<!--QuoteBegin-Align+Aug 7 2004, 09:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Aug 7 2004, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How is it 6 year old if it was only finished last year? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ... Half-life's engine was not finished last year, my friend.
<!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Aug 5 2004, 11:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 5 2004, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mmm. Models that don't look like they are made of polygons.
Don't get me wrong. Doom 3 is the prettiest game I've seen to date. But all the characters look like they are made out of polys. Seriously, they could have taken some of the detail out of the hands to make it so the heads don't look like 10 sided dice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, if only they where supposed to look like kryten from Red Dwarf it would be all peachy.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Aug 7 2004, 01:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Aug 7 2004, 01:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Aug 5 2004, 11:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 5 2004, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Mmm. Models that don't look like they are made of polygons.
Don't get me wrong. Doom 3 is the prettiest game I've seen to date. But all the characters look like they are made out of polys. Seriously, they could have taken some of the detail out of the hands to make it so the heads don't look like 10 sided dice. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, if only they where supposed to look like kryten from Red Dwarf it would be all peachy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <span style='color:red'><b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><3</span></b></span>
I bought CZ this afternoon (yeah, yeah - sue me), and included in the box is a HL2 promo CD, featuring a bunch of movies I'd not seen (though you lot probably saw them all - I just couldn't be bothered downloading them over 56k), and I have to say that the graphics do a fantastic job. Sure, they're not mind-blowing, but they do make it feel like you're very much part of the game world - that's all they have to do.
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 7 2004, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 7 2004, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My opinion on Half-Life 2:
The graphics will suck, the single player will be OK, but...
THE MULTIPLAYER MODS WILL OWN EVERYTHING ELSE EVER! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude, the graphics may not be as good as Doom3, but the graphics in those screenshots by NO MEANS suck.
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 7 2004, 11:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 7 2004, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics will suck, the single player will be OK, but...
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If single player in HL2'll be OK, then I'd like your stance on how well DOOM3's single player is >_>
i dont like the fact that the single machine gun on the chopper is firing a million rounds a secconed..... same with the hover craft MG if you saw the video youll know what im talking about
Noone's gonna stop you from rendering yourself useless to attack while driving the hover craft. Just don't bother firing and ignore the bullets going through your armor.
<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 7 2004, 11:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 7 2004, 11:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i dont like the fact that the single machine gun on the chopper is firing a million rounds a secconed..... same with the hover craft MG if you saw the video youll know what im talking about <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's a alien machine gun, remember. Who knows what crazy technology the Combine have. I'm rather partial to it.
<!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Aug 7 2004, 05:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Aug 7 2004, 05:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 7 2004, 11:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 7 2004, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics will suck, the single player will be OK, but...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If single player in HL2'll be OK, then I'd like your stance on how well DOOM3's single player is >_> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I meant OK story-wise - I should've written that. Also, the graphics don't suck on their own, but next to the other next-gen titles like Far Cry and STALKER they do.
I loved Doom 3's gameplay... a refreshing blast from the past. None of that retarded psuedo-realism all the devs like after CS. That's also why I like Halo so much.
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 8 2004, 02:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 8 2004, 02:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I meant OK story-wise - I should've written that. Also, the graphics don't suck on their own, but next to the other next-gen titles like Far Cry and STALKER they do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> From the movies I've seen Stalker shouldn't be grouped with HL2, Doom3, and Far Cry. It is singularly unimpressive by comparison.
<!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 8 2004, 02:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 8 2004, 02:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Aug 7 2004, 05:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Aug 7 2004, 05:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Aug 7 2004, 11:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Aug 7 2004, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics will suck, the single player will be OK, but...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If single player in HL2'll be OK, then I'd like your stance on how well DOOM3's single player is >_> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I meant OK story-wise - I should've written that. Also, the graphics don't suck on their own, but next to the other next-gen titles like Far Cry and STALKER they do.
I loved Doom 3's gameplay... a refreshing blast from the past. None of that retarded psuedo-realism all the devs like after CS. That's also why I like Halo so much. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd take HL2's graphics over Far Cry's any day of the week. Plus I think HL2's story will be <i>slightly</i> more involving and enjoyable that "OK" would seem to suggest.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Aug 7 2004, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Aug 7 2004, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People are saying the Half Life 2 graphics are worse than Doom 3's?
Whatever next! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its fact. They are. DOOM 3's potential hasn't even been SEEN by Human eyes yet. While Ultra Mode *CAN* be achieved when running it on a machine with the dual 6800s with a PIV 3.4 or AMD 64 high end(don't know what model name that is), it CANNOT be achieved with a FPS over 60 without additional programming(being it does not support dual cpus, and it barely supports the dual video cards because of the special thing the 6800 can pull off).
HL2's graphics have already proved themselve inferior to just High Settings on DOOM 3. Really the only thing HL2 has going for it is realistic human models- which won't be a problem once some real human-modelers get to work on DOOM 3. Its funny- harder to do Humans than a monster with 18 eyes, gilled arms and legs, and the such, the whole shebang. Why? Because people get perfectionistic and screw it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 7 2004, 08:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 7 2004, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Aug 7 2004, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Aug 7 2004, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People are saying the Half Life 2 graphics are worse than Doom 3's?
Whatever next! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Its fact. They are. DOOM 3's potential hasn't even been SEEN by Human eyes yet. While Ultra Mode *CAN* be achieved when running it on a machine with the dual 6800s with a PIV 3.4 or AMD 64 high end(don't know what model name that is), it CANNOT be achieved with a FPS over 60 without additional programming(being it does not support dual cpus, and it barely supports the dual video cards because of the special thing the 6800 can pull off).
HL2's graphics have already proved themselve inferior to just High Settings on DOOM 3. Really the only thing HL2 has going for it is realistic human models- which won't be a problem once some real human-modelers get to work on DOOM 3. Its funny- harder to do Humans than a monster with 18 eyes, gilled arms and legs, and the such, the whole shebang. Why? Because people get perfectionistic and screw it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, it's just that we're human ourselves. We see lots of humans. We all have different perceptions of "normal," "beauty," and "realistic." We're used to picking out small features of people, we subconsciously make a judgement of how good somebody looks based on very small proportions, etc.
18 eyed monsters don't exist. We have no real-world equivalent to compare it to.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 7 2004, 09:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 7 2004, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> doom 3 = great game
hl2 = probably going to be a great game
stalker = probably going to be a great game
i got the money to buy all 3 and the hard drive space for all 3 and the time to play all 3
END OF DISCUSSION! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> touche.
and hl2 might have realistic human models, but what it really has is the physics. the physics are going to make it amazing, especially when paired with the AI. hl2 replay value up up up. doom3 replay value not so up up up.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Aug 8 2004, 02:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Aug 8 2004, 02:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Flint Paper+Aug 7 2004, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flint Paper @ Aug 7 2004, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People are saying the Half Life 2 graphics are worse than Doom 3's?
Whatever next! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Its fact. They are. DOOM 3's potential hasn't even been SEEN by Human eyes yet. While Ultra Mode *CAN* be achieved when running it on a machine with the dual 6800s with a PIV 3.4 or AMD 64 high end(don't know what model name that is), it CANNOT be achieved with a FPS over 60 without additional programming(being it does not support dual cpus, and it barely supports the dual video cards because of the special thing the 6800 can pull off).
HL2's graphics have already proved themselve inferior to just High Settings on DOOM 3. Really the only thing HL2 has going for it is realistic human models- which won't be a problem once some real human-modelers get to work on DOOM 3. Its funny- harder to do Humans than a monster with 18 eyes, gilled arms and legs, and the such, the whole shebang. Why? Because people get perfectionistic and screw it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then again, you can set Doom 3's graphics to "Ludicrous" and it's still going to look like plastic.
It's nice, but I'll take the underrated beauty and art style of Half-Life 2, thanks all the same.
Doom 3 didn't take much advantage of physics. I mean sure ragdolls but I was hoping for boxes flying everywhere during combat and you have to litterally sprint into a desk with a laptop ontop just to MOVE THE LAPTOP..
The understated artistic beauty of Half-Life 2 is invisible to me. I want realism, and that generally means power. I didn't think Doom 3 was too shiny, except for a few of the weapon models the environments look just right. I mean, isn't brushed metal supposed to be shiny? And they did a really good job making the hell-creep look wet and sticky.
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... Half-life's engine was not finished last year, my friend.
game built on 6 year old engine=ns
supposed next gen limit pushing masterpiece=hl2
The graphics will suck, the single player will be OK, but...
THE MULTIPLAYER MODS WILL OWN EVERYTHING ELSE EVER!
Don't get me wrong. Doom 3 is the prettiest game I've seen to date. But all the characters look like they are made out of polys. Seriously, they could have taken some of the detail out of the hands to make it so the heads don't look like 10 sided dice. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, if only they where supposed to look like kryten from Red Dwarf it would be all peachy.
Rather than being drawn into a pointless arguement of opinions, I'll reiterate two simple truths:
Doom 3 rocks.
Half-Life 2 <i>will rock</i>.
And for different reasons too. That is all.
Don't get me wrong. Doom 3 is the prettiest game I've seen to date. But all the characters look like they are made out of polys. Seriously, they could have taken some of the detail out of the hands to make it so the heads don't look like 10 sided dice. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, if only they where supposed to look like kryten from Red Dwarf it would be all peachy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:red'><b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><3</span></b></span>
The graphics will suck, the single player will be OK, but...
THE MULTIPLAYER MODS WILL OWN EVERYTHING ELSE EVER! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude, the graphics may not be as good as Doom3, but the graphics in those screenshots by NO MEANS suck.
Whatever next!
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If single player in HL2'll be OK, then I'd like your stance on how well DOOM3's single player is >_>
It's a alien machine gun, remember. Who knows what crazy technology the Combine have. I'm rather partial to it.
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If single player in HL2'll be OK, then I'd like your stance on how well DOOM3's single player is >_> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I meant OK story-wise - I should've written that. Also, the graphics don't suck on their own, but next to the other next-gen titles like Far Cry and STALKER they do.
I loved Doom 3's gameplay... a refreshing blast from the past. None of that retarded psuedo-realism all the devs like after CS. That's also why I like Halo so much.
From the movies I've seen Stalker shouldn't be grouped with HL2, Doom3, and Far Cry. It is singularly unimpressive by comparison.
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If single player in HL2'll be OK, then I'd like your stance on how well DOOM3's single player is >_> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I meant OK story-wise - I should've written that. Also, the graphics don't suck on their own, but next to the other next-gen titles like Far Cry and STALKER they do.
I loved Doom 3's gameplay... a refreshing blast from the past. None of that retarded psuedo-realism all the devs like after CS. That's also why I like Halo so much. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd take HL2's graphics over Far Cry's any day of the week. Plus I think HL2's story will be <i>slightly</i> more involving and enjoyable that "OK" would seem to suggest.
STALKER looks more impressive than all of thehm.
Whatever next! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its fact. They are. DOOM 3's potential hasn't even been SEEN by Human eyes yet. While Ultra Mode *CAN* be achieved when running it on a machine with the dual 6800s with a PIV 3.4 or AMD 64 high end(don't know what model name that is), it CANNOT be achieved with a FPS over 60 without additional programming(being it does not support dual cpus, and it barely supports the dual video cards because of the special thing the 6800 can pull off).
HL2's graphics have already proved themselve inferior to just High Settings on DOOM 3. Really the only thing HL2 has going for it is realistic human models- which won't be a problem once some real human-modelers get to work on DOOM 3. Its funny- harder to do Humans than a monster with 18 eyes, gilled arms and legs, and the such, the whole shebang. Why? Because people get perfectionistic and screw it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hl2 = probably going to be a great game
stalker = probably going to be a great game
i got the money to buy all 3 and the hard drive space for all 3 and the time to play all 3
END OF DISCUSSION!
Whatever next! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its fact. They are. DOOM 3's potential hasn't even been SEEN by Human eyes yet. While Ultra Mode *CAN* be achieved when running it on a machine with the dual 6800s with a PIV 3.4 or AMD 64 high end(don't know what model name that is), it CANNOT be achieved with a FPS over 60 without additional programming(being it does not support dual cpus, and it barely supports the dual video cards because of the special thing the 6800 can pull off).
HL2's graphics have already proved themselve inferior to just High Settings on DOOM 3. Really the only thing HL2 has going for it is realistic human models- which won't be a problem once some real human-modelers get to work on DOOM 3. Its funny- harder to do Humans than a monster with 18 eyes, gilled arms and legs, and the such, the whole shebang. Why? Because people get perfectionistic and screw it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, it's just that we're human ourselves. We see lots of humans. We all have different perceptions of "normal," "beauty," and "realistic." We're used to picking out small features of people, we subconsciously make a judgement of how good somebody looks based on very small proportions, etc.
18 eyed monsters don't exist. We have no real-world equivalent to compare it to.
hl2 = probably going to be a great game
stalker = probably going to be a great game
i got the money to buy all 3 and the hard drive space for all 3 and the time to play all 3
END OF DISCUSSION! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
touche.
and hl2 might have realistic human models, but what it really has is the physics. the physics are going to make it amazing, especially when paired with the AI. hl2 replay value up up up. doom3 replay value not so up up up.
Whatever next! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its fact. They are. DOOM 3's potential hasn't even been SEEN by Human eyes yet. While Ultra Mode *CAN* be achieved when running it on a machine with the dual 6800s with a PIV 3.4 or AMD 64 high end(don't know what model name that is), it CANNOT be achieved with a FPS over 60 without additional programming(being it does not support dual cpus, and it barely supports the dual video cards because of the special thing the 6800 can pull off).
HL2's graphics have already proved themselve inferior to just High Settings on DOOM 3. Really the only thing HL2 has going for it is realistic human models- which won't be a problem once some real human-modelers get to work on DOOM 3. Its funny- harder to do Humans than a monster with 18 eyes, gilled arms and legs, and the such, the whole shebang. Why? Because people get perfectionistic and screw it up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then again, you can set Doom 3's graphics to "Ludicrous" and it's still going to look like plastic.
It's nice, but I'll take the underrated beauty and art style of Half-Life 2, thanks all the same.
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