Best Clan In The World?

kavasakavasa Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11889Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">OMG POTENTIAL DRAMA</div> To start with, let's <i>try</i> to keep this civil.

First, some caveats. If you're not in a clan, and you haven't scrimmed pretty extensively, please realize that you have very little to add. Second, there is of course no way for anyone to have scrimmed everyone ever. Third, [GoM] still hasn't scrimmed HAM, and so of course I have no direct basis for comparison. We <i>have</i> scrimmed sYn a few times, and sYn tied HAM, so for the purposes of this thread we'll assume they're relatively equivalent. Even if one's better, it's certainly not obvious.

This is idle speculation done to pass a little time, don't take it too seriously.

So, who's my vote? Well, it depends. The European clan, the bacon men, are in my experience far and away the most incredible clan I've yet seen. On the other hand, when we scrimmed them, I will say that we were all pretty close to convinced that they hack, with stuff that looked like wallhack and speedhack, not just aimbot (some of the top marines that're legit are still almost indistinguishable from a bot in their aim, you have to pick up other cues).

Am I saying they hack for certain? No, but I'm suspicious.

That said, would I put forth any other candidates? Nope. There's a very small top tier of 4-5 clans, not all of whom I've seen play each other and not all of whom I've played real extensively. I can't in good conscience distinguish between them and say one or the other is definitely better.

So, whee. Discuss, nublets.
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  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members
    Anti-inflammatory goo needs to be spread on this soon-to-be mess.
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited September 2003
    All I can really add is I owe all my experience with NS to [GoM] and The ArsClan server. Best clan and server, ever....

    Wait, I'm the leader of this one now, oh ok, they are still the best though.

    [Edit] I <b>learned</b> all my experience from them, and that server. Used to play on it 24/7 until I started my own clan and servers.[/Edit]
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    Orion Strategic Stormtroopers (OSS)
  • Skillzilla1Skillzilla1 Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16282Members
  • Jim_has_SkillzJim_has_Skillz Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12475Members, Constellation
    OMg, yeah, OSS is the best clan evar. No one will evar be able to beat them! WHO MUST WE SEND AGAINST THEIR MASSIVE FISTS TO TAKE THE POUNDING.
  • wRavenwRaven Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6482Members
    [No C-D] may not have the skill, but they have the numbers!

    Also clan (1)Player is second, but as clan [No C-D] they have more numbers than skill.
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--wRaven+Sep 18 2003, 01:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wRaven @ Sep 18 2003, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also clan (1)Player is second, but as clan [No C-D] they have more numbers than skill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Orion Strategic Stormtroopers (OSS) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh boy...
  • DrFuriousDrFurious Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10445Members
    This thread needs more Benny Hill Theme
  • KillaBiteKillaBite Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9733Members
    Yah I've seen (1) clan around a lot they seem to be the best. (1)NSPlayer and (1)Player seem to have some mad skillz.
  • ElvenThiefElvenThief aka Elven Thief (ex. NS Programmer) Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8754Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Mmmboy. Just a friendly reminder to keep it clean. Although topics like this are pretty much 100% opinionated and half of the opinions will probably be uneducated <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Have at it.
  • kavasakavasa Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11889Members, Constellation
    You're all meanies. (sad.gif)

    Rage, heh, wow. Thanks man. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Glad to know we helped you on the road to addiction.
  • LuxLux Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9078Members
    oss or ya0 gets my vote
  • elchinesetouristelchinesetourist Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17775Members
    clan TEAMMATE aka tm8

    I'm in it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    lots of luvin to to see that red run

    oops, this isn't wolfenstein <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • steamedhamssteamedhams Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10333Members, Constellation
    i would have to say my own personal constellation clan, the [STEAMEDHAM] clan, is the #1 clan in natural selection at this point.
  • Anonymous_CowardAnonymous_Coward Join Date: 2003-08-15 Member: 19768Members
    "So modest!"

    Something that little alien must have said at some point seems to apply here. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--kavasa+Sep 18 2003, 06:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kavasa @ Sep 18 2003, 06:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To start with, let's <i>try</i> to keep this civil.

    First, some caveats. If you're not in a clan, and you haven't scrimmed pretty extensively, please realize that you have very little to add. Second, there is of course no way for anyone to have scrimmed everyone ever. Third, [GoM] still hasn't scrimmed HAM, and so of course I have no direct basis for comparison. We <i>have</i> scrimmed sYn a few times, and sYn tied HAM, so for the purposes of this thread we'll assume they're relatively equivalent. Even if one's better, it's certainly not obvious.

    This is idle speculation done to pass a little time, don't take it too seriously.

    So, who's my vote? Well, it depends. The European clan, the bacon men, are in my experience far and away the most incredible clan I've yet seen. On the other hand, when we scrimmed them, I will say that we were all pretty close to convinced that they hack, with stuff that looked like wallhack and speedhack, not just aimbot (some of the top marines that're legit are still almost indistinguishable from a bot in their aim, you have to pick up other cues).

    Am I saying they hack for certain? No, but I'm suspicious.

    That said, would I put forth any other candidates? Nope. There's a very small top tier of 4-5 clans, not all of whom I've seen play each other and not all of whom I've played real extensively. I can't in good conscience distinguish between them and say one or the other is definitely better.

    So, whee. Discuss, nublets. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Can't beat em, call em cheater.
  • HAMBoneHAMBone Probably the best Commander Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15139Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited September 2003
    Yeah, there's some awesome european clans. I do know that BM went 2-2 with syn the night before our match, if that helps in your little formula.

    EDIT: And I think if ns is still played competitively in 2-3 years that even the highest level of play today will probably be considered laughable.
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    A dissapointing lack of drama? :)

    Personally i don't consider .bm to be exceptional individually, they're certainly good players, but not to the 'omghax' standard. What they really have going for them though is very, very good organisation, and what appears to be an excellent comm. Both of which can make their team appear incredible when really they're just always in the right place, at the right time, with the right weapons and just enough medspam. They're definately a strong clan.

    I've done very little scrimming overseas.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--TeoH+Sep 18 2003, 04:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TeoH @ Sep 18 2003, 04:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...when really they're just always in the right place, at the right time, with the right weapons and just enough medspam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds like the perfect NS clan, to me. (:
  • CorradoCorrado Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--coil+Sep 18 2003, 08:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Sep 18 2003, 08:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--TeoH+Sep 18 2003, 04:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TeoH @ Sep 18 2003, 04:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...when really they're just always in the right place, at the right time, with the right weapons and just enough medspam. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds like the perfect NS clan, to me. (: <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Definately, my vote goes to .bm

    Organisation, great teamwork and strategies...along with some personal skill (not as good as some players, but their teamwork and strats put other clans to shame)
  • DramaKingDramaKing Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17582Banned
    syn's dead, so i say .bm, however HAM has good teamwork.
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    I must say that I personally like HAM
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DramaKing+Sep 18 2003, 06:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DramaKing @ Sep 18 2003, 06:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> syn's dead <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ah. Well that didn't take very long.

    I really don't understand the whole clan-hopping phenomenum the US and parts of the EU scenes have going. FWD has been around since 1996, and few people ever really leave the clan, they just stop playing and continue to idle in the channel :)
  • IceBaronIceBaron Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13954Members
    I dont like green eggs and HAM.
  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    SHAMPOO is betta! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • evilTurtleevilTurtle Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19178Members
    I do think that the clan im in is overlooked severly. We have tied and beat many of the top clans (in scrims of course since cal just started for 2.0) out there. The Evil clan is one of the best clans out today imho. Just wanted to put my 2cents in and let Evil be known thx.

    evil | Turtle -op- (server op)

    66.28.81.31:27015 2.01 rc2
  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--evilTurtle+Sep 18 2003, 08:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (evilTurtle @ Sep 18 2003, 08:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I do think that the clan im in is overlooked severly. We have tied and beat many of the top clans (in scrims of course since cal just started for 2.0) out there. The Evil clan is one of the best clans out today imho. Just wanted to put my 2cents in and let Evil be known thx.

    evil | Turtle -op- (server op)

    66.28.81.31:27015 2.01 rc2 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Negative.
  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    I'll never understand where people get this idea that scrims count. They don't. Scrims are to try new ideas, strats, players etc. Matches are important. That's all. If you beat a top clan in a scrim just pat yourself on the back and say good job. It probably won't happen in a match. [Thinking about this more, I guess I have a hard time with this myself, because the clan community has so few matches under it's belt ATM. I'm gonna leave this though, because scrims REALLY do mean what I said. If you constantly beat somebody in a scrim is one thing, but once is not a massive accomplishment.]

    And, because it sounds like I'm setting myself up to say something rather egotistical, I don't think of ue. (or as many people say on VoiceCom "the ew-y clan") to be one of the best. And I can't really say anything about Euro clans, and since syn is dead again..... I'll say HAM and ReD.
  • bigvinbigvin Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19653Members
    Why has no one said pandas yet? I mean, I haven't really played much vs. a lot of clans, but I remember pandas being in the top rankings. Did they die or something?
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Soberana+Sep 18 2003, 08:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Sep 18 2003, 08:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SHAMPOO is betta! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NO conditioner is better I make the hair soft!
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