Yeah i kinda feel like that at times Quaunaut, why do women dress so skimpy ? i was riding down my street when 3 or 4 girls were walking along dressed up as school girls, with short skirts and long socks, not that it was bad , though it was cold outside, and wearing 1000000 layers of make up. Pointless if you ask me, grown up, is when your responsible, you can make ur own choices, without guidance or infulence, thats what i think rown up is.
Anyone seen that girl bang called tatu the reason they were popular was because of their "love" scenes in their videos, this obviously made men buy it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Renegade+Aug 3 2003, 01:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Aug 3 2003, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This topic needs a nice big <span style='color:red'><b>**LOCK**</span></b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No apparent reason for it. If you think so, report it and see if the mods agree.
luckily this happened to Denmark yet, or maybe i just have to go outside more, well i don't remember anyone dressing as wh0res, teh only "prob" i've stumbled upon is those shirts where you can see some of the belly, and i only remember fatties wearing those :/
I think the cutest and sexiest girl I ever saw was walking to my college physics class in long pajama bottoms and a baggy sleep-shirt. Her hair was all messed up and she didn't have makeup on. God was she hot. I like it cause that's how I go to school. gym shorts, an old t shirt, flip flops, and sometimes a beanie
<!--QuoteBegin--Jammer+Aug 2 2003, 10:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jammer @ Aug 2 2003, 10:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. Girl want guys to notice her. 2. Girl dresses hotter for guys. 3. Friends see girl, feel need to compete.
Its kinda like clothing capitalism.
And yeah, sometimes more=hotter. But thongs = hottest. :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Clothing capitalism, I like it.
And as fo sheezy said, hot girls in pajamas = whoa. I have stories, but... well... I'm not sharing. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I say variety is the spice of life. Around here there's a mix - some prance around in tube tops and miniskirts, some wear jeans and sweatshirts. I like 'em all and wouldn't want any particular style to disappear from the landscape.
<!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Aug 2 2003, 07:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Aug 2 2003, 07:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was hosting an under 18's night a few weeks ago, and i don't wanna sound sick or nout but i swear these 15/16 year old girls ask for paedophiles to assault them the way they dress!
I know paedophiles are sick ppl, but they are just basically ppl like us who don't mind going that little bit further!
These girls don't wear skirts, they wear belts, and they don't wear tops, they wear corsits!
Would I go out with one of these girls? NO WAY, I'd be embarassed to walk the street next to em.
Give me a girl whos good looking but at the same time dosen't dress like a wh0re and also has a good personality <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> To the bottem line, AMEN!
My apartment is across the street from a Hooters. I don't think I can comment. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
If I lived across the street from Hooters, I'd probly kill myself, and if I couldn't work up the nerve to do that I know I'd AT LEAST choke on my own vomit if I let my eyes stray to my window.
I'm really sick of this argument frankly. What makes you think how someone dresses or how much make up they wear has anything to do with their personality? A friend of mine was really self-conscious going through school and recently got into very good shape and now she wears clothes the reveal her midrif and usually tightly fitting jeans or shorts because she is proud of the way she looks now. She is very traditional in her dating habits, completely nice, and smarter than me (which is very rare). So saying someone is a dumb slut just because of the way they dress is so shallow it's not even funny. It takes work to look that good and sometimes it isn't for the reasons you think it's for, so don't jump to conclusions.
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<!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Aug 4 2003, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Aug 4 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm really sick of this argument frankly. What makes you think how someone dresses or how much make up they wear has anything to do with their personality? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What a person wears is one of the few things about their appearance that a person has ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE control over, so therefore the vast majority of people dress in a way that reflects who they are as a person, if a person is a punk, they dress like one, if a person is a nerd, they dress like one, if a person is slutty, they will dress like one. It's a very simple concept.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
Thank you, AllUrHive.
I'm sorry, but thinking clothes have nothing to do with your personality is pretty stupid.
This reminds me of that one black comedian...very funny...will have name here once someone tells me-
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"See, women, were sorry that we try and ogle you and act like your a ****, but when you dress like one, its a bit hard"
He starts to impersonate:"Yo, I'd like to get some of that a**" "Well I- just because I dress a certain way, doesn't mean I am that way!"
"See, thats like me dressing like a police officer."
He starts to impersonate:"Oh officer, my baby, some hooligan took my baby, he's over there, go get hi-" "Well I-just because I dress a certain way, doesn't mean I am that way!"
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See what I mean? Go on comedy central, its much funnier when you watch it. I also like the joke about the little baby in the ghetto...
<!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 4 2003, 12:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 4 2003, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Aug 4 2003, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Aug 4 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm really sick of this argument frankly. What makes you think how someone dresses or how much make up they wear has anything to do with their personality? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What a person wears is one of the few things about their appearance that a person has ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE control over, so therefore the vast majority of people dress in a way that reflects who they are as a person, if a person is a punk, they dress like one, if a person is a nerd, they dress like one, if a person is slutty, they will dress like one. It's a very simple concept. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok man just because YOU think a person does anything for a specific reason doesn't mean that they do. People are individuals and you can't just lump everyone into the same category especially not based on your personal beliefs. Just because you think people should dress a certain way doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree with you, and like I said if you judge people by their clothes your about as deep as a puddle. I like gaming and computers, I don't go around with a t-shirt that says Uber-"elite" on it, I don't wear any of that Trogdor nerdy gear because I think it's stupid, that's my personal opinion of it, I don't see someone with a "nerdy" shirt and say woah that guy must be all about gaming and a complete nerd. If you have to make statements about your personality with your clothing you are seriously lacking in social skills. Also I don't know if your sexually repressed or what but your blatent narrow mindedness is actually starting to irritate me becuase I am personally aquainted with a person that proves your theory wrong.
I don't think you know much about slutty girls either because there are plenty of girls that like to present themselves as perfectly innocent that are complete hores.
<!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 4 2003, 12:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 4 2003, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Aug 4 2003, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Aug 4 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm really sick of this argument frankly. What makes you think how someone dresses or how much make up they wear has anything to do with their personality? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What a person wears is one of the few things about their appearance that a person has ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE control over, so therefore the vast majority of people dress in a way that reflects who they are as a person, if a person is a punk, they dress like one, if a person is a nerd, they dress like one, if a person is slutty, they will dress like one. It's a very simple concept. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Now now dude, don't go throwing people in pigeonholes here man.
As to this whole matter, it doesn't bother me. Yeah, personally i think it looks dumb, but who cares, it's their decision, if they want to dress that way it's their decision, just if they <i>do</i> dress that way and they get ridiculed or insulted for it, they've just got to deal with it. The world isn't perfect, just shut up and stop making it worse for people
I will say that I agree with the original poster on the entertainment industry because they do present people in an unrealstic light. The sheer number of attractive people vs. unnatractive people on TV is silly, and aside from they way they look most TV shows have people re-inacting skinimax softcore porn on primetime. This is a problem because it's completely out of context, if somone sees that person on the street they could ask them, "Hey are you really like that?" if they see them on TV that's not an option.
So to the people talking about slutty girls, if you think they are slutty solely on the way they dress that's one thing but if you see them rubbing themselves all over almost complete strangers than you have more right to do so.
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
edited August 2003
<!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Aug 4 2003, 12:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Aug 4 2003, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok man just because YOU think a person does anything for a specific reason doesn't mean that they do. People are individuals and you can't just lump everyone into the same category especially not based on your personal beliefs. Just because you think people should dress a certain way doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree with you, and like I said if you judge people by their clothes your about as deep as a puddle. I like gaming and computers, I don't go around with a t-shirt that says Uber-"elite" on it, I don't wear any of that Trogdor nerdy gear because I think it's stupid, that's my personal opinion of it, I don't see someone with a "nerdy" shirt and say woah that guy must be all about gaming and a complete nerd. If you have to make statements about your personality with your clothing you are seriously lacking in social skills. Also I don't know if your sexually repressed or what but your blatent narrow mindedness is actually starting to irritate me becuase I am personally aquainted with a person that proves your theory wrong.
I don't think you know much about slutty girls either because there are plenty of girls that like to present themselves as perfectly innocent that are complete hores. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Alright, I'm not saying that this is true in alll cases, I was simply trying to answer your question as to why people think that the way people dress is the way they are, and that's because for most people the way they dress is the way they are. When someone dresses, they are, whether they know it or not, trying to make a statement to the world. In the case of some people (like the slutty people who dress innocently) they are making a conscious(spallign?) effort to misslead, when someone dresses in skimpy clothes they are saying "Look at me, I have skin" this could be because they are proud of what they have, but usually it is just a cry for attention and to be lusted after. For some people (such as yourself if your description is correct) they try to make it seem as if they don't care what they wear, and I'm not saying that it isn't an admireable trait, but it is, in and of itself, a statement, one which you have in your own words stressed as such. I myself dress like my personality, I wear cloths that are unkempt, kinda nerdish, and funny, just like my personality. Often I do not find myself doing that on purpose, that's just what I want to wear because it is "me".
I don't know where you are getting my "sexual repression" out of this, I'm honestly mystiffied as to how you have come to that conclusion. I never said "hey you, people who wear skimpy clothes, be more shameful!", I don't really have a problem with people doing that, but I don't prefer that in my women, and I certainly don't have much respect for anyone who treats their body like a possesion like that.
I think it may have been your comment about throwing up if you saw a hooters girl. I never said I don't care about the way I dress so don't go jumping to conclusions that I'm out to pull the cool "I'm a nihlist" card. I do care about how my clothes look because I work, and sometimes socialize in an enviorment where that sort of thing matters. I buy and wear clothes I like, It's simple as that, I have DKNY and Clauborne clothes and I have Anime clothes, I don't wear my political/social/philosophical ideas like some kind of resume. I expect people to talk to me if they want to find out about me, for all I know I could look like a complete a-hole, I don't want to be judged solely on how I look, period.
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
Listen, I'm not trying to judge you or anything, I've never seen you before, and I don't know you. I'm just telling you how things are, that people look like how they act most of the time. That's just how things go.
And as for the Hooters girls, I simply find most Hooters girls I've ever seen to be butt-ugly. Sure they got boobs, but you have to look above the neckline at some point, right?
Girls are entitled to wear whatever they want to wear. If a girl wants to wear tight and skimpy clothes then fine for her. If you don't like that, then don't look at them and don't watch some subject pertaining to it.
But sometimes it is really unavoidable and yes it is the 21st century right, eh? Things just get skimpier and skimpier and thats what the *MEDIA* (God curse those fellows) pumps to teenagers. So teenagers in turn think that it is normal/cool to look hot-**** for guys. So don't blame yourself if you think that this whole skimpy clothing fashion is ***, blame the media/advertisement.
No, actually don't entirely blame the media. Usually the type of clothes one wears is influenced by family, friends, media, personality, and a whole conglomerate of things.
It really is the luck of the draw, whether your attractive, avg, or ugly. Everyone goes through a period of self-acceptance, and a lot of these girls that wear skimpy clothes, im sure, are going through different phases and will wise up to the real ideals of life someday maybe.
The ideals of life that the media sets forth is mainly focused on power, wealth, and beauty. But let me tell you, a life of serving others, a life of humbleness, and a life of being who you are for what you are and using yourself in a manner to benefit mankind is a lot worthwhile than being an actor or what not.
I mean, its pretty obvious that most rich, powerful, and beautiful aren't happy right?
I really don't mind watching girls dress really sexy, as long as there beautiful, and I mean who doesn't? Yes, beautiful girls are so intoxicating and argghhh. But really, I don't care that much about these beautiful girls, because we all grow ugly in the end and death is the price for our mortality.
Go camping for 5 days and get away from the world, and enjoy God's awesome nature. It's quite relaxing..
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
Ok, while Kida, I can mostly agree with you, there are a few spots where you and dr. d I think have this "I don't give a flying f***" attitude, which frankly, is what led to all of this slutty clothing.
I mean, what is a guy to think if he's on his way to school, and he sees a girl walking infront of him, her **** half-hanging out, and its not against the rules? He's gonna drool. But at the same time, a girl would have to be STUPID not to think that people are gonna call her a slut because of this. Its ignorance that has girls dress like this- their ignorant of the fact that the media is based around mostly men, and many of them try and get as much sex into everything as possible, and because these days advertising is everywhere, its hard to get away from it. But seriously- and I actually did this yesterday, just as a test. I met one of my friends, a girl that I can always be truthful with. We went out, had some fun, I took a few pics, and we both went to our seperate homes.
Well, later that same day, I showed up at her house witha picture of a girl in these quite sick poses. Well, it turns out, and I told her this, that I took a girl in a VERY small bikini(I wasn't looking at porn, just did it for this, because I really wanted to see), and I stuck her in these clothes, and luckily, they were in the same position, making the overlapping VERY easy.
Well, when she saw them, I asked her "What would you call this girl?" she said a slut. I told her all it was was her clothes on another girl's body. She now understands what I mean.
I don't wanna bring my religion into this, but this is a place where its right(and don't ask me to find the verse, its in matthew or luke. Find it for yourself. And also note this isn't a quote)
"Sure, men can just look away when you are dressed to flaunt your body. But realise, that as it is a sin to bring lust and covet in your mind, that it is also a sin to make anyone do this, because some things are just too powerful for the average human mind."
That may have not been a quote, but thats really close to it. And frankly, its true. That there is the WHOLE REASON I think girls should not dress skimpy, its because it makes you SEEM like a slut, make the guy THINK your a slut, and makes other women ALSO think your a slut. None of which are good.
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Ok I am done with this bull.
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME HOW I SHOULD DRESS?! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO IGNORANTLY BELIEVE THAT PERSONALITY IS INTRINSICALLY AND ABSOLUTELY LINKED TO HOW YOU DRESS? WHO ARE YOU TO PLACE YOUR MORAL STANDARDS ABOVE MINE?! You Arrogant, Ignorant, Righteous Idiots.
Cause a person dresses slutty, wears black, wears football jerseys, wear alot of bling bling, wears short skirts, wears bikinis in winter, wear designer clothes, wears rags, whatever. It doesnt make them less of a person. It doesnt make them less morally pure. All it does it alter your perception of them in your bigoted mind.
The problem doesnt lie in the way people present themselves, it lies in the shallowness of people not capable of looking beyond this.
All this thread is doing is perpetuating stereotypes and peddling flawed moral standards.
I cant see the difference between judging someone based on their clothes, to judging someone based on the colour of their skin. How dare you be righteous about this issue. How dare you! HOW DARE YOU!</span></span>
I wouldn't touch those slutty dressing girls. I don't know where they've been. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't like the slut look myself.
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>And I can read just fine, thank you.</span></span>
AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
edited August 2003
<!--QuoteBegin--Sp@ceM0nkey+Aug 4 2003, 09:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sp@ceM0nkey @ Aug 4 2003, 09:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Ok I am done with this bull.
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME HOW I SHOULD DRESS?! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO IGNORANTLY BELIEVE THAT PERSONALITY IS INTRINSICALLY AND ABSOLUTELY LINKED TO HOW YOU DRESS? WHO ARE YOU TO PLACE YOUR MORAL STANDARDS ABOVE MINE?! You Arrogant, Ignorant, Righteous idiots.
Cause a person dresses slutty, wears black, wears football jerseys, wear alot of bling bling, wears short skirts, wears bikinis in winter, wear designer clothes, wears rags, whatever. It doesnt make them less of a person. It doesnt make them less morally pure. All it does it alter your perception of them in your bigoted mind.
The problem doesnt lie in the way people present themselves, it lies in the shallowness of people not capable of looking beyond this.
All this thread is doing is perpetuating stereotypes and peddling flawed moral standards.
I cant see the difference of judging someone based on their clothes, to judging someone based on the colour of their skin. How dare you be righteous about this issue. How dare you! HOW DARE YOU!</span></span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's an observation. You wanted this point to be noticed, right? So what did you do? You changed the way it LOOKED. You have proven my point yourself. Even though it was a very concious decision, you changed the way your post LOOKED to make it stand out, seem "different" convey the fact that you are very angry.
Now to the rebuttel: I myself, personally, have not told anyone not to dress the way they do. If you want to , go ahead. No skin off my nose. Also, if you want to practice your own morals, go ahead. I'll accept that, I won't agree with you and I may not respect you for it, but I will accept it.
Alright, let's go along with your idea that what a person wears has absolutely nothing to do with who they are. Then how do you explain all the mixed and varied styles? And how do you explain how people who are alike dress alike? I know a lot of kids that most people would comsider "punks" they listen to punks music, go see punk bands, act like punks, and hang out with other "punks". How do thay dress? Like punks. I also know a lot of kids that most people would consider "goth"(although I like the term "dark-kid" better, so I will use that term henceforth) they listen to dark music, they act like dark-kids, they hang out with other dark-kids. How do they dress? Like dark-kids. I'm not saying that this is ALL that there is to them, but this is their main trait, and it is what the choose to show to the world. They dress that way for the express purpose of being noticed as what the are, be punk, or dark-kid, or preppy, or nerd, or slut.
I am not judging these peopel as people, merely trying to figure out their personality based on what they are saying to the world with their clothing choice, which is a legitimate form of communication. And once again, I know that there are exceptions to the rule.
And as for the difference between judging someone based on their skin and judging based on their clothes, the difference is that you can CONTROL what clothes you wear, you can't control your skin color.
Facts, which I will not dispute and which I believe are beyond despute: - You can consciously control what you wear - Because this is a conscious choice, it doesn reflect on personality.
My only contention is thus. Your personality is not defined by what you wear. To believe that a person is the sum of their clothes is wrong. You cannot judge someone solely on their clothes. Its impossible. There are soo many exceptions that it makes in unteniable. I know sluts who dress conservatively. I know prudes, who dress slutty. One does not absolutely imply the other.
You can make generalisation however. You can say people who dress slutty tend to be sluts. But you have to be conscious this is not true for all cases.
If you do believe its true for all cases, and you make a moral judgement on that basis, then I find that offensive. And I take issue with that.
I dont have time to go into deep detail. I am at work. But alot of factors go into how you dress, and many have been covered in this thread.
Soceitial influences, community, home life, the media, your wealth, your education, your likes, your dislikes, your hobbies. Yes many of us dress to reflect who we are. But that doesnt give you an untouchable right to judge us for that.
That said. I prefer to wear long sleave button up designer shirts, long pants, and if i can get away with it, expensive leather soled leather shoes. I do this, because it makes me look attractive, and they feel very comfy. Though people could infer that I am a yuppie, or **** or something else ridiculous. And to some extent that would be true. (note: i am not **** though).
How you dress is reflects on who you are but doesnt define you. To judge people solely on how they dress is wrong.
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Anyone seen that girl bang called tatu the reason they were popular was because of their "love" scenes in their videos, this obviously made men buy it.
No apparent reason for it. If you think so, report it and see if the mods agree.
Edit: Yo sig man, yo SIG! To big man, to BIG!
luckily this happened to Denmark yet, or maybe i just have to go outside more, well i don't remember anyone dressing as wh0res, teh only "prob" i've stumbled upon is those shirts where you can see some of the belly, and i only remember fatties wearing those :/
2. Girl dresses hotter for guys.
3. Friends see girl, feel need to compete.
Its kinda like clothing capitalism.
And yeah, sometimes more=hotter. But thongs = hottest. :-)
i wonder if living in NY has anything to do with it.
2. Girl dresses hotter for guys.
3. Friends see girl, feel need to compete.
Its kinda like clothing capitalism.
And yeah, sometimes more=hotter. But thongs = hottest. :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Clothing capitalism, I like it.
And as fo sheezy said, hot girls in pajamas = whoa. I have stories, but... well... I'm not sharing. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I know paedophiles are sick ppl, but they are just basically ppl like us who don't mind going that little bit further!
These girls don't wear skirts, they wear belts, and they don't wear tops, they wear corsits!
Would I go out with one of these girls? NO WAY, I'd be embarassed to walk the street next to em.
Give me a girl whos good looking but at the same time dosen't dress like a wh0re and also has a good personality <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
To the bottem line, AMEN!
What a person wears is one of the few things about their appearance that a person has ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE control over, so therefore the vast majority of people dress in a way that reflects who they are as a person, if a person is a punk, they dress like one, if a person is a nerd, they dress like one, if a person is slutty, they will dress like one. It's a very simple concept.
I'm sorry, but thinking clothes have nothing to do with your personality is pretty stupid.
This reminds me of that one black comedian...very funny...will have name here once someone tells me-
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"See, women, were sorry that we try and ogle you and act like your a ****, but when you dress like one, its a bit hard"
He starts to impersonate:"Yo, I'd like to get some of that a**"
"Well I- just because I dress a certain way, doesn't mean I am that way!"
"See, thats like me dressing like a police officer."
He starts to impersonate:"Oh officer, my baby, some hooligan took my baby, he's over there, go get hi-"
"Well I-just because I dress a certain way, doesn't mean I am that way!"
=======
See what I mean? Go on comedy central, its much funnier when you watch it. I also like the joke about the little baby in the ghetto...
What a person wears is one of the few things about their appearance that a person has ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE control over, so therefore the vast majority of people dress in a way that reflects who they are as a person, if a person is a punk, they dress like one, if a person is a nerd, they dress like one, if a person is slutty, they will dress like one. It's a very simple concept. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok man just because YOU think a person does anything for a specific reason doesn't mean that they do. People are individuals and you can't just lump everyone into the same category especially not based on your personal beliefs. Just because you think people should dress a certain way doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree with you, and like I said if you judge people by their clothes your about as deep as a puddle. I like gaming and computers, I don't go around with a t-shirt that says Uber-"elite" on it, I don't wear any of that Trogdor nerdy gear because I think it's stupid, that's my personal opinion of it, I don't see someone with a "nerdy" shirt and say woah that guy must be all about gaming and a complete nerd. If you have to make statements about your personality with your clothing you are seriously lacking in social skills. Also I don't know if your sexually repressed or what but your blatent narrow mindedness is actually starting to irritate me becuase I am personally aquainted with a person that proves your theory wrong.
I don't think you know much about slutty girls either because there are plenty of girls that like to present themselves as perfectly innocent that are complete hores.
What a person wears is one of the few things about their appearance that a person has ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE control over, so therefore the vast majority of people dress in a way that reflects who they are as a person, if a person is a punk, they dress like one, if a person is a nerd, they dress like one, if a person is slutty, they will dress like one. It's a very simple concept. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now now dude, don't go throwing people in pigeonholes here man.
As to this whole matter, it doesn't bother me. Yeah, personally i think it looks dumb, but who cares, it's their decision, if they want to dress that way it's their decision, just if they <i>do</i> dress that way and they get ridiculed or insulted for it, they've just got to deal with it. The world isn't perfect, just shut up and stop making it worse for people
So to the people talking about slutty girls, if you think they are slutty solely on the way they dress that's one thing but if you see them rubbing themselves all over almost complete strangers than you have more right to do so.
I don't think you know much about slutty girls either because there are plenty of girls that like to present themselves as perfectly innocent that are complete hores. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright, I'm not saying that this is true in alll cases, I was simply trying to answer your question as to why people think that the way people dress is the way they are, and that's because for most people the way they dress is the way they are. When someone dresses, they are, whether they know it or not, trying to make a statement to the world. In the case of some people (like the slutty people who dress innocently) they are making a conscious(spallign?) effort to misslead, when someone dresses in skimpy clothes they are saying "Look at me, I have skin" this could be because they are proud of what they have, but usually it is just a cry for attention and to be lusted after. For some people (such as yourself if your description is correct) they try to make it seem as if they don't care what they wear, and I'm not saying that it isn't an admireable trait, but it is, in and of itself, a statement, one which you have in your own words stressed as such. I myself dress like my personality, I wear cloths that are unkempt, kinda nerdish, and funny, just like my personality. Often I do not find myself doing that on purpose, that's just what I want to wear because it is "me".
I don't know where you are getting my "sexual repression" out of this, I'm honestly mystiffied as to how you have come to that conclusion. I never said "hey you, people who wear skimpy clothes, be more shameful!", I don't really have a problem with people doing that, but I don't prefer that in my women, and I certainly don't have much respect for anyone who treats their body like a possesion like that.
And as for the Hooters girls, I simply find most Hooters girls I've ever seen to be butt-ugly. Sure they got boobs, but you have to look above the neckline at some point, right?
But sometimes it is really unavoidable and yes it is the 21st century right, eh? Things just get skimpier and skimpier and thats what the *MEDIA* (God curse those fellows) pumps to teenagers. So teenagers in turn think that it is normal/cool to look hot-**** for guys. So don't blame yourself if you think that this whole skimpy clothing fashion is ***, blame the media/advertisement.
No, actually don't entirely blame the media. Usually the type of clothes one wears is influenced by family, friends, media, personality, and a whole conglomerate of things.
It really is the luck of the draw, whether your attractive, avg, or ugly. Everyone goes through a period of self-acceptance, and a lot of these girls that wear skimpy clothes, im sure, are going through different phases and will wise up to the real ideals of life someday maybe.
The ideals of life that the media sets forth is mainly focused on power, wealth, and beauty. But let me tell you, a life of serving others, a life of humbleness, and a life of being who you are for what you are and using yourself in a manner to benefit mankind is a lot worthwhile than being an actor or what not.
I mean, its pretty obvious that most rich, powerful, and beautiful aren't happy right?
I really don't mind watching girls dress really sexy, as long as there beautiful, and I mean who doesn't? Yes, beautiful girls are so intoxicating and argghhh. But really, I don't care that much about these beautiful girls, because we all grow ugly in the end and death is the price for our mortality.
Go camping for 5 days and get away from the world, and enjoy God's awesome nature. It's quite relaxing..
I mean, what is a guy to think if he's on his way to school, and he sees a girl walking infront of him, her **** half-hanging out, and its not against the rules? He's gonna drool. But at the same time, a girl would have to be STUPID not to think that people are gonna call her a slut because of this. Its ignorance that has girls dress like this- their ignorant of the fact that the media is based around mostly men, and many of them try and get as much sex into everything as possible, and because these days advertising is everywhere, its hard to get away from it. But seriously- and I actually did this yesterday, just as a test. I met one of my friends, a girl that I can always be truthful with. We went out, had some fun, I took a few pics, and we both went to our seperate homes.
Well, later that same day, I showed up at her house witha picture of a girl in these quite sick poses. Well, it turns out, and I told her this, that I took a girl in a VERY small bikini(I wasn't looking at porn, just did it for this, because I really wanted to see), and I stuck her in these clothes, and luckily, they were in the same position, making the overlapping VERY easy.
Well, when she saw them, I asked her "What would you call this girl?" she said a slut. I told her all it was was her clothes on another girl's body. She now understands what I mean.
I don't wanna bring my religion into this, but this is a place where its right(and don't ask me to find the verse, its in matthew or luke. Find it for yourself. And also note this isn't a quote)
"Sure, men can just look away when you are dressed to flaunt your body. But realise, that as it is a sin to bring lust and covet in your mind, that it is also a sin to make anyone do this, because some things are just too powerful for the average human mind."
That may have not been a quote, but thats really close to it. And frankly, its true. That there is the WHOLE REASON I think girls should not dress skimpy, its because it makes you SEEM like a slut, make the guy THINK your a slut, and makes other women ALSO think your a slut. None of which are good.
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME HOW I SHOULD DRESS?! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO IGNORANTLY BELIEVE THAT PERSONALITY IS INTRINSICALLY AND ABSOLUTELY LINKED TO HOW YOU DRESS? WHO ARE YOU TO PLACE YOUR MORAL STANDARDS ABOVE MINE?! You Arrogant, Ignorant, Righteous Idiots.
Cause a person dresses slutty, wears black, wears football jerseys, wear alot of bling bling, wears short skirts, wears bikinis in winter, wear designer clothes, wears rags, whatever. It doesnt make them less of a person. It doesnt make them less morally pure. All it does it alter your perception of them in your bigoted mind.
The problem doesnt lie in the way people present themselves, it lies in the shallowness of people not capable of looking beyond this.
All this thread is doing is perpetuating stereotypes and peddling flawed moral standards.
I cant see the difference between judging someone based on their clothes, to judging someone based on the colour of their skin. How dare you be righteous about this issue. How dare you! HOW DARE YOU!</span></span>
I don't like the slut look myself.
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>And I can read just fine, thank you.</span></span>
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME HOW I SHOULD DRESS?! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO IGNORANTLY BELIEVE THAT PERSONALITY IS INTRINSICALLY AND ABSOLUTELY LINKED TO HOW YOU DRESS? WHO ARE YOU TO PLACE YOUR MORAL STANDARDS ABOVE MINE?! You Arrogant, Ignorant, Righteous idiots.
Cause a person dresses slutty, wears black, wears football jerseys, wear alot of bling bling, wears short skirts, wears bikinis in winter, wear designer clothes, wears rags, whatever. It doesnt make them less of a person. It doesnt make them less morally pure. All it does it alter your perception of them in your bigoted mind.
The problem doesnt lie in the way people present themselves, it lies in the shallowness of people not capable of looking beyond this.
All this thread is doing is perpetuating stereotypes and peddling flawed moral standards.
I cant see the difference of judging someone based on their clothes, to judging someone based on the colour of their skin. How dare you be righteous about this issue. How dare you! HOW DARE YOU!</span></span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's an observation. You wanted this point to be noticed, right? So what did you do? You changed the way it LOOKED. You have proven my point yourself. Even though it was a very concious decision, you changed the way your post LOOKED to make it stand out, seem "different" convey the fact that you are very angry.
Now to the rebuttel: I myself, personally, have not told anyone not to dress the way they do. If you want to , go ahead. No skin off my nose. Also, if you want to practice your own morals, go ahead. I'll accept that, I won't agree with you and I may not respect you for it, but I will accept it.
Alright, let's go along with your idea that what a person wears has absolutely nothing to do with who they are. Then how do you explain all the mixed and varied styles? And how do you explain how people who are alike dress alike? I know a lot of kids that most people would comsider "punks" they listen to punks music, go see punk bands, act like punks, and hang out with other "punks". How do thay dress? Like punks. I also know a lot of kids that most people would consider "goth"(although I like the term "dark-kid" better, so I will use that term henceforth) they listen to dark music, they act like dark-kids, they hang out with other dark-kids. How do they dress? Like dark-kids. I'm not saying that this is ALL that there is to them, but this is their main trait, and it is what the choose to show to the world. They dress that way for the express purpose of being noticed as what the are, be punk, or dark-kid, or preppy, or nerd, or slut.
I am not judging these peopel as people, merely trying to figure out their personality based on what they are saying to the world with their clothing choice, which is a legitimate form of communication. And once again, I know that there are exceptions to the rule.
And as for the difference between judging someone based on their skin and judging based on their clothes, the difference is that you can CONTROL what clothes you wear, you can't control your skin color.
- You can consciously control what you wear
- Because this is a conscious choice, it doesn reflect on personality.
My only contention is thus. Your personality is not defined by what you wear. To believe that a person is the sum of their clothes is wrong. You cannot judge someone solely on their clothes. Its impossible. There are soo many exceptions that it makes in unteniable. I know sluts who dress conservatively. I know prudes, who dress slutty. One does not absolutely imply the other.
You can make generalisation however. You can say people who dress slutty tend to be sluts. But you have to be conscious this is not true for all cases.
If you do believe its true for all cases, and you make a moral judgement on that basis, then I find that offensive. And I take issue with that.
I dont have time to go into deep detail. I am at work. But alot of factors go into how you dress, and many have been covered in this thread.
Soceitial influences, community, home life, the media, your wealth, your education, your likes, your dislikes, your hobbies. Yes many of us dress to reflect who we are. But that doesnt give you an untouchable right to judge us for that.
That said. I prefer to wear long sleave button up designer shirts, long pants, and if i can get away with it, expensive leather soled leather shoes. I do this, because it makes me look attractive, and they feel very comfy. Though people could infer that I am a yuppie, or **** or something else ridiculous. And to some extent that would be true. (note: i am not **** though).
How you dress is reflects on who you are but doesnt define you. To judge people solely on how they dress is wrong.
Do you see where I am coming from?