Jail time for FPSers in Germany

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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588030:date=Dec 13 2006, 06:39 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Dec 13 2006, 06:39 AM) [snapback]1588030[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    It's not idiotic, it's a question of opinion. I find Counter-Strike to be jaw-wrenchingly boring, and you won't convince me otherwise.
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    You should work for Verizon.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2006
    Back in the day CS what "teh hot" I played Action Half-Life, Twas way more fun then CS, as said before: matter of opinion"

    I have played CS once and a while, but it didn't have the charm that AHL, NS1.04 and FH has, even HLDM was more fun IMHO, well stalkyards and crossfire perhaps <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Counter-Strike was behind the times when it came out.

    It hasn't changed.

    ...and I enjoy it very little, and only in 3 month hour long bursts.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    That's offensive and ridiculous, Epidemic. Whether you like a game or not is strictly a matter of personal preference. Math isn't. Try a comparison that makes sense.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588174:date=Dec 14 2006, 10:45 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Dec 14 2006, 10:45 AM) [snapback]1588174[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    That's offensive and ridiculous, Epidemic. Whether you like a game or not is strictly a matter of personal preference. Math isn't. Try a comparison that makes sense.
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    Don't get so worked up about your precious opinion that you can't even see a joke on the internet. Just remember that nobody will ever care quite so much as you do.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1587905:date=Dec 12 2006, 11:31 PM:name=Faskalia)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Faskalia @ Dec 12 2006, 11:31 PM) [snapback]1587905[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Who/What did they blame then?

    Anyone here old enough to remember?
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    Depot ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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    According to the article, it was property tax that caused him to do it. Taxes kill people, we should ban taxes!
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1588204:date=Dec 14 2006, 02:20 AM:name=Petco)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petco @ Dec 14 2006, 02:20 AM) [snapback]1588204[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    According to the article, it was property tax that caused him to do it. Taxes kill people, we should ban taxes!
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    That is the best idea ever. Ban taxes because they make you go crazy! IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588185:date=Dec 14 2006, 01:14 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 14 2006, 01:14 AM) [snapback]1588185[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Don't get so worked up about your precious opinion that you can't even see a joke on the internet. Just remember that nobody will ever care quite so much as you do.
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    I'm very sorry for sarcasm not working on the internet. No wait, I'm not. Go stick your head in the blender.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588365:date=Dec 14 2006, 10:46 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Dec 14 2006, 10:46 PM) [snapback]1588365[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I'm very sorry for sarcasm not working on the internet. No wait, I'm not. Go stick your head in the blender.
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    No, that wasn't sarcasm. Don't be dumb(er).
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    How about you just go away? You clearly don't enjoy being here, since all your posts just consist of insults. Hell, you said you weren't actually going to stay. Please keep your promise.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1588384:date=Dec 14 2006, 11:54 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Dec 14 2006, 11:54 PM) [snapback]1588384[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    How about you just go away? You clearly don't enjoy being here, since all your posts just consist of insults. Hell, you said you weren't actually going to stay. Please keep your promise.
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    Now that seems to be a personal attack to me. I haven't attacked you, I've just attacked the dumb way in which you express yourself.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    And I have merely attacked your presence here, not you as a person.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1585586:date=Dec 7 2006, 10:51 PM:name=Jmmsbnd007)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jmmsbnd007 @ Dec 7 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]1585586[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Germany trying to ban "violent" video games? Amusing.
    Germany starting a war that killed 62 million people before video games ever existed? Priceless.
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    Oh the irony.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Aaaaaand here we go again. Guess what? I know it comes as a shock to you, but Germany doesn't have concentration camps anymore. And no, we REALLY don't have them. We abolished them, instead of just moving them to Cuba.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588128:date=Dec 13 2006, 04:46 PM:name=Quaunaut)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quaunaut @ Dec 13 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1588128[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Counter-Strike was behind the times when it came out.

    It hasn't changed.

    ...and I enjoy it very little, and only in 3 month hour long bursts.
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    Saying CS was behind times when it came out is ignorant. Give me an example that was better during the same time period. CS was one of the first shooters that successfully implemented recoil while still making aiming skill and not luck. It was one of the first of its kind, most of what came after was inspired by CS.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    The recoil method was all it had. Otherwise it was just another mod, with a faux monetary system to choose between the few worthwhile weapons. Implying it had more than that, purely as a game(and not as a phenomenon) is more ignorant than shoving credit it's way.
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588386:date=Dec 14 2006, 08:02 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 14 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]1588386[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Now that seems to be a personal attack to me. I haven't attacked you, I've just attacked the dumb way in which you express yourself.
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    oh my.......... serious business on the internets, better watch out
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I think we all need to cool down a little. This is going nowhere.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    huh? I thought the big thing about counterstrike was the death system (sit it out!) which may not have been new but had been rare, the fact there was something to do <b>other</b> than just kill people for a score and the fact people didn't take more bullets to kill than the US army could muster :p

    As for the recoil system making it less random... what? The difference it made is between short quick bursts and spray and pray. For ages the first shot was 100% accurate anyways before they fixed it.

    DoD had a good non-random recoil system :3
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1587859:date=Dec 12 2006, 10:37 PM:name=Petco)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petco @ Dec 12 2006, 10:37 PM) [snapback]1587859[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster" target="_blank">Bath School disaster</a>, if violent video games were made back then, I'd think people would blame that.
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    Maybe if he hadn't spent his money to make bombs they wouldn't have foreclosed on his farm in the first place.


    <!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Aaaaaand here we go again. Guess what? I know it comes as a shock to you, but Germany doesn't have concentration camps anymore. And no, we REALLY don't have them. We abolished them, instead of just moving them to Cuba.
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    Baa-zing.

    What do you call this, then?
    <img src="http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g247/UltimaGecko/buchenwaldsm.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

    That's right, a memorial.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588517:date=Dec 15 2006, 07:11 AM:name=TOmekki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TOmekki @ Dec 15 2006, 07:11 AM) [snapback]1588517[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    oh my.......... serious business on the internets, better watch out
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    No, I'm just wondering why the mods delete my "personal attacks" on other people, yet lolfighter gets to go around acting like an idiot, and doesn't get censored. I'm confused, since I thought this was an "all-ages" site, regardless of the fact that half-life itself is 15+.
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    edited December 2006
    EDIT: Argh I accidently replied to something from the first few pages. Wait a while I'll change this to something on topic

    Actually mods please delete this post
  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    edited December 2006
    Oh wow, way to go to diminish the memory of those who were in Concentration camps to the trivial Guantanamo Bay. I'm guessing it's easy to make Godwin remarks like that when you claim the moral highground.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588614:date=Dec 15 2006, 11:44 AM:name=Revlic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Revlic @ Dec 15 2006, 11:44 AM) [snapback]1588614[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Oh wow, way to go to diminish the memory of those who were in Concentration camps to the trivial Guantanamo Bay. I'm guessing it's easy to make Godwin remarks like that when you claim the moral highground.
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    Guantanamo Bay is trivial? Boy howdy you sure are a good old american patriot, do your country proud, it ain't torture boy, it's FREEDOM.

    Stop trivialising both affairs.
  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1588618:date=Dec 15 2006, 12:50 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 15 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]1588618[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Guantanamo Bay is trivial? Boy howdy you sure are a good old american patriot, do your country proud, it ain't torture boy, it's FREEDOM.

    Stop trivialising both affairs.
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    You have no clue what goes on in Guantanamo Bay. It's laughable that you even consider what they do there torture. Then again I'm not the one making comparisons to detainment in Cuba to Auschwitz.

    Seriously. Now, who's being trivial. Then again it's easy when you accept whatever anti-American bile that comes across you.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588620:date=Dec 15 2006, 11:53 AM:name=Revlic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Revlic @ Dec 15 2006, 11:53 AM) [snapback]1588620[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    You have no clue what goes on in Guantanamo Bay. It's laughable that you even consider what they do there torture. Then again I'm not the one making comparisons to detainment in Cuba to Auschwitz.

    Seriously. Now, who's being trivial. Then again it's easy when you accept whatever anti-American bile that comes across you.
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    What the hell are you going on about? The common consensus is that it's torture, and there have been a number of statements from officials [and the current bush endeavours to redefine torture] to back this up. The reason they put it in cuba is because it's not subject to american human rights laws or even the geneva convention until june of this year. If you honestly believe that there is not torture going on, nor has there ever been torture, at guantanamo bay, then my arguments speak for themselves -- you don't bear consideration in a logical manner.

    And I'm not anti-american, I'm anti-idiots. You, and a large number of other americans, just happen to fit that criteria. Tough luck, stop whinging and get an education.
  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1588625:date=Dec 15 2006, 01:02 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 15 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]1588625[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What the hell are you going on about? The common consensus is that it's torture, and there have been a number of statements from officials [and the current bush endeavours to redefine torture] to back this up. The reason they put it in cuba is because it's not subject to american human rights laws or even the geneva convention until june of this year. If you honestly believe that there is not torture going on, nor has there ever been torture, at guantanamo bay, then my arguments speak for themselves -- you don't bear consideration in a logical manner.

    And I'm not anti-american, I'm anti-idiots. You, and a large number of other americans, just happen to fit that criteria. Tough luck, stop whinging and get an education.
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    Wow, first you assume I'm uneducated, next you assume I have no understanding in the areas of cohesion. The only people who call what goes on down there "torture" are people who already had a axes to grind in the first place. How you can compare what goes there "torture" is laughable in it's own right.

    Oh and BTW, your arguments only speak to how much of a weak minded fool you are. But I guess I already axed your logic centers of your brain when I pointed out how your the one that can trivialize human suffering.

    People will believe anything if you say it enough, to be quite honest, I think what they do in Gitmo doesn't go far enough in terms of cohesion but likewise we aren't sick *******s. But likewise, the only reason your responding to me is because I already shamed you in under a paragraph.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Jesus christ. No wonder you argue on the internet instead of real life, you'd be laughed right out of the debating room. Do you even speak coherent english, or do you string a bunch of words together and hope they form a scathing, relevant rebuttal?

    Also, your ad hominem attacks are about as cutting as a feather and as inspired as the graffiti scratched into train windows. Go away before you embarrass yourself further, and waste more of my time.
  • RevlicRevlic Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58367Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1588630:date=Dec 15 2006, 01:16 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Dec 15 2006, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1588630[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Jesus christ. No wonder you argue on the internet instead of real life, you'd be laughed right out of the debating room. Do you even speak coherent english, or do you string a bunch of words together and hope they form a scathing, relevant rebuttal?

    Also, your ad hominem attacks are about as cutting as a feather and as inspired as the graffiti scratched into train windows. Go away before you embarrass yourself further, and waste more of my time.
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    How about you do me a favor and not make another post on this thread and save face. Because you haven't provided me any real proof to your argument other then hearsay about what you consider torture. But then again you probably haven't the slightest clue what real torture is anyway.

    And as for ad hom attacks, that's me getting personal pleasure mocking your intelligence.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    edited December 2006
    I'll concede that my post doesn't really have much to do with FPS being banned in Germany, but you guys have just rocketed off subject...and are now orbiting Vega or Alpha Centauri or something. I'm fairly sure that we (the sane amongst us) can all agree that torture in Guantanamo Bay doesn't have anything to do with banning a First Person Shooter in Bavaria.



    Why can't someone just invent something that politicians can bash on for causing all our problems, yet nobody cares if it goes away? I'm surprised things like Airsoft and Paintball don't contribute more to politicians' agendas...I mean, you've got realistic guns with the intend to (to some extent) cause pain in other people in a game of intense pretend war. Personally I think running around with a gun that actually shoots projectiles and has realistic actions and looks is a bit more important to focus on than fighting aliens or being annoyed with random bullet spread in a computer game. Why can't we just go back to blaming swing music and those pesky flappers, with their low-down morals and adherence to vice?
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