QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+May 15 2004, 03:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ May 15 2004, 03:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+May 15 2004, 05:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ May 15 2004, 05:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm lets see, well a jarring sense of realism <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Half-Life doesn't even have dynamic lighting. You were getting 'realism' from where?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->gritty storyline (Rather than just islands)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There was a storyline to FarCry (and since you don't even sound like you've played it, I won't spoil it for you). It wasn't complex or very 'unique' but considering the nature and setup of the game, it was actually perfect. A complex storyline would've ruined the 'Die Hard' feeling of the game. A simplier storyline would've made it just another 'Doom'.
Maybe a PREFERED atmosphere, but I've seen billions of 'run around in the post-apocalyptipc city and shoot things' games, but I've only seen two games set in a jungle, and walking up to a dock and seeing minnows flee from my presence pretty much took it for me.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->better levels (Apparently it is nigh on impossible to create anything other than an island in Far Cry)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, you definately haven't played FarCry. It is easilly possible to create indoor levels of complexity in FarCry, and not only that, but FarCry is the only game to have a complete rendering engine capable of rendering roughly 2km+ (In real-life distances) of completely terrain and complex geometry. Everything I've seen in Half-Life that involved long distances was either low-poly, or used clever 'vis-blockers'. Look at the 'dried up lake' for instance. The majority of outdoor levels seems to rely on curves around mountains so you can't see everything.
The Manipulator is, in my opinion, actually pretty damn stupid. Really, if I could have a ten pound object capable of ripping a radiator out of the wall and sending it flying down a city block, what stops me from building a sixty-thousand ton one and ripping the earth in half, or sending the moon flying into mars?
Oh and the most important thing you managed to miss:
FarCry wasn't delayed a year, now, was it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> EEK- if you didn't like games that were delayed a year, then let me ask you: Why do you like Half-Life 1?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hate to sound like an idiot, but who is Breen, and where did you get information on him? I know that he's the guy on the monitors, but I've heard numerous references to him as being a character in HL1. Can someone clarify this for me? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+May 15 2004, 05:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ May 15 2004, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate to sound like an idiot, but who is Breen, and where did you get information on him? I know that he's the guy on the monitors, but I've heard numerous references to him as being a character in HL1. Can someone clarify this for me? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I am not exactly sure how they came across the name "Breen", however, I believe he is the G-Man's supervisor or something. At the end, the G-Man says something similar to this:
"The borderworld, 'Xen', is in our control, for the time being, thanks to you. Quite a nasty piece of work you've managed over there. I am impressed. That's why I'm here, Mr. Freeman. I have recommended your services to my ehh... uh... employers. And they have authorized me to offer you a job. They agree with me that you have limitless potential."
Damn, I want to meet the person who does the G-Man's voice. It's like he doesn't even notice the periods are there, and just keeps talking. It's another Hugo Weaving.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In all seriousness...who thought any of the scientist in HL1 had real names?
Basically they all look like psuedo-Einsteins...I haven't seen one HL2 scientist that looks like that . They could say Dr. Humazagrubble was the resident physics department supervisor, and no one would have evidence for or against it<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+May 15 2004, 08:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ May 15 2004, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate to sound like an idiot, but who is Breen, and where did you get information on him? I know that he's the guy on the monitors, but I've heard numerous references to him as being a character in HL1. Can someone clarify this for me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Breen was the Black Mesa administrator in HL1. Basically, the GMan was his puppet.
<a href='http://www.planethalflife.com' target='_blank'>PHL</a> Search around there for a sec. They've got the whole thing transcribed as I understand it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 15 2004, 10:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 15 2004, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can anyone link me to an HL1 story synopsis? I won't be able to beat it...not enough patience. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Cheats were made for people like you. I say you go to gamefaqs or something to get godmode cheat and what not. Actually, while youre there, read the faqs. They are generally good summaries of a game's plot.
*note: not an insult. This is actually how I view cheats built into games.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Breen was the Black Mesa administrator in HL1. Basically, the GMan was his puppet. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cept, this was not in the original HL1 storyline. It's a spoiler from the HL2 storyline from people who stole the source code/content.
<!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 15 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 15 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can anyone link me to an HL1 story synopsis? I won't be able to beat it...not enough patience. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's a quickie version. I won't bother to mark spoiler tags because well, its not that big of a deal, and if you haven't bothered to beat HL in the past 5 years you aren't going to anyway.
- Gordon puts material in big machine thing causing Resonance Cascade which makes Aliens appear - Dying scientists tell Gordon to go to the surface for help, gordon goes - Military is there to kill every living thing, alien and human, to cover it all up. - Military shoots at Gordon. Big mistake for the military. - Gordon gets captured and 2 guys who watched too much Star Wars throw him in a garbage disposal thingy w/ 2 crushing walls. Gordon escapes (obviously). - Scientists tell Gordon to get to Lambda lab as they are a lot smarter than he is and will know how to fix the problem - Gordon arrives at Lambda lab, they send him to Xen - Gordon jumps on a lot of stupid floating platforms in what are regarded as the most frustrating jumping puzzles in any game ever. - Gordon fights a Momma headcrab and wins by shooting it repeatedly in the sack. Very freudian. - Gordon fights a gigantic floating baby whose head opens up and he shoots fireballs out of it. I'm not making that up. - Game ends w/ Gordon on the tram from the beginning, except now like travelling through dimensions in hyperspace or something. G-Man talks for the first time, and offers him to either work for him or die. Player gets to choose ending. - Player screams "WHAT THE ****!??!?" really loudly after finding out such a great game with such a great story has one of the worst damned endings in any video game ever.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 15 2004, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 15 2004, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 15 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 15 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can anyone link me to an HL1 story synopsis? I won't be able to beat it...not enough patience. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's a quickie version. I won't bother to mark spoiler tags because well, its not that big of a deal, and if you haven't bothered to beat HL in the past 5 years you aren't going to anyway.
- Gordon puts material in big machine thing causing Resonance Cascade which makes Aliens appear - Dying scientists tell Gordon to go to the surface for help, gordon goes - Military is there to kill every living thing, alien and human, to cover it all up. - Military shoots at Gordon. Big mistake for the military. - Gordon gets captured and 2 guys who watched too much Star Wars throw him in a garbage disposal thingy w/ 2 crushing walls. Gordon escapes (obviously). - Scientists tell Gordon to get to Lambda lab as they are a lot smarter than he is and will know how to fix the problem - Gordon arrives at Lambda lab, they send him to Xen - Gordon jumps on a lot of stupid floating platforms in what are regarded as the most frustrating jumping puzzles in any game ever. - Gordon fights a Momma headcrab and wins by shooting it repeatedly in the sack. Very freudian. - Gordon fights a gigantic floating baby whose head opens up and he shoots fireballs out of it. I'm not making that up. - Game ends w/ Gordon on the tram from the beginning, except now like travelling through dimensions in hyperspace or something. G-Man talks for the first time, and offers him to either work for him or die. Player gets to choose ending. - Player screams "WHAT THE ****!??!?" really loudly after finding out such a great game with such a great story has one of the worst damned endings in any video game ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You forgot the most important part where you have to solve the mystery of who hid Walter's glasses again.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm assuming they don't want to spoil a Strider death, since that seems to be rare.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually in one of the videos of HL2 from E3 I have one of the Striders is killed. It kinda flops to the ground a writhes for a bit. Looks rather cool.
And Doom, I rather liked the HL1 ending. It was cryptic and interesting and kept the player guessing about much of what occured at Black Mesa, thus setting up the storyline to continue in Opposing Forces and HL2. How would you have ended HL1 Doom; I'm just curious.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, for starters I would have had an ending. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well it would seem to me at least that the point was not to end the storyline; questions were left unanswered for a reason, rather like at the end of The Matrix or Kill Bill the viewer didn't understand everything. Other games like Starcraft also left questions open (End of Starcraft what's kerrigan going to be doing, end of Brood Wars, who does Duran work for and what's this new threat that is approaching) for the same reason: to connect the original game or movie to the next installment and draw the player or viewer further into the storyline (and as a side effect, give them greater incentive to buy the next product <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Sure, if Valve were making Half Life 1 as a standalone product with no sequels or add-ons, the end game would have been very dissapointing, rather like End of Evangion (despite being the final part of the series, it left a heap of questions unanswered). But as it seems their intent was to make at the very least HL2 from the beginning, it makes sense to have a continuous storyline that connects the two products and makes the player feel like the two games are part of one, greater, unfolding plot.
BizZy_9mm_MessiahOld School MemberJoin Date: 2003-07-25Member: 18411Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+May 16 2004, 12:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ May 16 2004, 12:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BizZy | 9mm Messiah+May 16 2004, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BizZy | 9mm Messiah @ May 16 2004, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is HL2 going to have a Multiplayer System built into it? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Of course! Silly question. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just wondering because in the movie I didn't see an option for joining or creating a multiplayer game. As silly as the question is Forrester, deep down inside you still love me, I know you do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Ryo-Ohki+May 16 2004, 12:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ May 16 2004, 12:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> questions were left unanswered for a reason, rather like at the end of The Matrix or Kill Bill the viewer didn't understand everything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah but you also don't have to wait 4 years for kill bill part 2. :P
And please don't jinx Half-Life by putting it in the same sentance as The Matrix :o
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+May 15 2004, 09:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ May 15 2004, 09:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how much HD space it'll take. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ALL of it.
BizZy_9mm_MessiahOld School MemberJoin Date: 2003-07-25Member: 18411Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 16 2004, 03:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 16 2004, 03:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ryo-Ohki+May 16 2004, 12:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ May 16 2004, 12:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> questions were left unanswered for a reason, rather like at the end of The Matrix or Kill Bill the viewer didn't understand everything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah but you also don't have to wait 4 years for kill bill part 2. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And please don't jinx Half-Life by putting it in the same sentance as The Matrix :o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LOLLER!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yeah but you also don't have to wait 4 years for kill bill part 2. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And please don't jinx Half-Life by putting it in the same sentance as The Matrix :o<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anticipation can be a nice thing; I for one am dying to learn more about the storyline of HL2. If the ending to HL1 had summed everything up neatly, I honestly wouldn't have the same level of excitement towards HL2. Similarly, if Blizzard ever gets around the making Starcraft 2 I will buy it in an instant because I love the Starcraft storyline to death (En Taro Tassadar!), and I want to know the answers to questions left open at the end of Brood Wars.
I stand by what I said earlier: if Valva had never intended to make a sequal, the HL1 ending would have been crap. However if you take the ending of HL1 as part of a greater storyline involving additional installments, I find nothing wrong with it and think it was a great way to end the first game.
Also, I probably shouldn't have mentioned The Matrix; I was actually happier before I saw the sequals than after. Although the dock fight was cool.
There is gonna be secret rooms in half-life 2? well i know some in the original one.
And half-life was really not 100 % bug free game, cuz on every level i saw some small bugs like a wrong texture aligment on a pipe, some textures was wrong on a wall.. And sometimes some problems with the sounds. I dunno, but i hopes half-life 2 will make my pc little better. My pc is hungry and wants half-life 2 headcrabs.
One question :
Who is FatherGregory on the E3 2004 tech video? He is a little bit weird. And fat. A copy of Gabe?
<!--QuoteBegin-Align+May 16 2004, 06:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ May 16 2004, 06:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Father Gregory boobytrapped parts of City 17, and he is on your side. We think. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> He talks about being in "Ravenholm". Suppose Gordon leaves City 17 to go to this Ravenholm? Maybe it's just part of City 17? (He said something like "I suspect you wish to remain in Ravenholm, so I will show you to the mines". I got the spelling off of the sign in the last part of the demo. The one he picks up and tosses with the Manipulator.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 15 2004, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 15 2004, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He was the one that funded the BMRF. Some say he was the one that arranged to have the wrong crystal be put into the resonance cascade.
We'll see if the 2nd is true soon. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> He was the administrator of Black Mesa, the head honcho. And now he's the administrator of City 17. No coincedence, surely.
EDIT: And I got this info. from a recent Doug Lombardi interview, not the leak.
Also, Valve have mentioned that you travel out of City 17 into the surrounding towns, fishing villages and docks, and Ravenholm will probably lie around there somewhere.
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Half-Life doesn't even have dynamic lighting. You were getting 'realism' from where?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->gritty storyline (Rather than just islands)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There was a storyline to FarCry (and since you don't even sound like you've played it, I won't spoil it for you). It wasn't complex or very 'unique' but considering the nature and setup of the game, it was actually perfect. A complex storyline would've ruined the 'Die Hard' feeling of the game. A simplier storyline would've made it just another 'Doom'.
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I don't see where this is coming from...
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Atmosphere<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe a PREFERED atmosphere, but I've seen billions of 'run around in the post-apocalyptipc city and shoot things' games, but I've only seen two games set in a jungle, and walking up to a dock and seeing minnows flee from my presence pretty much took it for me.
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Yes, you definately haven't played FarCry. It is easilly possible to create indoor levels of complexity in FarCry, and not only that, but FarCry is the only game to have a complete rendering engine capable of rendering roughly 2km+ (In real-life distances) of completely terrain and complex geometry. Everything I've seen in Half-Life that involved long distances was either low-poly, or used clever 'vis-blockers'. Look at the 'dried up lake' for instance. The majority of outdoor levels seems to rely on curves around mountains so you can't see everything.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Powerful scripting system<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What?
<span style='color:white'>You <i>do</i> know that you have already been suspended once, do you?</span>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Manipulator<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Manipulator is, in my opinion, actually pretty damn stupid. Really, if I could have a ten pound object capable of ripping a radiator out of the wall and sending it flying down a city block, what stops me from building a sixty-thousand ton one and ripping the earth in half, or sending the moon flying into mars?
Oh and the most important thing you managed to miss:
FarCry wasn't delayed a year, now, was it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
EEK- if you didn't like games that were delayed a year, then let me ask you: Why do you like Half-Life 1?
It's a spoiler: you really want to know?
We'll see if the 2nd is true soon.
I am not exactly sure how they came across the name "Breen", however, I believe he is the G-Man's supervisor or something. At the end, the G-Man says something similar to this:
"The borderworld, 'Xen', is in our control, for the time being, thanks to you. Quite a nasty piece of work you've managed over there. I am impressed. That's why I'm here, Mr. Freeman. I have recommended your services to my ehh... uh... employers. And they have authorized me to offer you a job. They agree with me that you have limitless potential."
Damn, I want to meet the person who does the G-Man's voice. It's like he doesn't even notice the periods are there, and just keeps talking. It's another Hugo Weaving.
Basically they all look like psuedo-Einsteins...I haven't seen one HL2 scientist that looks like that . They could say Dr. Humazagrubble was the resident physics department supervisor, and no one would have evidence for or against it<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There was Walter!
Breen was the Black Mesa administrator in HL1. Basically, the GMan was his puppet.
Did you get CS/DOD Retail or something?
I've had HL since the GOTY came out, but only for mods...I suck at games, so probably coudln't beat HL Singleplayer.
Cheats were made for people like you. I say you go to gamefaqs or something to get godmode cheat and what not. Actually, while youre there, read the faqs. They are generally good summaries of a game's plot.
*note: not an insult. This is actually how I view cheats built into games.
Cept, this was not in the original HL1 storyline. It's a spoiler from the HL2 storyline from people who stole the source code/content.
Here's a quickie version. I won't bother to mark spoiler tags because well, its not that big of a deal, and if you haven't bothered to beat HL in the past 5 years you aren't going to anyway.
- Gordon puts material in big machine thing causing Resonance Cascade which makes Aliens appear
- Dying scientists tell Gordon to go to the surface for help, gordon goes
- Military is there to kill every living thing, alien and human, to cover it all up.
- Military shoots at Gordon. Big mistake for the military.
- Gordon gets captured and 2 guys who watched too much Star Wars throw him in a garbage disposal thingy w/ 2 crushing walls. Gordon escapes (obviously).
- Scientists tell Gordon to get to Lambda lab as they are a lot smarter than he is and will know how to fix the problem
- Gordon arrives at Lambda lab, they send him to Xen
- Gordon jumps on a lot of stupid floating platforms in what are regarded as the most frustrating jumping puzzles in any game ever.
- Gordon fights a Momma headcrab and wins by shooting it repeatedly in the sack. Very freudian.
- Gordon fights a gigantic floating baby whose head opens up and he shoots fireballs out of it. I'm not making that up.
- Game ends w/ Gordon on the tram from the beginning, except now like travelling through dimensions in hyperspace or something. G-Man talks for the first time, and offers him to either work for him or die. Player gets to choose ending.
- Player screams "WHAT THE ****!??!?" really loudly after finding out such a great game with such a great story has one of the worst damned endings in any video game ever.
Here's a quickie version. I won't bother to mark spoiler tags because well, its not that big of a deal, and if you haven't bothered to beat HL in the past 5 years you aren't going to anyway.
- Gordon puts material in big machine thing causing Resonance Cascade which makes Aliens appear
- Dying scientists tell Gordon to go to the surface for help, gordon goes
- Military is there to kill every living thing, alien and human, to cover it all up.
- Military shoots at Gordon. Big mistake for the military.
- Gordon gets captured and 2 guys who watched too much Star Wars throw him in a garbage disposal thingy w/ 2 crushing walls. Gordon escapes (obviously).
- Scientists tell Gordon to get to Lambda lab as they are a lot smarter than he is and will know how to fix the problem
- Gordon arrives at Lambda lab, they send him to Xen
- Gordon jumps on a lot of stupid floating platforms in what are regarded as the most frustrating jumping puzzles in any game ever.
- Gordon fights a Momma headcrab and wins by shooting it repeatedly in the sack. Very freudian.
- Gordon fights a gigantic floating baby whose head opens up and he shoots fireballs out of it. I'm not making that up.
- Game ends w/ Gordon on the tram from the beginning, except now like travelling through dimensions in hyperspace or something. G-Man talks for the first time, and offers him to either work for him or die. Player gets to choose ending.
- Player screams "WHAT THE ****!??!?" really loudly after finding out such a great game with such a great story has one of the worst damned endings in any video game ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You forgot the most important part where you have to solve the mystery of who hid Walter's glasses again.
"Weren't you supposed to be in the test chamber an hour ago?"
Actually in one of the videos of HL2 from E3 I have one of the Striders is killed. It kinda flops to the ground a writhes for a bit. Looks rather cool.
And Doom, I rather liked the HL1 ending. It was cryptic and interesting and kept the player guessing about much of what occured at Black Mesa, thus setting up the storyline to continue in Opposing Forces and HL2. How would you have ended HL1 Doom; I'm just curious.
After that, I'd flesh out the details. ;)
Of course! Silly question. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well it would seem to me at least that the point was not to end the storyline; questions were left unanswered for a reason, rather like at the end of The Matrix or Kill Bill the viewer didn't understand everything. Other games like Starcraft also left questions open (End of Starcraft what's kerrigan going to be doing, end of Brood Wars, who does Duran work for and what's this new threat that is approaching) for the same reason: to connect the original game or movie to the next installment and draw the player or viewer further into the storyline (and as a side effect, give them greater incentive to buy the next product <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Sure, if Valve were making Half Life 1 as a standalone product with no sequels or add-ons, the end game would have been very dissapointing, rather like End of Evangion (despite being the final part of the series, it left a heap of questions unanswered). But as it seems their intent was to make at the very least HL2 from the beginning, it makes sense to have a continuous storyline that connects the two products and makes the player feel like the two games are part of one, greater, unfolding plot.
Of course! Silly question. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just wondering because in the movie I didn't see an option for joining or creating a multiplayer game. As silly as the question is Forrester, deep down inside you still love me, I know you do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yeah but you also don't have to wait 4 years for kill bill part 2. :P
And please don't jinx Half-Life by putting it in the same sentance as The Matrix :o
ALL of it.
Yeah but you also don't have to wait 4 years for kill bill part 2. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And please don't jinx Half-Life by putting it in the same sentance as The Matrix :o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
LOLLER!
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Anticipation can be a nice thing; I for one am dying to learn more about the storyline of HL2. If the ending to HL1 had summed everything up neatly, I honestly wouldn't have the same level of excitement towards HL2. Similarly, if Blizzard ever gets around the making Starcraft 2 I will buy it in an instant because I love the Starcraft storyline to death (En Taro Tassadar!), and I want to know the answers to questions left open at the end of Brood Wars.
I stand by what I said earlier: if Valva had never intended to make a sequal, the HL1 ending would have been crap. However if you take the ending of HL1 as part of a greater storyline involving additional installments, I find nothing wrong with it and think it was a great way to end the first game.
Also, I probably shouldn't have mentioned The Matrix; I was actually happier before I saw the sequals than after. Although the dock fight was cool.
And half-life was really not 100 % bug free game, cuz on every level i saw some small bugs like a wrong texture aligment on a pipe, some textures was wrong on a wall..
And sometimes some problems with the sounds. I dunno, but i hopes half-life 2 will make my pc little better. My pc is hungry and wants half-life 2 headcrabs.
One question :
Who is FatherGregory on the E3 2004 tech video? He is a little bit weird. And fat.
A copy of Gabe?
He talks about being in "Ravenholm". Suppose Gordon leaves City 17 to go to this Ravenholm? Maybe it's just part of City 17? (He said something like "I suspect you wish to remain in Ravenholm, so I will show you to the mines". I got the spelling off of the sign in the last part of the demo. The one he picks up and tosses with the Manipulator.)
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He was the administrator of Black Mesa, the head honcho. And now he's the administrator of City 17. No coincedence, surely.
EDIT: And I got this info. from a recent Doug Lombardi interview, not the leak.
Also, Valve have mentioned that you travel out of City 17 into the surrounding towns, fishing villages and docks, and Ravenholm will probably lie around there somewhere.