:yellow'>surface</span> <span style='color:orange'>that</span> <span style='color:green'>somehow</span> <span style='color:red'>relate</span> <span style='color:blue'>to</span> <span style='color:orange'>the</span> <span style='color:yellow'>scientific</span> <span style='color:orange'>name,</span> <span style='color:green'>their</span> <span style='color:red'>sounds,</span> <span style='color:blue'>their</span> <span style='color:yellow'>ways</span> <span style='color:orange'>of</span> <span style='color:green'>attack....</span> <span style='color:red'>starcraft</span> <span style='color:blue'>for</span> <span style='color:yellow'>example</span> <span style='color:purple'>mutalisks = muts, zerlings = lings, hyradlisks = hydras, firebats = bats, zealots = lots etc etc.... ppl will make good names if u give them the game with some sort of names that create a structute for them to make a nickname outta, let the ppl fighting the aliens give em the nicknames!!!! its the best way to get it all pretty much agreed upon... just let it happen itself flayra!!!!! now just grab a latin dictionary and get at it....</span>
oh dear, I'm sorry, but I really can't feel much pity for the flaming you're about to receive... to maybe stem some of it off: The community made some nicknames which grew to be hated by all the dev team and much of the community. Many tried making Latin names (myself included) and while they held some interest, they were thought less of since a marine wouldn't call an alien by its Latin name. Which brings us to today and the pt/dev created names.
On a side note, never in your life again post in color just to grab attention to the entire post. Also do not whine to Flayra.
The names are out of context....being is that they have none.....Are those nicknames the marines gave them? Or are they the names the scientists dubbed them? I would prefer a scientific name and then let the people shorten that or name them as they see fit. For me it will always be l1-5 in game.
yay for long tooth gwar is evil and doesnt understand my idea i did the color thing not to grab attention but to see if it could be done, its looks cool... flaming? that wasnt flaming, and alluva a sudden ur acting like ur flayra or the dev team or a pt so shhhhh shhhhhh quiet little one let my idea be heard
heh, hes gonna be Bob to me when it comes out! <!--emo&:bob:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:bob:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:bob:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
the names are <i>ok</i>.. Gorge sounds like some big scary thing thats gonna eat ur intestines while youre alive... not a builder... and i dont like fade...
I think the names are fine why would you want to change them, look at all the crap ns team went through to make this awesome summer release game that takes a lot of smart people to make this game you should be thankful you even got the game.
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I think spyker is a little too damn obvious. I also don't lyke swappyng my I's out for Y's
The majority wins in the situation like this I'm afraid.
I like skitter's for the level 1 though. It somehow reminds me of the screamers in Tremors. Which is a good thing. Now you gotta make the sounds when they walk more 'skitter' like <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
Names starting with S seems to be the soup of the day lol
And lay of my y's! =p
<b>Skulker</b>
<b>Gorger</b>
<b>Lerker</b> (Starcraft anyone? Oh well, it's spelled different and it's a different kind of alien anyways)
<b>Fader</b>
<b>Onoser?</b> This is the only one that needs changing. Charger? Crusher?
btw do any of the aliens have distinctive sounds, that would be somthing to base a marine nickname on
/me fires up imagination, but fails to come up with a good lvl5 nick
Let me say I'm divided. The levels 3 and 5 seem interesting, the level 2 sounds like a grunt name at least, but the level 1 and 4 are iffy for me. I suppose some of it is from a desire for contiunity and not much change and as such should be dicounted. Part of it seems to just not fit however. I think what we need is for our writer to come up with some good reasons inside the story for why they were named what they're named. Some of these names (mainly Onos) don't sound like the kind of names grunts come up with in the field, and those would be the names that would stick in the TSA IMO.
<!--me&Freemantle--><span id='ME'><center>Freemantle kisses gutterclutch</center></span><!--e-me-->
I feel strongly about the level ones name in particular, as it will be used the most. Vec (or Veck) rolls of the tounge easy, it sounds <u>hard</u>, and it is easy to pick up.
I'll end with the idea pimpage now
Ho ho ho, I'm willing and happy to take up responsibility for almost everything that's been discussed in the PT forums, but the names are an exception.
There was much internal debate, both by the devs (which I've only heard rumors of), and the PTs (which were very well summed up by "bucket of worms"). In the end, Flayra did the only right thing and took the matter in his hands as nobody seemed to agree with anyone else.
It's his game, it's his two invested years, it's his right.
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The Skulk is the only one that really seems right to me. I think more well-known names would be more fitting, like Behemoth, Tank, or something like that.
Are these what the <i>Marines</i> call them or what the Aliens call themselves? If they are what the Aliens call themselves, then they sound a little okay then.
lol beat me too it.
IMO the names for the aliens in the field, as it were, will be created by the marines rather than the scientists that give them the offical names. In that sence I think those names seem fine.
Anyway I can't really see a soldier look in his notepad for the name of the 'biggus marinus munchus' when a level 5 is charging at him so he can scream a warning to his teammates. No, he is more likey to make a rather painfull pun <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> . Ha.
1.skulk: i like it at first iwas a little edge but geedos (? that right) examples of "watch the vents for incoming skulks" made it seem much better
2.Gorge: sounds like something with long knife like hands that spears thigns.. i personally dont think it fits a large builder
3.lerk: this one i thought was the oddest, at first hearing this i'd guess it was a level one, i liked someone's suggest (i forgot how, i dont mean any offense) of "imp"
4. fade: eh its good.. but sounds more of a verb than a noun.. maybe something like Shade would work better (thats actaulyl one of my alternate names in CS)
5. Onos, i like it has the feeling of power and magnitude
*Shudders*
No. No, you can't. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
They're all fine, except maybe Fade, it sounds like something out of a cheap arcade game (Shoot all the Ooglies as they pop onscreen! Jumper, Hoppy, Roller and Fade), rather than the high-quality game that this is <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
I especially like Onos, since it isn't taken directly from some word in English. Maybe you could change the lvl2 from Gorge to Gurge?
I never said it wasent, infact I said it is.
We need somthing vulgar, discriminatory, and simple (as in, a marine with a 3 year grammar school record made it up).
EDIT: Is Bob no more? Or did I miss something? <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
EDIT: Ok, I read ALL of those posts now. I liked Bob! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
I liked it when I first heard it, but... <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
<span style='color:blue'>give</span> <span style='color:yellow'>the</span> <span style='color:orange'>aliens</span> <span style='color:green'>scientific</span> <span style='color:red'>names!!!!!!!!!!!!</span>
<span style='color:orange'>let</span> <span style='color:blue'>us</span> <span style='color:yellow'>give</span> <span style='color:orange'>them</span> <span style='color:green'>the</span> <span style='color:blue'>nicknames...</span> <span style='color:yellow'>power</span> <span style='color:orange'>to</span> <span style='color:green'>the</span> <span style='color:red'>players,</span> <span style='color:blue'>eventually</span> <span style='color:yellow'>terms</span> <span style='color:orange'>that</span> <span style='color:green'>everyone</span> <span style='color:red'>likes</span> <span style='color:blue'>will</span> <span style='color:yellow'>surface</span> <span style='color:orange'>that</span> <span style='color:green'>somehow</span> <span style='color:red'>relate</span> <span style='color:blue'>to</span> <span style='color:orange'>the</span> <span style='color:yellow'>scientific</span> <span style='color:orange'>name,</span> <span style='color:green'>their</span> <span style='color:red'>sounds,</span> <span style='color:blue'>their</span> <span style='color:yellow'>ways</span> <span style='color:orange'>of</span> <span style='color:green'>attack....</span> <span style='color:red'>starcraft</span> <span style='color:blue'>for</span> <span style='color:yellow'>example</span> <span style='color:purple'>mutalisks = muts, zerlings = lings, hyradlisks = hydras, firebats = bats, zealots = lots etc etc.... ppl will make good names if u give them the game with some sort of names that create a structute for them to make a nickname outta, let the ppl fighting the aliens give em the nicknames!!!! its the best way to get it all pretty much agreed upon... just let it happen itself flayra!!!!! now just grab a latin dictionary and get at it....</span>
The community made some nicknames which grew to be hated by all the dev team and much of the community. Many tried making Latin names (myself included) and while they held some interest, they were thought less of since a marine wouldn't call an alien by its Latin name. Which brings us to today and the pt/dev created names.
On a side note, never in your life again post in color just to grab attention to the entire post. Also do not whine to Flayra.
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the names are <i>ok</i>..
Gorge sounds like some big scary thing thats gonna eat ur intestines while youre alive... not a builder...
and i dont like fade...
the names are pretty cool but in a fight you probly wont have the time to type much more than lvl 1,2,3,4,5 or just L 1,2,3,4,5
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