<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The really cool thing about this model is that it sucks hard<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know of no member who would be allowed to say something like this - and not have it get modded.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And don't flame me. Just because you can't model and neither can he<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Don’t want to be flamed? Then why dont you stop flaming others.
<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=36095' target='_blank'>I did not know this kind of talk was allowed, by anyone.</a> To see his posts not nuked, or edited by mods is extremely upsetting. Surge - you provided no constructive criticism, you provided nothing that was positive, and I've never seen you act this way. The respect meter for you just went down the drain. If you cant say anything nice - don’t say anything at all. (One of Fam's favorite sayings...)
As for the model - I like but I think she is way too girlish. Keep in mind, she went through the same training as the male marines did - she probably would not be the "Tomb Radier" type with her skinny waste and what not. I'd blulk her up a bit...
Man! She looks androxic!!! Give the woman some meat! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Frankly speaking, the lady's too skinny for my tastes, and as SentrySlave said, she IS too skinny for battles against some other "intelligent lifeforms". But please do not make her another LaraCroft spinoff, please. Thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Take a look at some anime pictures of chicks with guns, aaah...the perfect balance of "easy on the eyes" girls and whoopazz guns <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
(P.S. YES i am a anime freak, so sue me, better yet, kill me <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> )
I like the idea, the concept... but you really did start off on the wrong foot using the prefab male marine. Now I know how this is going to sound, but the best way to start ANY human model is to begin with an anatimically correct nude figure and slowly build layers of clothing / armor / extras on to the figure as you go.
And if it hasnt already been stated, the head looks bad... real bad. I dont know about anyone else but it reminds me of a ballon with Stargate alien armor glued to it. The body, as is, looks fine if not a little vulptious. If you dont wan't to put all the work into remodeling the ENTIRE body, you could just take an anitomically correct, average woman's head (easly found on any 3d modeling site) and add head / neck gear on top of it.. making sure to leave room for the neck and facial features. That alone would make the model look about 30% more realistic.
I hope that information helped.
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PS... Add some HLMV shots if you can, we all know how unpredictable and akward in-game screens can make a model look. I like the model and where its going, keep up the goods.
why not avp themed ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> nah.. to much tomb raider for you guys... seriously..your model looks like the system shock 2 player model..
heres a little wallpaper ive done.. i have somethin similar for my menu.. without this recruitment propaganda <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Honestly, why does EVERY single female character have to be dwawn 46 28 34? I'd have to say a size 1 chick with **** the size of garage doors is a tad more unrealistic than the current version of this model.
trying to balance her out guys, but if I put her too beefy she begins uh look like a guy again.
The face actually has a bumped out nose, the skin I cant really fix, im just not a skinner so im going to leave that up to someone who is qualified to do it.
That's what I always ask myself too. But I think it's become a habit. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Heres some HLMV pics. I fattend her up a lil' minute bit, the face is unchanged because I CANNOT skin worth a crap. I cut the head and hair off the nympho skin so now its just her head and hair in the skin and not her whole body.
<!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> and a bonus pic from in front of her walking.
Neat. Although I still think her face looks a bit washed out... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
its not girl i tells ya. the thing with action is the men r butch, beer drinking, alien killing slabs of meat, and the women r thin, big busted, and 1000 times more deadlier than they r attractive. its just the way it is. nerd gamers wanna be the butch man, while normal peeps wanna be a hot chick
Commando, fantastic job man. I personally think she looks better when she's not beefed up. You need to keep her thin and still looking like a chick (large breasts are nice <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->). At least, that's my opinion. Looking forward to release; I'm definately going to use this.
Oh and also, the face is a little washed out. Maybe fix that when she's done.
Her face is WAY too washed out, like other people said. You should've used a differnet head for her. Some of the female models in AHL have nice looking heads, you should use one of those.
again, the face is a skin problem, not a model problem, im going to leave that up to someone who can do a goodjob on it, because frankly, I suck at skinning.
i think that you need to reskin the back of the legs and the face.. other than that so far it's pretty good. edit: the back of the legs because i think all the ripples in the clothing look unnatural
I think she's looking pretty good! ...yea the skin looks ok just maybe add a bit of contrast in the face, that should do the trick for right now. Maybe you could add a few hair strands to the skin dangling behind the helmet just to sort of make her even more female.
<!--QuoteBegin--bLuISh+Jul 20 2003, 01:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bLuISh @ Jul 20 2003, 01:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it looks like a cross dresser to me, i say u add some kind of boobs and a LESS blurry face,when we got sumthin going, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont know many girls with quadroble d's, im not going to make them larger and her be some kind of slut sex object, shes got a nice sized chest region, any bigger and she WILL be a sex object, as for the hair strands i'll look into it.
Don't make the breasts bigger, even if she had big breasts, the suit wouldn't stretch and bend to fit perfectly to them. They would make the suits average sized, like your model has them now. Just leave them.
<!--QuoteBegin--Surge+Jul 18 2003, 06:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Surge @ Jul 18 2003, 06:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The really cool thing about this model is that it sucks hard. It looks like you just took the normal model and squeezed it and made it skinnier (which you probably did). Doesn't even look right. No offense, but we could use some original models. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Feel free to post your own model so we can compare the two.
Edited to remove slightly mean comments regarding Surge's artistic talents...
<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Jul 19 2003, 12:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jul 19 2003, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why not avp themed ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> nah.. to much tomb raider for you guys... seriously..your model looks like the system shock 2 player model..
heres a little wallpaper ive done.. i have somethin similar for my menu.. without this recruitment propaganda <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Damn you sheena,now im having dreams about that picture when im sleeping... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
From the last updated pictures you gave us, like on page seven of this thread, her legs still looked too scrawny. Her thighs are too thin and her calves are non-existant. Remember that she is wearing thick armor plated boots, so you have to scale them on the X and Z dimensions. Her thighs aren't too far off from being okay, but they have a little ways to go. You should scale those as well on the same dimension.
Download some actual model photos for reference sheesh. Not those European drug addict ones or the playboy ones.
Here, work from this. <b>::snickers violently::</b> I made it this morning in photoshop. Really, you guys keep saying it over and over you had it coming. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The really cool thing about this model is that it sucks hard<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know of no member who would be allowed to say something like this - and not have it get modded.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And don't flame me. Just because you can't model and neither can he<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don’t want to be flamed? Then why dont you stop flaming others.
<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=17&t=36095' target='_blank'>I did not know this kind of talk was allowed, by anyone.</a> To see his posts not nuked, or edited by mods is extremely upsetting. Surge - you provided no constructive criticism, you provided nothing that was positive, and I've never seen you act this way. The respect meter for you just went down the drain. If you cant say anything nice - don’t say anything at all. (One of Fam's favorite sayings...)
As for the model - I like but I think she is way too girlish. Keep in mind, she went through the same training as the male marines did - she probably would not be the "Tomb Radier" type with her skinny waste and what not. I'd blulk her up a bit...
Frankly speaking, the lady's too skinny for my tastes, and as SentrySlave said, she IS too skinny for battles against some other "intelligent lifeforms". But please do not make her another LaraCroft spinoff, please. Thanks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Take a look at some anime pictures of chicks with guns, aaah...the perfect balance of "easy on the eyes" girls and whoopazz guns <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
(P.S. YES i am a anime freak, so sue me, better yet, kill me <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> )
And if it hasnt already been stated, the head looks bad... real bad. I dont know about anyone else but it reminds me of a ballon with Stargate alien armor glued to it. The body, as is, looks fine if not a little vulptious. If you dont wan't to put all the work into remodeling the ENTIRE body, you could just take an anitomically correct, average woman's head (easly found on any 3d modeling site) and add head / neck gear on top of it.. making sure to leave room for the neck and facial features. That alone would make the model look about 30% more realistic.
I hope that information helped.
EDIT:
PS... Add some HLMV shots if you can, we all know how unpredictable and akward in-game screens can make a model look. I like the model and where its going, keep up the goods.
but yeh the face seems a little flat.
nah.. to much tomb raider for you guys...
seriously..your model looks like the system shock 2 player model..
heres a little wallpaper ive done.. i have somethin similar for my menu.. without this
recruitment propaganda <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
The face actually has a bumped out nose, the skin I cant really fix, im just not a skinner so im going to leave that up to someone who is qualified to do it.
Nice picture though. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
anyway standing front.
Oh and also, the face is a little washed out. Maybe fix that when she's done.
edit: the back of the legs because i think all the ripples in the clothing look unnatural
I dont know many girls with quadroble d's, im not going to make them larger and her be some kind of slut sex object, shes got a nice sized chest region, any bigger and she WILL be a sex object, as for the hair strands i'll look into it.
any way they can be sized down a bit? or maybe i just didn't look hard enough... hmmm
Feel free to post your own model so we can compare the two.
Edited to remove slightly mean comments regarding Surge's artistic talents...
nah.. to much tomb raider for you guys...
seriously..your model looks like the system shock 2 player model..
heres a little wallpaper ive done.. i have somethin similar for my menu.. without this
recruitment propaganda <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Damn you sheena,now im having dreams about that picture when im sleeping... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Download some actual model photos for reference sheesh. Not those European drug addict ones or the playboy ones.