Ns 1.04

ElectricSheep

<!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 26 2004, 06:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 26 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 26 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 26 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 10:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.rephive.org' target='_blank'>Under Files</a>
Since it seems some people cannot be bothered to read the entire topic here is the link to get 1.04 again.  You only need 1.0 client unless you are going to put up a server.  It is not steam compatable so you gotta have a plain ol HL install to play. HF <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, you can run 1.04 on Steam.. Quite well, too. Its just the plain fact that most people haven't bothered trying. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Everytime it says that steam cant read the client.dll, Ive tried reinstalling but nope. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either you have a bug.. or you are installing it to a folder other than "NS"
1.04 was not coded to work for any folder other than NS.. if its in another folder, noting will be found. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope just moved my ns 1.04 folder into steamapps HL and it doesnt work.

Align

Electric sheep, your ns location should look like this:
C:\blah\Steam\Steamapps\Youremail@here.lol\half-life\ns

CommunistWithAGun

<!--QuoteBegin-Align+Mar 25 2004, 11:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Mar 25 2004, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Mar 25 2004, 11:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Mar 25 2004, 11:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1.04 was probably the most fun version of all, all things considered <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not so when you were the one getting piz-owned by either any rush(this on pubs, I don't give a damn if you played on an elite pub where people would make walls out of the skulks and chomp jetpackers out of their) or any of the admittedly overpowered stuff. Like acid rocket. It would work as a 3-hive weapon with the previous damage, but as a 1-hive weapon? No...
But I really liked the lerk flight, rather than point and jump you needed to learn about how it moved, and how to change direction, etc. Plus it was faster.

Oh, and the support abilities taking all of your energy, but lasting for like 10 seconds(rather than THREE). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would respond and piz-own you, but I don't need to. There is an overwhelming amount of solid proof to back up my argument in this thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Haze

Who said acid rocket was a hive one weapon?

Haze

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=5' target='_blank'>Suggestions and Idea -- v1.04 ideas from this thread have been suggested, take a look. (Look at my other ideas too!)://Suggestions and Idea -- v1.04 ideas...ideas too!)</a>

Align

<!--QuoteBegin-Ha.ze+Mar 27 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ha.ze @ Mar 27 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who said acid rocket was a hive one weapon? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was. Blink was the 2-hive weapon.

Cj_the_Dj

yep 2 hive...i just redownloaded 1.04 and it's so friekin cool! however it sorta went a little slow (probably from a bad video card) but i think it'll go smoothly on my regular pc (which is currently broken, but has a GeForce 4 on it. not great but good)

i'm also planning to make a 1.04 server when it works! also made arrangements with a few other ppl, hope to make it a little popular to have different version servers. my friend going to canada at the end of this school year, will have 314 (i think) KBps (bytes, not bits <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->) i asked him to make a dedicated server, he said ok. sound good?

Haze

Sounds GREAT!

A_Damn_Fool

Thats really great news could you message me the IP of that server when its up so I maybe could join <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> pretty please

Invader_Scoot

<!--QuoteBegin-Cj the Dj+Mar 27 2004, 01:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cj the Dj @ Mar 27 2004, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yep 2 hive...i just redownloaded 1.04 and it's so friekin cool! however it sorta went a little slow (probably from a bad video card) but i think it'll go smoothly on my regular pc (which is currently broken, but has a GeForce 4 on it. not great but good)

i'm also planning to make a 1.04 server when it works! also made arrangements with a few other ppl, hope to make it a little popular to have different version servers. my friend going to canada at the end of this school year, will have 314 (i think) KBps (bytes, not bits <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->) i asked him to make a dedicated server, he said ok. sound good? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This will probably be the at least the 2nd time that someone will host a 1.04 server. I was here in those other times, and each time, it would always tell me the server was running an older protocol then my client. Even though I was running plain old ns 1.0 and wanted to connect to the 1.04 server it said that. If that happens again someone will die.

Align

Ah, some stuff was changed in 1.02 I think, so even clients had to get that one.

The_Flying_Fish

k when this 1.04 server goes up PM me. I'll lag like crap for trying to play on some canadian server or what ever but I don't care. /me remembers crashing all of cogs' servers with laser mines.

BTW don't say "COGS?" because its australian servers.

ANeM

<!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 26 2004, 06:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 26 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 26 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 26 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 10:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.rephive.org' target='_blank'>Under Files</a>
Since it seems some people cannot be bothered to read the entire topic here is the link to get 1.04 again.  You only need 1.0 client unless you are going to put up a server.  It is not steam compatable so you gotta have a plain ol HL install to play. HF <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, you can run 1.04 on Steam.. Quite well, too. Its just the plain fact that most people haven't bothered trying. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Everytime it says that steam cant read the client.dll, Ive tried reinstalling but nope. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either you have a bug.. or you are installing it to a folder other than "NS"
1.04 was not coded to work for any folder other than NS.. if its in another folder, noting will be found. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope just moved my ns 1.04 folder into steamapps HL and it doesnt work. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That generally causes problem with any mod. Steam just doesn't like mods that were on WON.. no clue why, but it doesn't. You'll probably have to do a fresh install into the steam HL folder..

ElectricSheep

<!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 28 2004, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 28 2004, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 09:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 26 2004, 06:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 26 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 01:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Mar 26 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Mar 26 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Mar 26 2004, 10:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Mar 26 2004, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.rephive.org' target='_blank'>Under Files</a>
Since it seems some people cannot be bothered to read the entire topic here is the link to get 1.04 again.  You only need 1.0 client unless you are going to put up a server.  It is not steam compatable so you gotta have a plain ol HL install to play. HF <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, you can run 1.04 on Steam.. Quite well, too. Its just the plain fact that most people haven't bothered trying. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Everytime it says that steam cant read the client.dll, Ive tried reinstalling but nope. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either you have a bug.. or you are installing it to a folder other than "NS"
1.04 was not coded to work for any folder other than NS.. if its in another folder, noting will be found. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope just moved my ns 1.04 folder into steamapps HL and it doesnt work. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That generally causes problem with any mod. Steam just doesn't like mods that were on WON.. no clue why, but it doesn't. You'll probably have to do a fresh install into the steam HL folder.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey it works! Thank you, there is even a dedicated server, Electric Nase.

Cj_the_Dj

i'm setting up a server in like 2 weeks when my dad comes back from a trip (not official, and i'm not making any promises!). my friend will be in canada in like 2 months <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i'm located in the middle east currently, so UK ping will be 200-300 (on dsl) and if ur in asia, ur in luck. u'll get 100-150. australia? dunno, maybe also 200-300...

on this pc, i got 1.04 and i tried putting the amx plugin for /stuck...for some reason, it goes to desktop everytime i make a server...maybe if i make a dedicated server it'll work? i'll try it now. from what i've read, playing ns 1.0x without the /stuck command will be hell.

BTW, how does the old fade blink work???

Umbraed_Monkey

Make sure you have an awesome cpu to support the load.

The trick to old blink is to crouch-jump before using it. Once you have jumped, point the cursor to where you want to be, if everything works out, you should teleport there instantaneously.

Forlorn

Nothing.

Cj_the_Dj

<!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+Mar 29 2004, 06:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Mar 29 2004, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Make sure you have an awesome cpu to support the load.

The trick to old blink is to crouch-jump before using it. Once you have jumped, point the cursor to where you want to be, if everything works out, you should teleport there instantaneously. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ahaha, how awesome are we talkin about here?

Diablo_fx

<!--QuoteBegin-Cj the Dj+Mar 29 2004, 03:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cj the Dj @ Mar 29 2004, 03:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+Mar 29 2004, 06:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Mar 29 2004, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Make sure you have an awesome cpu to support the load.

The trick to old blink is to crouch-jump before using it. Once you have jumped, point the cursor to where you want to be, if everything works out, you should teleport there instantaneously. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ahaha, how awesome are we talkin about here? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
very good! 2gz+ for 16 players.. lol

Cj_the_Dj

ahhhh....u sure? i got a intel 1.7, 512 mb ram. think it'll go?

if it goes a little slow on my machine, will it go slow on everyone elses? (if it just slow down my comp, then i don't mind leaving it on during me sleep....)

BizZy_9mm_Messiah

I loved how the skulks would try to hide on the walls but you could see them sticking out because they would look like they were walking on the ground.

Diablo_fx

I dont realy like 3.0. 2.0 was okay, but 1.04 was super good. If they could just have fixed the bugs instead of a new ugly game <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

good stuff -

* 1-2 gorges - this was great, fast res OCs usefull and teamplay. They also needed protection.

* No shotgun bugs. - i hate sparks!

* 3 hives = good game. - This is hwo it should be. fades vs ha was the best thing about this game.

* Hive restrictions - It gave meaning, and it was balanced

* Lots of lots of more teamplay

bad stuff, they should have fixed this.

* JPs insane power, they should be better then they are in 2.0-3.0... they suck waste of res.

* Marine bhop. - It's ok, and it can still be done in 2.0-3.0.

* Hitboxes... - no need to explain. tho fixing onos hitboxes would harly unbalance with 1.04 system. i mean paralyze! bye HAs...

* Bad server performance... - yuck

Sops

You know mods maybe the reason why 1.04 is brought up so much is becuase people actually like it more then 3.0... So it's not going to stop coming up until something is done with it. 1.04 steam doesn't even have to be in the main NS install, it could be an addon

Haze

Holy crap this thread is still alive!?

*clutches heart*

Petco

I like in 1.04 the one gorge thing and how aliens did teamwork. Also I liked dark maps. These things are the most that I liked alot.

bananaman

1.04 was great.
I love the 1 gorge thing, the res caps depending on how many hives, and the skulks actually getting upgrades (usually carapace). Hive dependence was better back then, things were harder for aliens when they only had one hive, no fades or onos.

Edit: I almost forgot. The onos paralyze was so much cooler than stomp. Onos' could actually do something against jetpackers.

Espresso

1.04 was better because it had a mix of fun <b>and</b> competition.

3.0 is just mainly competition.

I also liked how gorges would jump straight up with no animation, looked so cute D=.

Sops

<!--QuoteBegin-Ha.ze+May 25 2004, 08:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ha.ze @ May 25 2004, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Holy crap this thread is still alive!?

*clutches heart* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
mod got **** and locked a newer one

eh mad*

Allgoodthings

Anyone else miss the 1.4 redemption? It is useless now. Back then it was vital for the gorg and very usefull for the fade. Does anyone use it anymore?

spetznatz

The blink and only the blink.

Too many people romanticise about 1.04...I think it's because ns was fresh to us then and a new exciting experience, not the game being any better.