<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you some sort of crazy stupid pagan/mormon?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm German O_o
What's wrong with people enjoying sex with other people?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem?
If his friend can't deal with his girlfriend having fun he doesn't deserve to have her as girlfriend anyway because someone not allowing his partner to have fun is totally egoistic.
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 8 2005, 02:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 8 2005, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you some sort of crazy stupid pagan/mormon?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm German O_o
What's wrong with people enjoying sex with other people?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem?
If his friend can't deal with his girlfriend having fun he doesn't deserve to have her as girlfriend anyway because a someone not allowing his partner to have fun is totally egoistic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ergh I'm not gonna debate this with you it's wrong it just is, your warped in some way or were brought up sleeping in the same bed as your parent(s) your whole life.
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
edited June 2005
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 06:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's wrong with people enjoying sex with other people?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Are you serious? Do you just see sex as an "activity" of fun, just to piledrive some chick and jump her bones? You'd do great in the porn industry, considering they don't have feeling towards each other as you see to be implying.
If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care?
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Jun 8 2005, 02:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Jun 8 2005, 02:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 06:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's wrong with people enjoying sex with other people?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Are you serious? Do you just see sex as an "activity" of fun, just to piledrive some chick and jump her bones? You'd do great in the porn industry, considering they don't have feeling towards each other as you see to be implying.
If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol pork <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you haven't worked already, talk to the girl about it, she may be able to give suggestions too. Make sure everything is clear between the two of you, and then tell your friend. Do not call him on the phone, as severe as it may be, you probably will have a better friendship afterwards if you tell him face to face.
Again, it is just sex, he didn't exactly take her hostage or stopped her from returning to his friend, he didn't even try to.
So in my opinion there should be no wrath between them.
Anyway, good luck that he understands it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If both had fun and she returned to me everything would be fine...
I ain't a selfish demon that wants to restrict his loved ones from fun activities, as long as she comes back.
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 8 2005, 02:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 8 2005, 02:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So you want to join the "Obst is ****ed in the head" choir some people have formed?
Again, it is just sex, he didn't exactly take her hostage or stopped her from returning to his friend, he didn't even try to.
So in my opinion there should be no wrath between them.
Anyway, good luck that he understands it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If both had fun and she returned to me everything would be fine...
I ain't a selfish demon that wants to restrict his loved ones from fun activities, as long as she comes back. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What about if she comes back to you with HIV then gives it to you?
douchebagatronCustom member titleJoin Date: 2003-12-20Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
on behalf of the human race, i have one request. do NOT let that kid grow up without a GOOD father. whether it be you, or your friend, or anyone. do NOT let the kid grow up without a father.
<i>*Scene 1, a well furnished living room connected to the hall* --A door is smacked close--
Me: Hi Darling. She: Hi Honey. Me: How was your day? She: Well I had some fun at work, I was introduced to the new layouter and had sex with him. Me: Was it good? She: Yes indeed, it felt fresh. Me: Fresh? In what way? Mind telling me what happened so that I can use it to give you greater pleasure? She: Sure. [include excessive non PG-13 rated description] Me;: Wow, that's awesome, I would have never thought of a keyboard being used in that way. But still, one question begs me... She: What is it? Me: Do you love me? Do you want to stay with me after what you experienced today or do you think you would be better off without me? She: Of course I love you, and I only did it to have fun in the office. Want a hug? Me: Go ahead.
*Scene 2, bedroom* [snip] </i>
See what I mean?
If it is not connected to giving up the relationship because something that one experienced was "better" it should not be treated as an attack towards oneself.
<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What about if she comes back to you with HIV then gives it to you?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
wth... that would be stupidity on her side.
You want her to have sex with you only because you don't trust her that she can watch out or what?
And no one was talking about physical risks, such risks are everywhere but can be dealt with.
If sex isn't restricted to only between the two, what's the special bond? You're pretty much just friends, since she's just as intimate with you as she is with your friend down the street.
The way I see it love is traditionally 50% physical attraction/lust and 50% close friendship/companionship, and a relationship implies exclusive relations. In addition to the emotionally damaging bit most people would have if their female counterpart gave the town free rides, there's also STDs to worry about. EDIT: Like V-Man said
I'd never imagine being able to handle it if my girlfriend and my best friend had sex, because I trust them both a lot, and doing that would just seem like luncay. And Obst, in your world, if they were to both openly admit it and act like it was no big deal, I'd probably rampage.
Relationships seem like a pillar of security, where during which she exists for your love, companionship, and hapiness, and you exist for her love, companionship, and hapiness. I'm not saying no one's allowed to have friends, but there's a difference between friendship and a relationship.
I'd talk more but I've got demos to play :p
And no offense meant, Obst, I'm just telling how I see it.
And BadKarma... Good luck with not driving your friend crazy x.x
I guess our definition of <i>relationship</i> differs in exactly that point.
For you the "exclusive element" is more important, while for me I think that my partner being happy is more important. I could deal with anything as long as she is happy and with me. Both elements do not eliminate each other, so I don't want to say that you don't want your partner to be happy.
It is just a question of order, and mine is just as I presented it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God, where is MedHead when you need him?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God, where is MedHead when you need him?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You don't want to know.
Suffice it to say, he'd be more **** at you right now than BadKarma's friend is going to be at him.
That said, am I the only person here who thinks this isn't entirely BadKarma's fault? The guy's trying to console a long-time friend who just got her heart ripped out because the father of her child ran off, rejected her, screamed at her, called her a slut (any or all of the above, obviously I wasn't there for the specifics). Long-time friends have emotional bonds rivaling or surpassing any lovers' bonds, and in an such a state...it's not exactly like this is unprecedented, to seek comfort when one has been emotionally crushed. What exactly that comfort entails, well, that just depends on the situation and your surroundings.
What I'm trying to say is, BadKarma has just as much a right to be mad at his best friend for being a **** to his girlfriend, I mean, that's what set off this whole mess.
<!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Jun 7 2005, 09:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jun 7 2005, 09:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> God, where is MedHead when you need him? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm willing to bet his eyes burst into flames about halfway through page 3.
He's probably still convulsing on the ground in agony trying to claw the ashes from his ocular cavities and praying for the rapture to occur.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Morals are not something to "take lightly". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because of that?
If MedHead could have a small glimpse into my mind revealing what I think about today's religious flavoured morals and religion in general I guess he would jump into the next plane to Germany and slaughter me.
Oh well...
Still, even following you guys' logics I don't think that BadKarma is to be persecuted to hard. He only did it in order to help, not to destroy :/
douchebagatronCustom member titleJoin Date: 2003-12-20Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 09:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He only did it in order to help, not to destroy :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> not to call anyone a nazi, but hitler had good intentions.
<!--QuoteBegin-6john+Jun 8 2005, 04:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john @ Jun 8 2005, 04:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 09:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> He only did it in order to help, not to destroy :/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> not to call anyone a nazi, but hitler had good intentions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So you compare having sex with someone else's girlfriend to murder, torture and discrimination en grosse?
Even if the goals are "similar", you still have to look at the means employed.
Ah heck, perhaps it is just my different order of elements that form a good relationship again, but comparing BadKarma's means to Hitler's means.... urghs.
<!--QuoteBegin-Sky+Jun 7 2005, 09:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ Jun 7 2005, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->God, where is MedHead when you need him?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You don't want to know.
Suffice it to say, he'd be more **** at you right now than BadKarma's friend is going to be at him.
That said, am I the only person here who thinks this isn't entirely BadKarma's fault? The guy's trying to console a long-time friend who just got her heart ripped out because the father of her child ran off, rejected her, screamed at her, called her a slut (any or all of the above, obviously I wasn't there for the specifics). Long-time friends have emotional bonds rivaling or surpassing any lovers' bonds, and in an such a state...it's not exactly like this is unprecedented, to seek comfort when one has been emotionally crushed. What exactly that comfort entails, well, that just depends on the situation and your surroundings.
What I'm trying to say is, BadKarma has just as much a right to be mad at his best friend for being a **** to his girlfriend, I mean, that's what set off this whole mess. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sort of tired of the whole "taking advantage of her" thing. Ok so it was a stressful time or whatever, she's not drugged and he didn't force her, if he didn't have the sense to stop himself and keep from taking the shitstorm he's taking now, then she should have at least. Going with that taking advantage of her thing is following that whole vein of thought about women being weakminded and easily manipulated. Both genders can be messed with by the same means, but we all possess the ability to think about the consequences of our actions. So I'd say it's the girl's fault as well as badkarma's. If she wanted the father of her child to take her back then she would have thought a little about having relations with Badkarma. Though I can say the same to him.
In the end it was just a spur of the moment thing where thought wasn't really involved. Such is life I guess right? Good luck to him, in any case.
And obst, whatever strange and inexplicable world you live in lacks most of the rules that our world has in terms of relationships among people. Until you can understand what you lack, you have no justification for grouping all the people who disagree with you together, nor are you really capable of offering advice in a situation like this. Even if you think you are, you can't pretend not to know that Badkarma won't agree with you at all. You simply cannot, because you know that he will be shocked and annoyed by your views as well.
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Obst+Jun 7 2005, 06:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst @ Jun 7 2005, 06:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Let's imagine the following situation:
<i>*Scene 1, a well furnished living room connected to the hall* --A door is smacked close--
Me: Hi Darling. She: Hi Honey. Me: How was your day? She: Well I had some fun at work, I was introduced to the new layouter and had sex with him. Me: Was it good? She: Yes indeed, it felt fresh. Me: Fresh? In what way? Mind telling me what happened so that I can use it to give you greater pleasure? She: Sure. [include excessive non PG-13 rated description] Me;: Wow, that's awesome, I would have never thought of a keyboard being used in that way. But still, one question begs me... She: What is it? Me: Do you love me? Do you want to stay with me after what you experienced today or do you think you would be better off without me? She: Of course I love you, and I only did it to have fun in the office. Want a hug? Me: Go ahead.
*Scene 2, bedroom* [snip] </i>
See what I mean? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No.
NO girl is going to do that and come back to you saying, "Oh! I just let someone prong me and it was better than you, so here's some tips:"
They'd probably try and cut the relationship so they can go back to King Dong who'll be happy to park the beef bus in tuna town, because he can parallel park better than you.
Sorry for the inuendos and references, but I listen to The Bloodhound Gang.
From what I understand, you had "relations" with you're best friends g/f, who was ALREADY pregnent?
Well, if he's just left her, take his place as her support. DO NOT be her lover, unless you truely love her. Even then it is most likely too soon for that. Rather, be an emotional strongpoint she can draw from. He should not have left her and it will make it very hard for her.
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Jun 7 2005, 10:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Jun 7 2005, 10:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NO girl is going to do that and come back to you saying, "Oh! I just let someone prong me and it was better than you, so here's some tips:"
They'd probably try and cut the relationship so they can go back to King Dong who'll be happy to park the beef bus in tuna town, because he can parallel park better than you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Such a perfect reply! XD
good friend of mine has a pregnant GF and he just cheated on her, he feels terrible, like emotion lil girl crazy ****, i dont know what to say to him (and his mom just found out his gf is preggars and is just freekin out)
NeonSpyder"Das est NTLDR?"Join Date: 2003-07-03Member: 17913Members
am i the only one who agrees with Obst? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i knew this forum had the far conservates medhead and swiftspear but i wasn't aware that so many of you were "Ever so slightly" shifted in that direction across from neutral territory.
regardless, i'm putting my token in the "Obst for prime minister" bucket, and scratching my head in stupifaction at those who are stupified at Obst's logic.
BadKarma didn't act "wrongly" by any judge of the word, though i would have to say it was a very spur of the moment and problematic situation considering all parties involved would have similar views to those commenting. so, i suppose by their relative morals, they did somethign completely unthinkably messed up, though by other's it's just an extremely complicated situation which has sort of spun out of control.
the typical thing that happens in these kinds of situations, action before though, thought of regret, complete confusion and frustration and complication <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
SloppyKissesomgawd a furreh!VirginiaJoin Date: 2003-07-05Member: 17942Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 7 2005, 05:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 7 2005, 05:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just had relations with my best friends pregnant girlfriend. Tomorrow ain't gonna be good. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If it makes you sound better I have been having sex with my bestfriends girlfriend the past 2 weeks, almsot every single day
wait till he finds out rofl
fake edit: I swear this is a real story, no lies here.. I was hoping she would break up with him since she is in a abusive relationship with him, he beats her ect, punched her in the eye before... He was my bestfriend but after he started doing this to her, i took her under my wing basically and I hate his guts, i hope he finds out so i can kill him when he tries to fight me.
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Good luck with that one.
I'm German O_o
What's wrong with people enjoying sex with other people?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem?
If his friend can't deal with his girlfriend having fun he doesn't deserve to have her as girlfriend anyway because someone not allowing his partner to have fun is totally egoistic.
I'm German O_o
What's wrong with people enjoying sex with other people?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem?
If his friend can't deal with his girlfriend having fun he doesn't deserve to have her as girlfriend anyway because a someone not allowing his partner to have fun is totally egoistic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ergh I'm not gonna debate this with you it's wrong it just is, your warped in some way or were brought up sleeping in the same bed as your parent(s) your whole life.
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you serious? Do you just see sex as an "activity" of fun, just to piledrive some chick and jump her bones? You'd do great in the porn industry, considering they don't have feeling towards each other as you see to be implying.
If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care?
I mean, everyone is having fun!
Yay sex!
So what is the problem? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you serious? Do you just see sex as an "activity" of fun, just to piledrive some chick and jump her bones? You'd do great in the porn industry, considering they don't have feeling towards each other as you see to be implying.
If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol pork <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Good luck though.
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Again, it is just sex, he didn't exactly take her hostage or stopped her from returning to his friend, he didn't even try to.
So in my opinion there should be no wrath between them.
Anyway, good luck that he understands it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care?
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If both had fun and she returned to me everything would be fine...
I ain't a selfish demon that wants to restrict his loved ones from fun activities, as long as she comes back.
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Again, it is just sex, he didn't exactly take her hostage or stopped her from returning to his friend, he didn't even try to.
So in my opinion there should be no wrath between them.
Anyway, good luck that he understands it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If someone were to pork your girlfriend, if you have one that you just got pregnant, would you not care?
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If both had fun and she returned to me everything would be fine...
I ain't a selfish demon that wants to restrict his loved ones from fun activities, as long as she comes back. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What about if she comes back to you with HIV then gives it to you?
Not so much fun now is it....
<i>*Scene 1, a well furnished living room connected to the hall*
--A door is smacked close--
Me: Hi Darling.
She: Hi Honey.
Me: How was your day?
She: Well I had some fun at work, I was introduced to the new layouter and had sex with him.
Me: Was it good?
She: Yes indeed, it felt fresh.
Me: Fresh? In what way? Mind telling me what happened so that I can use it to give you greater pleasure?
She: Sure. [include excessive non PG-13 rated description]
Me;: Wow, that's awesome, I would have never thought of a keyboard being used in that way. But still, one question begs me...
She: What is it?
Me: Do you love me? Do you want to stay with me after what you experienced today or do you think you would be better off without me?
She: Of course I love you, and I only did it to have fun in the office. Want a hug?
Me: Go ahead.
*Scene 2, bedroom*
[snip]
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See what I mean?
If it is not connected to giving up the relationship because something that one experienced was "better" it should not be treated as an attack towards oneself.
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wth... that would be stupidity on her side.
You want her to have sex with you only because you don't trust her that she can watch out or what?
And no one was talking about physical risks, such risks are everywhere but can be dealt with.
The way I see it love is traditionally 50% physical attraction/lust and 50% close friendship/companionship, and a relationship implies exclusive relations. In addition to the emotionally damaging bit most people would have if their female counterpart gave the town free rides, there's also STDs to worry about. EDIT: Like V-Man said
I'd never imagine being able to handle it if my girlfriend and my best friend had sex, because I trust them both a lot, and doing that would just seem like luncay. And Obst, in your world, if they were to both openly admit it and act like it was no big deal, I'd probably rampage.
Relationships seem like a pillar of security, where during which she exists for your love, companionship, and hapiness, and you exist for her love, companionship, and hapiness. I'm not saying no one's allowed to have friends, but there's a difference between friendship and a relationship.
I'd talk more but I've got demos to play :p
And no offense meant, Obst, I'm just telling how I see it.
And BadKarma... Good luck with not driving your friend crazy x.x
EDIT: Narfwak - XD
I guess our definition of <i>relationship</i> differs in exactly that point.
For you the "exclusive element" is more important, while for me I think that my partner being happy is more important. I could deal with anything as long as she is happy and with me.
Both elements do not eliminate each other, so I don't want to say that you don't want your partner to be happy.
It is just a question of order, and mine is just as I presented it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Why?
Why? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You don't want to know.
Suffice it to say, he'd be more **** at you right now than BadKarma's friend is going to be at him.
That said, am I the only person here who thinks this isn't entirely BadKarma's fault? The guy's trying to console a long-time friend who just got her heart ripped out because the father of her child ran off, rejected her, screamed at her, called her a slut (any or all of the above, obviously I wasn't there for the specifics). Long-time friends have emotional bonds rivaling or surpassing any lovers' bonds, and in an such a state...it's not exactly like this is unprecedented, to seek comfort when one has been emotionally crushed. What exactly that comfort entails, well, that just depends on the situation and your surroundings.
What I'm trying to say is, BadKarma has just as much a right to be mad at his best friend for being a **** to his girlfriend, I mean, that's what set off this whole mess.
I'm willing to bet his eyes burst into flames about halfway through page 3.
He's probably still convulsing on the ground in agony trying to claw the ashes from his ocular cavities and praying for the rapture to occur.
Because of that?
If MedHead could have a small glimpse into my mind revealing what I think about today's religious flavoured morals and religion in general I guess he would jump into the next plane to Germany and slaughter me.
Oh well...
Still, even following you guys' logics I don't think that BadKarma is to be persecuted to hard. He only did it in order to help, not to destroy :/
not to call anyone a nazi, but hitler had good intentions.
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So you compare having sex with someone else's girlfriend to murder, torture and discrimination en grosse?
Even if the goals are "similar", you still have to look at the means employed.
Ah heck, perhaps it is just my different order of elements that form a good relationship again, but comparing BadKarma's means to Hitler's means.... urghs.
do you do drugs?
Why? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You don't want to know.
Suffice it to say, he'd be more **** at you right now than BadKarma's friend is going to be at him.
That said, am I the only person here who thinks this isn't entirely BadKarma's fault? The guy's trying to console a long-time friend who just got her heart ripped out because the father of her child ran off, rejected her, screamed at her, called her a slut (any or all of the above, obviously I wasn't there for the specifics). Long-time friends have emotional bonds rivaling or surpassing any lovers' bonds, and in an such a state...it's not exactly like this is unprecedented, to seek comfort when one has been emotionally crushed. What exactly that comfort entails, well, that just depends on the situation and your surroundings.
What I'm trying to say is, BadKarma has just as much a right to be mad at his best friend for being a **** to his girlfriend, I mean, that's what set off this whole mess. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sort of tired of the whole "taking advantage of her" thing. Ok so it was a stressful time or whatever, she's not drugged and he didn't force her, if he didn't have the sense to stop himself and keep from taking the shitstorm he's taking now, then she should have at least. Going with that taking advantage of her thing is following that whole vein of thought about women being weakminded and easily manipulated. Both genders can be messed with by the same means, but we all possess the ability to think about the consequences of our actions. So I'd say it's the girl's fault as well as badkarma's. If she wanted the father of her child to take her back then she would have thought a little about having relations with Badkarma. Though I can say the same to him.
In the end it was just a spur of the moment thing where thought wasn't really involved. Such is life I guess right? Good luck to him, in any case.
And obst, whatever strange and inexplicable world you live in lacks most of the rules that our world has in terms of relationships among people. Until you can understand what you lack, you have no justification for grouping all the people who disagree with you together, nor are you really capable of offering advice in a situation like this. Even if you think you are, you can't pretend not to know that Badkarma won't agree with you at all. You simply cannot, because you know that he will be shocked and annoyed by your views as well.
<i>*Scene 1, a well furnished living room connected to the hall*
--A door is smacked close--
Me: Hi Darling.
She: Hi Honey.
Me: How was your day?
She: Well I had some fun at work, I was introduced to the new layouter and had sex with him.
Me: Was it good?
She: Yes indeed, it felt fresh.
Me: Fresh? In what way? Mind telling me what happened so that I can use it to give you greater pleasure?
She: Sure. [include excessive non PG-13 rated description]
Me;: Wow, that's awesome, I would have never thought of a keyboard being used in that way. But still, one question begs me...
She: What is it?
Me: Do you love me? Do you want to stay with me after what you experienced today or do you think you would be better off without me?
She: Of course I love you, and I only did it to have fun in the office. Want a hug?
Me: Go ahead.
*Scene 2, bedroom*
[snip]
</i>
See what I mean? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No.
NO girl is going to do that and come back to you saying, "Oh! I just let someone prong me and it was better than you, so here's some tips:"
They'd probably try and cut the relationship so they can go back to King Dong who'll be happy to park the beef bus in tuna town, because he can parallel park better than you.
Sorry for the inuendos and references, but I listen to The Bloodhound Gang.
As said.. wow, Obst. Your views are <i>extremely</i> different from anyone on these forums that isnt a ... swinger. *shudder*
Nuff said.
From what I understand, you had "relations" with you're best friends g/f, who was ALREADY pregnent?
Well, if he's just left her, take his place as her support. DO NOT be her lover, unless you truely love her. Even then it is most likely too soon for that. Rather, be an emotional strongpoint she can draw from. He should not have left her and it will make it very hard for her.
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Such a perfect reply! XD
i knew this forum had the far conservates medhead and swiftspear but i wasn't aware that so many of you were "Ever so slightly" shifted in that direction across from neutral territory.
regardless, i'm putting my token in the "Obst for prime minister" bucket, and scratching my head in stupifaction at those who are stupified at Obst's logic.
BadKarma didn't act "wrongly" by any judge of the word, though i would have to say it was a very spur of the moment and problematic situation considering all parties involved would have similar views to those commenting. so, i suppose by their relative morals, they did somethign completely unthinkably messed up, though by other's it's just an extremely complicated situation which has sort of spun out of control.
the typical thing that happens in these kinds of situations, action before though, thought of regret, complete confusion and frustration and complication <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If it makes you sound better I have been having sex with my bestfriends girlfriend the past 2 weeks, almsot every single day
wait till he finds out rofl
fake edit: I swear this is a real story, no lies here.. I was hoping she would break up with him since she is in a abusive relationship with him, he beats her ect, punched her in the eye before... He was my bestfriend but after he started doing this to her, i took her under my wing basically and I hate his guts, i hope he finds out so i can kill him when he tries to fight me.