<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 01:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->does hating anyone make your life better?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No. Then why do you hate homosexuals? I'd say it's safe to say that anything considered evil is to be hated by whoever consideres it as such. Tell me if I'm wrong and elaborate? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> whoa whoa whoa buddy, when did I say I hated homosexuals? ever heard the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" thats what I believe. I don't think homosexuals are bad people , there just struggling with a problem. I want to help them , not kill/beat/genocide them.... lets just get that clear ok. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats all well and good except that sexuality is a part of who a person is; in effect hating the "sin" in this case is the same thing as hating the person.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and about your wayword son sir. I'm sorry that he is being confused and is having troubles with his body. but I know for a fact that he was not born to be homosexual. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know for a fact that ignorance leads to needless suffering. Explain to me in your wisdom what a hermaphrodite is born to be again? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> when a hermaphrodite is born, not both the organs work, out of all the studies I've read about I've never heard of both the **** and the **** being functional, only one of them is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes but ovaries and testes can both be present, whether fully functional or not.
My point here is that sexuality is not necessarily a "black and white" issue. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> actually it really is according to the proclimation to the family<a href='http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html' target='_blank'>here</a>
it is <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Evidence versus Drivel: Round 1
Flayra dude, it was a bad idea to reopen this. Maybe next time you should trust your mods with more experience dealing with us.
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and about your wayword son sir. I'm sorry that he is being confused and is having troubles with his body. but I know for a fact that he was not born to be homosexual. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I know for a fact that ignorance leads to needless suffering. Explain to me in your wisdom what a hermaphrodite is born to be again? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> when a hermaphrodite is born, not both the organs work, out of all the studies I've read about I've never heard of both the **** and the **** being functional, only one of them is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes but ovaries and testes can both be present, whether fully functional or not.
My point here is that sexuality is not necessarily a "black and white" issue. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> actually it really is according to the proclimation to the family<a href='http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html' target='_blank'>here</a>
it is <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You may find <a href='http://hermaphrodite.arriba.net/howcanyoubebothsexes.htm' target='_blank'>this</a> interesting.
<!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 01:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->does hating anyone make your life better?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No. Then why do you hate homosexuals? I'd say it's safe to say that anything considered evil is to be hated by whoever consideres it as such. Tell me if I'm wrong and elaborate? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> whoa whoa whoa buddy, when did I say I hated homosexuals? ever heard the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" thats what I believe. I don't think homosexuals are bad people , there just struggling with a problem. I want to help them , not kill/beat/genocide them.... lets just get that clear ok. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats all well and good except that sexuality is a part of who a person is; in effect hating the "sin" in this case is the same thing as hating the person. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> thats not true. no one is born a homosexual , as much as the media would love you to believe that some people are just born that way , there not, while some people may be born more feminin then others and be more likely to think they were destined for homosexuality. there not, its something that you have to choose.
I know lots of masculent men that are striaght and happy, and I know a lot of more feminin men that are allso striaght and happy
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too.
Man, you have no effing clue what you are talking about!
As I stated earlier, I know people who share the same feelings for one another as any hetrosexual couple would. Two fully concenting female adults that love eachother.
Everything you have quoted as a resource is Morman propoganda, I mean FFS!
You know nothing about the subject you are demonifying other than what your religious leaders tell you!
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ?
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 01:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 01:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I guess I don't want them to be happy [/QUOTE] You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thats not true. no one is born a homosexual<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And if you could prove that, then you would be considered one of the top psychologists of our time.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->as much as the media would love you to believe that some people are just born that way , there not, while some people may be born more feminin then others and be more likely to think they were destined for homosexuality.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Being feminine (or butch) and being homosexual have nothing to do with eachother, except on will and grace. Is that where you get your information about homosexuals?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->there not, its something that you have to choose.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 01:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->does hating anyone make your life better?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No. Then why do you hate homosexuals? I'd say it's safe to say that anything considered evil is to be hated by whoever consideres it as such. Tell me if I'm wrong and elaborate? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> whoa whoa whoa buddy, when did I say I hated homosexuals? ever heard the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" thats what I believe. I don't think homosexuals are bad people , there just struggling with a problem. I want to help them , not kill/beat/genocide them.... lets just get that clear ok. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats all well and good except that sexuality is a part of who a person is; in effect hating the "sin" in this case is the same thing as hating the person. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> thats not true. no one is born a homosexual , as much as the media would love you to believe that some people are just born that way , there not, while some people may be born more feminin then others and be more likely to think they were destined for homosexuality. there not, its something that you have to choose.
I know lots of masculent men that are striaght and happy, and I know a lot of more feminin men that are allso striaght and happy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Are you telling me that you made a concious decision at a point in time in your life to be attracted to females? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah, ya wanna know what safe sex is, its having sex with only one person who should be your spouse (who should allso be a seperate gender then yourself) if your a virgin and there a virgin and you've both avoided dousing up with needles, then thats safe sex
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I meant Christianity you ****. Don't even try to claim that they're a minority.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The only information I've seen brought up about the length of homosexual relationships was flawed beyond belief. And so what if they spread disease amoungst themselves? If they aren't going to take adiquate precautions then thats their fault, it doesn't hurt the rest of us.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There you go again "written in a book == moral!" Its like talking to a brick wall, only the wall has a higher IQ.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah, ya wanna know what safe sex is, its having sex with only one person who should be your spouse (who should allso be a seperate gender then yourself) if your a virgin and there a virgin and you've both avoided dousing up with needles, then thats safe sex <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That....or maybe just a condom ? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it!
<!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 02:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 02:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 01:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah, ya wanna know what safe sex is, its having sex with only one person who should be your spouse (who should allso be a seperate gender then yourself) if your a virgin and there a virgin and you've both avoided dousing up with needles, then thats safe sex <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That....or maybe just a condom ? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> condoms break from time to time, its not a 100% safe, its just a little bit "safer-sex"
a condom protects the ****, but there are still other things that can be exposes to fluids and you could get warts and what have you in the upper thigh region.
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [QUOTE=SkulkBait,Feb 22 2005, 01:55 AM] I guess I don't want them to be happy [/QUOTE] You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. [/QUOTE] please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Statistics can show just about anything you want given the right choice of data set.
How can you compare "pairing" to "marriage" ? Tell you what, let's give homosexuals the right to marry, wait a few decades and then lets do a study hmmmm ? That way... maybe we can actually draw some meaningful conclusions.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are!
<!--QuoteBegin-FilthyLarry+Feb 22 2005, 02:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (FilthyLarry @ Feb 22 2005, 02:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [QUOTE=AvengerX,Feb 22 2005, 01:59 AM] [QUOTE=SkulkBait,Feb 22 2005, 01:55 AM] I guess I don't want them to be happy [/QUOTE] You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. [/QUOTE] please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore [/QUOTE] Statistics can show just about anything you want given the right choice of data set.
How can you compare "pairing" to "marriage" ? Tell you what, let's give homosexuals the right to marry, wait a few decades and then lets do a study hmmmm ? That way... maybe we can actually draw some meaningful conclusions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> here's a study done comparing "pairing " and "marrige" for ya
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thats not true. no one is born a homosexual <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Give evidence, AvengerX. Even if homosexuality has absolutely no genetic basis (this might be a good thing, because it would discourage eugenics), I'm not sure that there are any steps that can be taken to reverse homosexuality in an adult, or to prevent it in a child (neither of these examples is a good thing to do, however, since I don't see homosexuality as being morally wrong).
If you think that homosexuality is bad, then let me use depression as an example (I don't think homosexuality is bad, but if it is, then it is almost universally undesirable, just like depression). Depression can sometimes be reversed through various means (therapy, drugs, religion, etc). Sometimes it can't. Some people are more comfortable going through life depressed, than to put forth the effort (sometimes a sisyphean task) to change. I'm not going to force them to change and they shouldn't be required to change.
Pressuring people into changing their sexual orientation because you think that homosexuality is wrong, is evil, in my book (especially because there isn't any evidence right now that suggests that this is possible).
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This thread has degraded beyond the point of discussion, plast flamewar and into toxic waste territory. I suggest that it not only be locked, but deleted and purged for all eternity.
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 02:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> what about lesbians? they like have sex with women... are they not homosexuals? are you being sexist now?
listen everyone sorry ladies, being a homo is reserved for only the men now... so sorry
come on skulkbait, I thought someone as liberal as you would support women being able to be homosexuals if they wanted
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 02:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what about lesbians? they like have sex with women... are they not homosexuals? are you being sexist now? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Jesus dude! Are your arguments so poor you must resort to semantics!!?
Here, let me bold it so that your small mind might be better able to comprehend:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like <b><span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>homosexual men</span></b> are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> listen everyone sorry ladies, being a homo is reserved for only the men now... so sorry
come on skulkbait, I thought someone as liberal as you would support women being able to be homosexuals if they wanted<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I thought you could read, yet somehow I am not surprised that you can't.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wow....it was burning "witches" and heretics at the stake... forcing people to pay money for forgiveness of sins... today its bombing abortion clinics.... tomorrow who knows, maybe George Dumbya will turn the US into a righteous dictatorship where homosexuals and any critics will be sent to Texas for execution..... gg Mini_Morman_Mighty_Mouth...the world is so much fun when with you guys wagging your finger at us as we ride the downhill slope into accepting such evils as two people loving each other!
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [QUOTE=FilthyLarry,Feb 22 2005, 02:07 AM] [QUOTE=AvengerX,Feb 22 2005, 01:59 AM] [QUOTE=SkulkBait,Feb 22 2005, 01:55 AM] I guess I don't want them to be happy [/QUOTE] You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. [/QUOTE] please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore [/QUOTE] Statistics can show just about anything you want given the right choice of data set.
How can you compare "pairing" to "marriage" ? Tell you what, let's give homosexuals the right to marry, wait a few decades and then lets do a study hmmmm ? That way... maybe we can actually draw some meaningful conclusions. [/QUOTE] here's a study done comparing "pairing " and "marrige" for ya
<a href='http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?i=IS04C02&f=PG03I03' target='_blank'>Here</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The Family Research Council: Defending Family, Faith, and Freedom.
Great source, AvengerX. If you manage to come up with a better source (say, <i>Nature</i> or <i>Science</i>, then tell us).
I didn't actually see any data in there about homosexuals who have married in a society that condemns homosexual marriage just as much as it condemns heterosexual marriage. Until you can compensate for the great societal pressures against homosexuality and the fact that the institution of homosexual marriage in a society is very new (it's not a tradition for cohabiting ****/lesbian partners to marry, like it is for straight people, so less would do it), then shut up.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 01:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 02:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 02:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 02:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Feb 22 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what about lesbians? they like have sex with women... are they not homosexuals? are you being sexist now?
listen everyone sorry ladies, being a homo is reserved for only the men now... so sorry
come on skulkbait, I thought someone as liberal as you would support women being able to be homosexuals if they wanted <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Now you are just changing the subject because you have been bested... again...
Just admit it, you don't have to like it, just accept that some people are homosexuals and won't change because your flawed religious propoganda says it's evil.
I still think you should try to take a walk in the shoes of a hmosexual for a day, afterall, it is a choice, rite?
<!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Feb 22 2005, 02:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Feb 22 2005, 02:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I still think you should try to take a walk in the shoes of a hmosexual for a day, afterall, it is a choice, rite? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, I mean, its not like I'm asking you to have sex with anybody, just choose to be attracted to other men for a day. I'm sure your god will forgive you if you ask anyway.
you make it sound like the world I want is such a horrible place. I just want a world where people understand the sacredness of sexual intercourse. and the holyness of marrige. and if that makes me a "zeolot" that wants to take away all of your freedom, then I guess i am.
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<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->does hating anyone make your life better?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No. Then why do you hate homosexuals? I'd say it's safe to say that anything considered evil is to be hated by whoever consideres it as such. Tell me if I'm wrong and elaborate?
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whoa whoa whoa buddy, when did I say I hated homosexuals? ever heard the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" thats what I believe. I don't think homosexuals are bad people , there just struggling with a problem. I want to help them , not kill/beat/genocide them.... lets just get that clear ok. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats all well and good except that sexuality is a part of who a person is; in effect hating the "sin" in this case is the same thing as hating the person.
I know for a fact that ignorance leads to needless suffering. Explain to me in your wisdom what a hermaphrodite is born to be again? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
when a hermaphrodite is born, not both the organs work, out of all the studies I've read about I've never heard of both the **** and the **** being functional, only one of them is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but ovaries and testes can both be present, whether fully functional or not.
<a href='http://www.mindfully.org/Health/In-Vitro-Chimeric-Hermaphrodite.htm' target='_blank'>Article</a>
My point here is that sexuality is not necessarily a "black and white" issue. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
actually it really is according to the proclimation to the family<a href='http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html' target='_blank'>here</a>
it is <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evidence versus Drivel: Round 1
Flayra dude, it was a bad idea to reopen this. Maybe next time you should trust your mods with more experience dealing with us.
If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy
I know for a fact that ignorance leads to needless suffering. Explain to me in your wisdom what a hermaphrodite is born to be again? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
when a hermaphrodite is born, not both the organs work, out of all the studies I've read about I've never heard of both the **** and the **** being functional, only one of them is. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but ovaries and testes can both be present, whether fully functional or not.
<a href='http://www.mindfully.org/Health/In-Vitro-Chimeric-Hermaphrodite.htm' target='_blank'>Article</a>
My point here is that sexuality is not necessarily a "black and white" issue. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
actually it really is according to the proclimation to the family<a href='http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html' target='_blank'>here</a>
it is <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You may find <a href='http://hermaphrodite.arriba.net/howcanyoubebothsexes.htm' target='_blank'>this</a> interesting.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->does hating anyone make your life better?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No. Then why do you hate homosexuals? I'd say it's safe to say that anything considered evil is to be hated by whoever consideres it as such. Tell me if I'm wrong and elaborate?
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whoa whoa whoa buddy, when did I say I hated homosexuals? ever heard the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" thats what I believe. I don't think homosexuals are bad people , there just struggling with a problem. I want to help them , not kill/beat/genocide them.... lets just get that clear ok. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats all well and good except that sexuality is a part of who a person is; in effect hating the "sin" in this case is the same thing as hating the person. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
thats not true. no one is born a homosexual , as much as the media would love you to believe that some people are just born that way , there not, while some people may be born more feminin then others and be more likely to think they were destined for homosexuality. there not, its something that you have to choose.
I know lots of masculent men that are striaght and happy, and I know a lot of more feminin men that are allso striaght and happy
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too.
As I stated earlier, I know people who share the same feelings for one another as any hetrosexual couple would. Two fully concenting female adults that love eachother.
Everything you have quoted as a resource is Morman propoganda, I mean FFS!
You know nothing about the subject you are demonifying other than what your religious leaders tell you!
If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ?
You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore
And if you could prove that, then you would be considered one of the top psychologists of our time.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->as much as the media would love you to believe that some people are just born that way , there not, while some people may be born more feminin then others and be more likely to think they were destined for homosexuality.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Being feminine (or butch) and being homosexual have nothing to do with eachother, except on will and grace. Is that where you get your information about homosexuals?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->there not, its something that you have to choose.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tell you what avenger: I want you to prove it. So all you have to do is be sexually attracted to other men for one day. I mean, you can choose to do that right? Its a choice after all.
<!--QuoteBegin-AvengerX+Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AvengerX @ Feb 22 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->does hating anyone make your life better?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No. Then why do you hate homosexuals? I'd say it's safe to say that anything considered evil is to be hated by whoever consideres it as such. Tell me if I'm wrong and elaborate?
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
whoa whoa whoa buddy, when did I say I hated homosexuals? ever heard the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" thats what I believe. I don't think homosexuals are bad people , there just struggling with a problem. I want to help them , not kill/beat/genocide them.... lets just get that clear ok. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats all well and good except that sexuality is a part of who a person is; in effect hating the "sin" in this case is the same thing as hating the person. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thats not true. no one is born a homosexual , as much as the media would love you to believe that some people are just born that way , there not, while some people may be born more feminin then others and be more likely to think they were destined for homosexuality. there not, its something that you have to choose.
I know lots of masculent men that are striaght and happy, and I know a lot of more feminin men that are allso striaght and happy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you telling me that you made a concious decision at a point in time in your life to be attracted to females? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That's mighty impressive.
If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah, ya wanna know what safe sex is, its having sex with only one person who should be your spouse (who should allso be a seperate gender then yourself) if your a virgin and there a virgin and you've both avoided dousing up with needles, then thats safe sex
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I meant Christianity you ****. Don't even try to claim that they're a minority.
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second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only information I've seen brought up about the length of homosexual relationships was flawed beyond belief. And so what if they spread disease amoungst themselves? If they aren't going to take adiquate precautions then thats their fault, it doesn't hurt the rest of us.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There you go again "written in a book == moral!" Its like talking to a brick wall, only the wall has a higher IQ.
If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah, ya wanna know what safe sex is, its having sex with only one person who should be your spouse (who should allso be a seperate gender then yourself) if your a virgin and there a virgin and you've both avoided dousing up with needles, then thats safe sex <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That....or maybe just a condom ? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it!
If by "help them" you mean "suck all the happiness out of their lives and force them through psychotherepy to try and change a part of them that cannot be changed" then I suppose you're right. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
if by "happy" you mean. having anal sex with men, spread and recieve horrible deises. never having the joys of having children, and not being able to enjoy the benefits of marrige... then yes
I guess I don't want them to be happy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Have you heard the term...."safe sex" ? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah, ya wanna know what safe sex is, its having sex with only one person who should be your spouse (who should allso be a seperate gender then yourself) if your a virgin and there a virgin and you've both avoided dousing up with needles, then thats safe sex <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That....or maybe just a condom ? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
condoms break from time to time, its not a 100% safe, its just a little bit "safer-sex"
a condom protects the ****, but there are still other things that can be exposes to fluids and you could get warts and what have you in the upper thigh region.
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill
You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. [/QUOTE]
please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Statistics can show just about anything you want given the right choice of data set.
How can you compare "pairing" to "marriage" ? Tell you what, let's give homosexuals the right to marry, wait a few decades and then lets do a study hmmmm ? That way... maybe we can actually draw some meaningful conclusions.
Come on man, look at that sexy beast! Be attracted to him!
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are!
You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. [/QUOTE]
please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore [/QUOTE]
Statistics can show just about anything you want given the right choice of data set.
How can you compare "pairing" to "marriage" ? Tell you what, let's give homosexuals the right to marry, wait a few decades and then lets do a study hmmmm ? That way... maybe we can actually draw some meaningful conclusions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
here's a study done comparing "pairing " and "marrige" for ya
<a href='http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?i=IS04C02&f=PG03I03' target='_blank'>Here</a>
Give evidence, AvengerX. Even if homosexuality has absolutely no genetic basis (this might be a good thing, because it would discourage eugenics), I'm not sure that there are any steps that can be taken to reverse homosexuality in an adult, or to prevent it in a child (neither of these examples is a good thing to do, however, since I don't see homosexuality as being morally wrong).
If you think that homosexuality is bad, then let me use depression as an example (I don't think homosexuality is bad, but if it is, then it is almost universally undesirable, just like depression). Depression can sometimes be reversed through various means (therapy, drugs, religion, etc). Sometimes it can't. Some people are more comfortable going through life depressed, than to put forth the effort (sometimes a sisyphean task) to change. I'm not going to force them to change and they shouldn't be required to change.
Pressuring people into changing their sexual orientation because you think that homosexuality is wrong, is evil, in my book (especially because there isn't any evidence right now that suggests that this is possible).
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This thread has degraded beyond the point of discussion, plast flamewar and into toxic waste territory. I suggest that it not only be locked, but deleted and purged for all eternity.
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
what about lesbians? they like have sex with women... are they not homosexuals? are you being sexist now?
listen everyone sorry ladies, being a homo is reserved for only the men now... so sorry
come on skulkbait, I thought someone as liberal as you would support women being able to be homosexuals if they wanted
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what about lesbians? they like have sex with women... are they not homosexuals? are you being sexist now?
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Jesus dude! Are your arguments so poor you must resort to semantics!!?
Here, let me bold it so that your small mind might be better able to comprehend:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like <b><span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>homosexual men</span></b> are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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listen everyone sorry ladies, being a homo is reserved for only the men now... so sorry
come on skulkbait, I thought someone as liberal as you would support women being able to be homosexuals if they wanted<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought you could read, yet somehow I am not surprised that you can't.
Quoted for emphasis! Come on man, do it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
wow....it was burning "witches" and heretics at the stake... forcing people to pay money for forgiveness of sins... today its bombing abortion clinics.... tomorrow who knows, maybe George Dumbya will turn the US into a righteous dictatorship where homosexuals and any critics will be sent to Texas for execution..... gg Mini_Morman_Mighty_Mouth...the world is so much fun when with you guys wagging your finger at us as we ride the downhill slope into accepting such evils as two people loving each other!
You and your religion are the ones who won't let them adopt children or get married. So who is the one trying to take away their happiness?
And hey, if men like having anal sex with eachother then who am I to judge? Its not like they're forcing me to watch. Spread and recieve horrible diseases? Straight people do that pretty well too. [/QUOTE]
please, theres only 11 million LDS members in the world today, that makes up such a very small amount of the population in the world. if everyone else wanted the homo's to adobt kids, then it would be done.
second, I know that striaght people spread deises to when they have multiple partners, but statistics show that homosexual's relationships last less amount of time and thus they have more partners spreading more deises, I think everyone should abstain from sex untill they are married. but people don't seem to think morals like that are importent anymore [/QUOTE]
Statistics can show just about anything you want given the right choice of data set.
How can you compare "pairing" to "marriage" ? Tell you what, let's give homosexuals the right to marry, wait a few decades and then lets do a study hmmmm ? That way... maybe we can actually draw some meaningful conclusions. [/QUOTE]
here's a study done comparing "pairing " and "marrige" for ya
<a href='http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?i=IS04C02&f=PG03I03' target='_blank'>Here</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Family Research Council: Defending Family, Faith, and Freedom.
Great source, AvengerX. If you manage to come up with a better source (say, <i>Nature</i> or <i>Science</i>, then tell us).
I didn't actually see any data in there about homosexuals who have married in a society that condemns homosexual marriage just as much as it condemns heterosexual marriage. Until you can compensate for the great societal pressures against homosexuality and the fact that the institution of homosexual marriage in a society is very new (it's not a tradition for cohabiting ****/lesbian partners to marry, like it is for straight people, so less would do it), then shut up.
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wow... it's homosexuals today.. pedaphiles tomorrow.... cyborg marriges after that... then in a while cloning prostatute sex slaves will come into fasion.. you guys ... wow, gg noobs the world is in for a long ride downhill <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again with the slippery slope argument. You are one thick headed SoB you know that?
Seriously, I'm only asking for a day not your entire freaking life. You know what your problem is? You know I'm right. You know because you are disgusted by the idea of having sex with men, just like homosexual men are disgusted with the idea of having sex with women. You can't make yourself feel differently because it is part of who you are! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what about lesbians? they like have sex with women... are they not homosexuals? are you being sexist now?
listen everyone sorry ladies, being a homo is reserved for only the men now... so sorry
come on skulkbait, I thought someone as liberal as you would support women being able to be homosexuals if they wanted <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now you are just changing the subject because you have been bested... again...
Just admit it, you don't have to like it, just accept that some people are homosexuals and won't change because your flawed religious propoganda says it's evil.
I still think you should try to take a walk in the shoes of a hmosexual for a day, afterall, it is a choice, rite?
Yeah, I mean, its not like I'm asking you to have sex with anybody, just choose to be attracted to other men for a day. I'm sure your god will forgive you if you ask anyway.