The Biggest Problem With Homosexuality

CommunistWithAGun

<!--QuoteBegin-WoTLanfear+Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WoTLanfear @ Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No offense Avenger, but last time I checked Sex was fun. Albiet not everyone can actually agree with me... I think. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Of course that was off topic. My apologies. I really can't say I have a lot more to add the discussion. After all it is up to the people doing their "thing"

I really don't see why it would bother you, considering it doesn't affect you in any way. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
...AGREED!





<i>About the fun part</i>


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Caboose

<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Feb 18 2005, 07:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Feb 18 2005, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-WoTLanfear+Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WoTLanfear @ Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No offense Avenger, but last time I checked Sex was fun.  Albiet not everyone can actually agree with me... I think.  <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Of course that was off topic.  My apologies.  I really can't say I have a lot more to add the discussion.  After all it is up to the people doing their "thing" 

I really don't see why it would bother you, considering it doesn't affect you in any way. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...AGREED!





<i>About the fun part</i>


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And how would you know?

X_Stickman

I can see what he's saying, though. Basically, a while ago, the mere thought of Homosexuality being so openly displayed as it is today was enough to make women fan their faces with those huge fan things and go "Oh my!" and swoon or something. So he's just wondering what could be considered ok in the future, that isn't considered ok now. You can't say "because it's wrong" because Homosexuality was "wrong" at some point in history, and it's fine now.

But I wouldn't really worry about it. Homosexuality doesn't hurt the environment, or the economy, any more than anyone else. Maybe they pass on AIDS at a higher/faster rate, but it's a pretty much contained incident, as it's unlikely (read: not impossible, i do know bisexuals exist) that much of it will pass on over to the straight side of life.

Plus think of all those "Queer Eye For A Straight Guy" type shows that have pumped millions of your respective currency into the economic market.

**EDIT**
I made all the points concerning Avenger's chief areas of complaint, so don't inform me about how i've forgotten about something or other. I probably know. As i'm brilliant and stuff.

Cyndane

Oddly enough stick, it was never actually wrong untill some uppity people back in the 1800's or so decided it was. You can thank the wonders if religion for that, but that is a completely seperate topic in and of itself.

(Read: Prior to the industrial age, homosexuality was practiced quite often in private and so very little people knew about it.)

CommunistWithAGun

<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 18 2005, 08:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 18 2005, 08:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Feb 18 2005, 07:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Feb 18 2005, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-WoTLanfear+Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (WoTLanfear @ Feb 18 2005, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No offense Avenger, but last time I checked Sex was fun.  Albiet not everyone can actually agree with me... I think.  <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Of course that was off topic.  My apologies.  I really can't say I have a lot more to add the discussion.  After all it is up to the people doing their "thing" 

I really don't see why it would bother you, considering it doesn't affect you in any way. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...AGREED!





<i>About the fun part</i>


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And how would you know? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
/spit Caboose

FilthyLarry

<!--QuoteBegin-X Stickman+Feb 18 2005, 08:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X Stickman @ Feb 18 2005, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can see what he's saying, though. Basically, a while ago, the mere thought of Homosexuality being so openly displayed as it is today was enough to make women fan their faces with those huge fan things and go "Oh my!" and swoon or something. So he's just wondering what could be considered ok in the future, that isn't considered ok now. You can't say "because it's wrong" because Homosexuality was "wrong" at some point in history, and it's fine now.

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No that's not what he's saying. He's saying that homosexuality is so bad that if we accept it it is equivalent to accepting pedophillia.

Then he tries the old tired argument of "but homosexual marriage can't produce children so why sanction it". Then we point out that heterosexuals are entitled to marry without some sort of reproduction debt that needs to be paid to society. For goodness sake we allow the elderly to marry as well.

The point here is that irresponsible sex (STD transmission) is not a function of sexual orientation, neither is attraction to children and neither is an individual's usefullness to the economy.

AvengerX

<!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+Feb 18 2005, 07:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ Feb 18 2005, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think AvengerX just can't get the girls.
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I'm not going to have sex till I'm married, and I'm not going to get married at age 17. because thats just doomed for failure (90% of the time)

and if I couldn't get the girls... wouldn't I be PRO-homo... don't ya think that makes sense? course that would require you having a logical thought be processed threw that little brain of yours. and I don't think we can count on that happening anytime soon. I have a girlfriend and she's very nice, and the only way she could be any better is if she played NS... which she doesn't... but oh well. its pretty good

Caboose

<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and if I couldn't get the girls... wouldn't I be PRO-homo... don't ya think that makes sense? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So... are you saying that people turn to homosexuality out of desperation for sex?

AvengerX

<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 19 2005, 01:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 19 2005, 01:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and if I couldn't get the girls... wouldn't I be PRO-homo... don't ya think that makes sense? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So... are you saying that people turn to homosexuality out of desperation for sex? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
that could be one reason. among others.

CommunistWithAGun

<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 19 2005, 02:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 19 2005, 02:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 19 2005, 01:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 19 2005, 01:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and if I couldn't get the girls... wouldn't I be PRO-homo... don't ya think that makes sense? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So... are you saying that people turn to homosexuality out of desperation for sex? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
that could be one reason. among others. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the biggest problem with homosexuality is everyone who talks about it either refuse to accept what it is, or are driven by their holy crusade. I read on some news site that it was a faulty chromosome that caused homosexuality, and was closely linked to the chromosome that causes pedophilia and other sexual deviances. (No, I am not saying homosexuality is worse than pedophilia, vice versa, etc)

SkulkBait

<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 19 2005, 02:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 19 2005, 02:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 19 2005, 01:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 19 2005, 01:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 19 2005, 12:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and if I couldn't get the girls... wouldn't I be PRO-homo... don't ya think that makes sense? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So... are you saying that people turn to homosexuality out of desperation for sex? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
that could be one reason. among others. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
As a man desperate for sex, I can assure you that it isn't a cause of homosexuality in any way shape or form.

CommunistWithAGun

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So... are you saying that people turn to homosexuality out of desperation for sex? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
that could be one reason. among others. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As a man desperate for sex, I can assure you that it isn't a cause of homosexuality in any way shape or form. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I haven't had sex in 2 years, don't see me throwing myself on other guys over it.

Snidely

<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Feb 19 2005, 05:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Feb 19 2005, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As a man desperate for sex, I can assure you that it isn't a cause of homosexuality in any way shape or form. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I haven't had sex in 2 years, don't see me throwing myself on other guys over it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You mean...you guys don't have any feelings for me?

No - no...I was just, just kidding around. It's just a big joke. That's all it is...

<i>*Runs out of room crying*</i>

Cronos

Just a point for clarification... Do you mean that homosexual intercourse is immoral, or homosexual relations are immoral?

I dont see the connection between accepting homosexuality and accepting peadophilia, but then again I dont see homosexuality as immoral in any case.

What must be clarified, however, is that Homosexuality is NOT new. It's been around since the Greek and Roman civilizations were at their height before the dawn of christianity and was culturally accepted if not encouraged.

It's also been found that homosexuality is present in wild animals, dolphins for example, and bonobo's.

As a final note... It was found that families with a certain gene did have a higher predisposition to homosexuality, but this same gene was connected with said families having more children on average. I'll try and look for the article when I get back from work tommorow.

lolfighter

And in the end, it all comes back to this: You say that homosexuality is a threat to society somehow (although you may word it differently), I see nothing wrong with it. As long as we cannot agree on something as fundamental as this, we cannot discuss anything that pertains to it. Until we have a common stance regarding the harmful/lesness of homosexuality, that is all we can discuss. It's like two people, locked in seperate rooms, trying to discuss whose sofa is more comfortable.

Nineteen

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It's also been found that homosexuality is present in wild animals, dolphins for example, and bonobo's.

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whats a bonobo?

lolfighter

A kind of chimpanzee. They pretty much spend their entire lives having sex.

Depot

Seems like the "biggest problem with homosexuality" is the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88166&hl=' target='_blank'>new aids strain</a>. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Deus_Ex_Machina

<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Feb 19 2005, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Feb 19 2005, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seems like the "biggest problem with homosexuality" is the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88166&hl=' target='_blank'>new aids strain</a>. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thousands of people get high on crystal meth and have sex with more than one person every week. It's just chance that a homosexual man contracted that strain first.

Depot

<!--QuoteBegin-Deus Ex Machina+Feb 19 2005, 01:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deus Ex Machina @ Feb 19 2005, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Feb 19 2005, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Feb 19 2005, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seems like the "biggest problem with homosexuality" is the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88166&hl=' target='_blank'>new aids strain</a>.  <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thousands of people get high on crystal meth and have sex with more than one person every week. It's just chance that a homosexual man contracted that strain first. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The case was diagnosed in a New Yorker in his mid-40s who reported multiple male sex partners and unprotected anal sex -- often while using the drug crystal methamphetamine<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Often" being the key word. This doesn't mean crystal meth is a pre-requisite.

Nineteen

its just another means of spreading a disease like aids through things like homesexuality, intravenous drugs and unprotected sex.

kida

<span style='color:red'>*NUKED.* The language rules apply to images too. -Talesin</span>

FilthyLarry

<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Feb 19 2005, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Feb 19 2005, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seems like the "biggest problem with homosexuality" is the <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88166&hl=' target='_blank'>new aids strain</a>. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The problem is having <b>unprotected sex</b>, regardless of hetero/homo sex partners.

Zel

STD's are spread by unprotected sex. in the late 70's and 80's safe sex wasnt taught or talked about. No one knew about these things, STD's are a relatively new discovery. People didnt know about AIDS back then.

So when there were these groups of people, with no chance of pregnancy who liked to ahve sex with one another, there was no reason to use any form of protection. Everything went smoothly for a while, but when AIDS first came into America and found its way to an active homosexual, it spread very quickly, as they were promiscuous. Heterosexual couples wouldnt contract the disease, not because of their orientation, but because they were not promiscuous. AIDS was perceived as a ****-disease before we knew how it worked properly. In fact, it was called GRID **** Related Immunological Disorder.

/GOSH it was hard to not flame Avenger in this post. PLEASE LEARN TO SPELL DISEASES


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Okay i believe i have disproven the connection between homosexuality and AIDS, if you dont believe so, please tell me what part of my explanation you dont understand and i or someone else will clarify. What was the second issue you have with them now?

lolfighter

This explains a WHOLE LOT, Zel, quite frankly.
I've grown up knowing about HIV/AIDS - how it's transmitted, how to prevent infection, how the virus works and what the typical course from infection to death is. I've learned about this in school, through credible pamphlets containing thoroughly-researched information.
The case you present is rather plausible, come to think of it. And it pretty much confirms what I've know for more than a decade: AIDS is not inherently ****.

Depot

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So when there were these groups of people, with no chance of pregnancy who liked to ahve sex with one another, there was no reason to use any form of protection.  Everything went smoothly for a while, but when AIDS first came into America and found its way to an active homosexual, it spread very quickly, as they were promiscuous.  Heterosexual couples wouldnt contract the disease, not because of their orientation, but because they were not promiscuous.  AIDS was perceived as a ****-disease before we knew how it worked properly.  In fact, it was called GRID **** Related Immunological Disorder.

/GOSH it was hard to not flame Avenger in this post.  PLEASE LEARN TO SPELL DISEASES


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Okay i believe i have disproven the connection between homosexuality and AIDS, if you dont believe so, please tell me what part of my explanation you dont understand and i or someone else will clarify.  What was the second issue you have with them now?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know why you think STDs and safe sex weren't talked about in the late 70's and 80's, because that's totally false (I doubt you were around then). Granted it wasn't on the level it is now due to HIV but don't say it wasn't talked about because I heard plenty on it.

"Heterosexual couples wouldnt contract the disease, not because of their orientation, but because they were not promiscuous" is total bs. Were not promiscuous? Certainly you jest. HIV is transmitted primarily by anal sex and using contaminated needles - guess which of these two is practiced by homosexuals?

Last but not least, before you hack away on Avenger's spelling, perhaps you'd rather run a spellcheck on your own post ("who liked to ahve sex")? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Deus_Ex_Machina

<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Often" being the key word. This doesn't mean crystal meth is a pre-requisite.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That's great, but that's not what I was saying.

<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Heterosexual couples wouldnt contract the disease, not because of their orientation, but because they were not promiscuous" is total bs. Were not promiscuous? Certainly you jest. HIV is transmitted primarily by anal sex and using contaminated needles - guess which of these two is practiced by homosexuals? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, because heterosexuals never practice anal sex, nor do they share needles!

Sacrasm aside, you can't blame homosexuals for that particular strain of HIV, they aren't the only party which uses crystal meth, shares needles, practices unsafe sex, etc.

<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Last but not least, before you hack away on Avenger's spelling, perhaps you'd rather run a spellcheck on your own post ("who liked to ahve sex")? tounge.gif<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

There's a difference between a misplaced letter and spelling diseases as dieses consistently.

Good pic <b>kida</b>. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

lolfighter

<!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Feb 19 2005, 10:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Feb 19 2005, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [...]HIV is transmitted primarily by anal sex and using contaminated needles - guess which of these two is practiced by homosexuals?[...] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's only half-true. If you cut away the "anal" part, then you're right. Wikipedia mentions <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV#Transmission_of_HIV' target='_blank'>"sexual contact,"</a> but does not specifically mention anal intercourse. You're welcome to list sources that say otherwise.


And now, to adress the general public again: Last time I checked, sexual intercourse is not something that only homosexuals engage in. My existence would indicate that my parents have been doing something to that tune. And although we like to associate sexual promicuity or "sleeping around" with homosexuals, that's pretty far from the truth. If all homosexuals were to magically turn straight, do you think that HIV would stop spreading just because of that? Think again.

Talesin

Allow me to interject just a bit of interesting information; as of the time of this writing, HIV/AIDS infections are significantly higher in the heterosexual community at this point, as opposed to the homosexual.
And note, that's percentages. Not individual cases. So multiply by roughly ten or so... meaning at least eleven straight folks have HIV, for every homosexual man or woman.

The main reason for its initial spread was a logistical one... without the risk of children, condoms were seen as almost pointless for the longest time. Due to the outbreak, awareness has risen, and infections have taken an immense nose-dive. A responsible homosexual man will get himself tested every few months if he is sexually active in a non-committed relationship. It is a threat, and is treated as one in the homosexual community, but is seen as the '**** disease' by the heterosexual... and that blind eye is allowing it a truly massive foothold. Which is growing daily.


Now then. I am a bit close to this discussion, but unless I see some NEW arguments that can be logically argued for why homosexuality is a problem, this thread will be closed.
Knee-jerk bigotry is not welcomed here, AvengerX.

lolfighter

Closed? So, was that a stern warning, or did you forget to lock the thread?