Ep3 Discussion - The Spoiler Filled Thread

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  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    I am coming to the rescue (all of the wookies in RotS are not chewbacca.)

    Chewbacca was enslaved by The Empire for use as a laborer. He escaped slavery and death with the help of a young officer by the name of Han Solo. A life debt was established, and Chewbacca joined Han in his adventures through the galaxy. Later, 'Chewie' played a significant role in the Rebel victory over the Empire.

    I am the new tycho? (When he isn't around, although he is still my star wars geek on "beat the geeks.")
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 22 2005, 01:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 22 2005, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chewbacca was enslaved by The Empire for use as a laborer. He escaped slavery and death with the help of a young officer by the name of Han Solo. A life debt was established, and Chewbacca joined Han in his adventures through the galaxy. Later, 'Chewie' played a significant role in the Rebel victory over the Empire. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And he dies many many years later.
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-StormLiong+May 22 2005, 07:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ May 22 2005, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 22 2005, 01:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 22 2005, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chewbacca was enslaved by The Empire for use as a laborer. He escaped slavery and death with the help of a young officer by the name of Han Solo. A life debt was established, and Chewbacca joined Han in his adventures through the galaxy. Later, 'Chewie' played a significant role in the Rebel victory over the Empire. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And he dies many many years later. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I heard he gets crushed by a planet, which made me laugh. May also not be true.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited May 2005
    Wait... I need to amend my postings.. to accurately reflect what I said better.

    History of Chewbacca.

    Chewbacca (or Chewie) (c. 200 BBY - c. 25 ABY), a fictional character of the Star Wars universe, is a seven-and-a-half-foot (2.28 metre-) tall Wookiee and co-pilot of Han Solo's ship, the Millennium Falcon. Wise and sophisticated, he has a great deal of technological savvy. While Chewie is perfectly able to understand the galactic-standard language Basic, he is unable to speak it due to his species' vocal structure. He communicates in his own language, Shyriiwook, while Solo always speaks to Chewie in Basic.

    Before meeting Solo, Chewie was a major player in the Battle of Kashyyyk (as seen in Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith), and he and Wookiee General Tarfull were responsible for Yoda's escape when Emperor Palpatine ordered the Clone Stormtroopers to turn on the Jedi.

    Chewbacca undertook a Wookiee "life debt" to Han Solo due to Solo saving his life at some point before Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. From the time Solo saved his life, up to Chewbacca's death on the planet of Sernpidal, the two were nearly inseparable.

    Initially, Princess Leia did not like Chewbacca, calling him a "walking carpet." But eventually she almost became as close a friend to Chewbacca as Han Solo. Chewbacca was very close to Han and Leia's children, becoming an uncle of sorts to the three children.

    In The Star Wars Holiday Special, Chewbacca has a family (wife Mallatobuck 'Malla' and son Lumpawarrump 'Lumpie') on Kashyyyk, his homeworld. With other major Star Wars characters, he visits them on Life Day. His family also appears in some of the novels, most notably the Black Fleet Crisis.

    In Vector Prime, the first in the New Jedi Order series of books, Chewbacca died when a Yuuzhan Vong weapon caused the moon of the planet sernpidal he was standing on to crash into the planet. Chewbacca's friends were all emotionally crushed by this loss. Han Solo was the most affected, and for a time he sought refuge among alcohol and the stars. Han believed that it was his son Anakin's fault that Chewie had died. As a result a rift opened between Han and Anakin.

    I was wrong on the fact RotS does actually include chewy... my confused state can only be blamed on lack of sleep as of late. :-)
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 22 2005, 07:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 22 2005, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In Vector Prime, the first in the New Jedi Order series of books, Chewbacca died when a Yuuzhan Vong weapon caused the moon of the planet sernpidal he was standing on to crash into the planet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ROFL.

    And Han calls his son Anakin?
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thaldarin+May 22 2005, 10:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thaldarin @ May 22 2005, 10:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one that thought there should have been the infamous Vader theme music as he walked up to the Emporer in one of the final scenes? That was the biggest disappointment for me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I wanted that too.



    Remember when Yoda got in the little pod ship on Kashyyyk, and blasted off, leaving Chewbacca and that other wookie? Did anyone else get a serious E.T. vibe? I thought that Yoda would hold out a glowing finger and say that he would always be in their heart.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited May 2005
    Han Solo--+--Leia Organa Solo

    Jaina Solo
    Jacen Solo
    Anakin Solo

    Leia named all of their children.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    I guess its okay, since Anakin did turn back to the Light Side at the last minute... after, you know, DESTROYING HER PLANET.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 22 2005, 01:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 22 2005, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Remember when Yoda got in the little pod ship on Kashyyyk, and blasted off, leaving Chewbacca and that other wookie? Did anyone else get a serious E.T. vibe? I thought that Yoda would hold out a glowing finger and say that he would always be in their heart. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I thought of that too.

    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am the new tycho? (When he isn't around, although he is still my star wars geek on "beat the geeks.")<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hell I thought everyone knew that all that...
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    The name of the wookie general, tarfull rings a bell, what that name used in either of the KOTOR games?
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    Republic Commando.
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Two of my favourite scenes from the film:

    Yoda walking into Palpatine's office and just pwning the pwn out of his two guards by moving his hand slightly. Made the whole cinema laugh too.

    Order 66 being put into action... the whole part, but especially the cone headed guy (Gah... Cyndane and Tycho will probably kill me but I really can't be bothered to look up his name). He's just like "Lets go! RARRRRRR!" then he looks back and he's all "WTH.... uh oh" then gets owned.

    I don't know what it is about that whole scene... it's kinda like.... the first time the bad guys really win anything in the star wars series. I know they kill countless troops and blow up planets and all kinds of stuff, but the Jedi are the "we never lose" guys.

    You do sort of see it in Attack Of the Clones, but all of the ones who die are nameless ones, and you hardly see any of them dying. It's more like "there were lots of them, now there aren't" to signify how many of them died. But the fact that we KNOW the jedi who are dying, and the fact that it's a betrayal... just makes it even worse.

    And wow, Greivous sucked so hard in the film. I don't care how badly injured he was, all he did was shove some droids around and cut the floor up. He didn't even talk harshly to the seperatist leaders, like Sidious or Maul would have done. He bullies some droids, causes hell for the cleaners on that planet, and gets blown up from the inside out. Some bad guy. R2D2 did more damage than him. Hell, Jar Jar Binks did far more damage in The Phantom Menace than he did in this film.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    *kills stickyman*

    Ki-Adi-Mundi

    was a wise Jedi Master and Jedi Council member at the time of the Clone Wars. He was only a Jedi Knight when he was elected to the High Council. Hailing from the planet Cerea, he survived the Battle of Geonosis, fighting alongside other such luminaries as Yoda and Mace Windu.

    For a brief time during the Clone Wars, Ki-Adi-Mundi took over as Anakin Skywalker's master when Obi-Wan Kenobi was presumed dead after the Battle of Jabiim.

    Ki-Adi Mundi was part of a Jedi strike force (group consisting of Master Daakman Barrek, Padawan Sha'a Gi, Tarr Seir, K'Khruk, Aayla Secura and Shaak Ti) that went to Hypori to destroy a droid factory. Unfortunately, their ship was shot out of the sky and any surviving clone troopers were killed by super battle droids. Then General Grievous made his introduction by attacking the Jedi. Ki-Adi Mundi, Shaak Ti, Aayla Secura and K'Khruk were the only survivors as Daakman Barrek, Sha'a Gi and Tarr Seir were killed by Grievous.

    Like all Cereans, his binary brain made him extremely logical and insightful, and allowed him to uniquely weigh decisions involving matters of the Force, both light and dark. Also characteristic of his species, his coordination was somewhat impaired, but compensated for by heightened intuition.

    Due to a low Cerean birthrate, he was allowed by the Jedi to follow the Cerean custom of polygamous marriage-- he had four honor wives and seven daughters who apparently all died in the Clone Wars.

    Ki-Adi was killed by clone stormtroopers while he was in command at the planet Mygeeto when Order 66 was executed.

    The design of this powerful Jedi character began as a reinterpretation of the elder Obi-Wan Kenobi, and then he was fitted with whale-like characteristics.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    edited May 2005
    Hmm where did I read about this **** on the Internet. I'll try to recreate it.

    Imagine Darth Vader as Hitler on trial.

    Judge - Ok Vader, you killed countless innocents people. You blew up a planet. You killed young Jedi in training. You betrayed your teachers, your friends. You treated your underlings mercilessly
    Darth's Lawyer - But your Honor! He saved his son!
    Judge - Oh, I didn't know that. This trial is over. Mr. Vader, you're free to go.

    Then everyone, including his two children who happened to grow up fine, hold a party with thousands of Ewoks. Darth is an honorary guests.
  • neko1neko1 Join Date: 2004-02-28 Member: 26950Members
    Where are you guys finding this wealth of Star Wars character information at? Did I miss a link somewhere in the thread? Or is it all from memory?
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 22 2005, 02:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 22 2005, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I guess its okay, since Anakin did turn back to the Light Side at the last minute... after, you know, DESTROYING HER PLANET.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh, stop focusing on the negative.
  • MantaManta Join Date: 2005-01-12 Member: 35056Members
    Just saw it today. There's something I'm kind of confused about.

    You know the part where Senator Organa shows up? I think it's at the Jedi Temple, or maybe it's just some unnamed place. Anyway, when the clone troopers tell him he should leave, some kid with a blue lightsaber flips out and cuts down a bunch of them, then gets shot to death. My reaction was basically, "WTH?" Where did he come from? Who is he?
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited May 2005
    The young child was a random youngling who was escaping the Jedi Temple from Anakins wrath. He wanted to escape and I'm sure Organa wanted to save him, as you can see, it didn't happen.

    Oh yes, most of this is from memory, but I have had some helpers.. most notably on IRC...

    I think we should call this Cyndane's answers for RotS thread.
  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    I just saw the movie yesterday, and I think it was pretty good. Certainly much better than episode 1 or 2, although I still prefer the 4.,5,6 movies a little better though. It seems as though a lot of people that Ive talked to feel this way too.

    The only thing I'm wondering about is why it takes so long for the death star to be finished. At the end of the movie, you see that they have frame of it done, but because this scene is mixed with scenes of Luke and Leia being sent away, you know that this is chronologically far away from the start of the next movie. However, the death start is only finished when they're both grown up. If it takes that long to finish the rest of it, then how did they complete the framework so quickly? And if the droids were the ones to have started the death star, then why was the second one finished so much ore quickly?
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-0blique+May 22 2005, 06:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ May 22 2005, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only thing I'm wondering about is why it takes so long for the death star to be finished. At the end of the movie, you see that they have frame of it done, but because this scene is mixed with scenes of Luke and Leia being sent away, you know that this is chronologically far away from the start of the next movie. However, the death start is only finished when they're both grown up. If it takes that long to finish the rest of it, then how did they complete the framework so quickly? And if the droids were the ones to have started the death star, then why was the second one finished so much ore quickly? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It takes alot less effort to weld a metal frame in the shape of a circle together, then to fill it in with electronics/hallways/OMGWTHPWN weapon.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Xyth+May 22 2005, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xyth @ May 22 2005, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-0blique+May 22 2005, 06:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ May 22 2005, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only thing I'm wondering about is why it takes so long for the death star to be finished.  At the end of the movie, you see that they have frame of it done, but  because this scene is mixed with scenes of Luke and Leia being sent away, you know that this is chronologically far away from the start of the next movie.  However, the death start is only finished when they're both grown up.  If it takes that long to finish the rest of it, then how did they complete the framework so quickly?  And if the droids were the ones to have started the death star, then why was the second one finished so much ore quickly? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It takes alot less effort to weld a metal frame in the shape of a circle together, then to fill it in with electronics/hallways/OMGWTHPWN weapon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Speaking of that weapon, don't you love the shots of when the laser cannon starts and all the workers in that laser tunnel duck and cover their heads?
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-neko?+May 22 2005, 09:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (neko? @ May 22 2005, 09:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Where are you guys finding this wealth of Star Wars character information at? Did I miss a link somewhere in the thread? Or is it all from memory? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Cyndane is copying and pasting either from Wikipedia.org (which is where I think the Chewbacca one came from) or starwars.com/databank, or mixing the two.

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  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NumbersNotFound+May 22 2005, 06:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ May 22 2005, 06:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Xyth+May 22 2005, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xyth @ May 22 2005, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-0blique+May 22 2005, 06:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (0blique @ May 22 2005, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only thing I'm wondering about is why it takes so long for the death star to be finished.  At the end of the movie, you see that they have frame of it done, but  because this scene is mixed with scenes of Luke and Leia being sent away, you know that this is chronologically far away from the start of the next movie.  However, the death start is only finished when they're both grown up.  If it takes that long to finish the rest of it, then how did they complete the framework so quickly?  And if the droids were the ones to have started the death star, then why was the second one finished so much ore quickly? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It takes alot less effort to weld a metal frame in the shape of a circle together, then to fill it in with electronics/hallways/OMGWTHPWN weapon. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Speaking of that weapon, don't you love the shots of when the laser cannon starts and all the workers in that laser tunnel duck and cover their heads? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That and the idea that the 2nd Death Star's construction began before the the first one was destroyed.

    I just saw the movie, got back 30 min ago.

    I liked it.

    General Grievious wasnt as bad **** as I hoped to be.

    Anakin kills the younglings EVIL!!! *Shakes fist.

    I liked the whole "The whole Order 66" scene. It made me sad


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    Oh well, we all know who wins in the end. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    edited May 2005
    I think the main reason why General Grievious wasn't as kick **** in the movie as he was suppose to be is that he was already kicking **** outisde the context of the movie. You should see how hard he pwned the jedis in Clone Wars.
  • StormLiongStormLiong Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11569Members
    Gives me a thought. Now gives more people incentives to read up more Expanded Universe stuff.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Do I have to subscribe to this thread or something? Cyndane keeps beating me because I have other things to do.
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+May 22 2005, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ May 22 2005, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Do I have to subscribe to this thread or something? Cyndane keeps beating me because I have other things to do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh, uh, we don't need you anymore. You can go home. If something happens to Cyndane, we'll call you.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Considering he's basically a human wrapped in a droid body, I'd say Grievous fought pretty well after having his <u>internal organs crushed</u>.
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+May 22 2005, 03:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 22 2005, 03:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The young child was a random youngling... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <i>Stop saying that</i>.
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