The Werewolf Game V: Aquarium

Soul_Rider · May 2005

Wait a minute, that was a random vote and as i said i would i'm now moving it. I do not beleive him to be a wolf.

Following my lead is called bandwagoning.

Snidely i am going to be honest. I don't trust you, and thats why you are getting my vote.

Snidely · May 2005

While it seems odd that the seer would come out this early, I'll change from PlanetKiller to Sky. Sky's more suspicious anyway, when you add day one into consideration.

Snidely · May 2005

Is a two man vote a bandwagon? :/

Soul_Rider · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snidely @ May 8 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is a two man vote a bandwagon? :/  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
someone has to be the first to jump on the band wagon, following someone else, you were the first to follow, so yes a two man vote is bandwagoning

Pithlit · May 2005

Well, since it seems like our best shot, right atm, im going to vote for sky, too

ZeroByte · May 2005

Snidely - 2 (ZeroByte, SoulRider)
BadKarma - 3 (im lost, Pithlit, Kerotan)
lolfighter - 1 (Quaunaut)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky, BadKarma)
PlanetKiller - 1 (Soul Rider)
Kerotan - 3 (Xentor, Saltzbad, Freak83)
Xentor - 1 (Hellfire3k)
Zerobyte - 1 (PlanetKiller)
Sky - 2 (Snidely, lolfighter)

ZeroByte · May 2005

Snidely - 2 (ZeroByte, SoulRider)
BadKarma - 2 (im lost, Kerotan)
lolfighter - 1 (Quaunaut)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky, BadKarma)
PlanetKiller - 1 (Soul Rider)
Kerotan - 3 (Xentor, Saltzbad, Freak83)
Xentor - 1 (Hellfire3k)
Zerobyte - 1 (PlanetKiller)
Sky - 2 (Snidely, lolfighter, Pithlit)

Snidely · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Soul Rider @ May 8 2005, 01:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snidely @ May 8 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is a two man vote a bandwagon? :/ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
someone has to be the first to jump on the band wagon, following someone else, you were the first to follow, so yes a two man vote is bandwagoning  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
It would make more sense for me to jump on an already existing bandwagon though, surely?

ZeroByte · May 2005

Snidely - 2 (ZeroByte, SoulRider)
BadKarma - 2 (im lost, Kerotan)
lolfighter - 1 (Quaunaut)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky, BadKarma)
PlanetKiller - 1 (Soul Rider)
Kerotan - 3 (Xentor, Saltzbad, Freak83)
Xentor - 1 (Hellfire3k)
Zerobyte - 1 (PlanetKiller)
Sky - 3 (Snidely, lolfighter, Pithlit)

GOddaamnit, I can't do anything right.

Soul_Rider · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snidely @ May 8 2005, 07:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Soul Rider @ May 8 2005, 01:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snidely @ May 8 2005, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is a two man vote a bandwagon? :/ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
someone has to be the first to jump on the band wagon, following someone else, you were the first to follow, so yes a two man vote is bandwagoning </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It would make more sense for me to jump on an already existing bandwagon though, surely?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
True but with only a few minutes before end of day, it all you can do to start the swing

TheMuffinMan · May 2005

It is now night three! No posting!

“He’s gone where?” asked lolfighter, who by now was beginning to lose his patience with Quaunaut.
“As I told you the last six times, he has gone out for a think”, Quaunaut spat back, angrily.
“And the fish is dead?”
“Yes!”
“Are you sure?”
“For the final time, yes!”
“And what happened to Omegaman?”
“The fish got him, as I told you before”
“And where the hell were you?”
“lolfighter, just back off, for Christ’s sake.” he had been questioning everyone, especially Quaunaut, for the last ten minutes or so.
“You know what?..” lolfighter had a witty insult ready on his lips, but swallowed it. “You’re right, sorry for going off at you.” The rest of the fish were in complete shock. lolfighter, he just apologized!
“Isamil should have been back by now”, Snidely wondered aloud. “I wonder where he is.”
Just then, as coincidence would have it, something large and chunky came into distant view. It floated along at a nice slow pace, but was still too far away for the fish to make anything of it.
“Hey guys, look at that!” pointed out ZeroByte, who had gotten tired of the castle interior and had decided to take a venture outside.
“And what, exactly, is that?” asked Xentor.
“Beats the hell out of me, but it looks like it is coming this way.”
Indeed, the mysterious shape floated slowly closer to them, slowly coming into plain sight. Xentor noticed something.
“Hey, does anyone else notice the red?”
“Blood?” Pithlit questioned quickly.
“Perhaps…”
It came even closer.
“Oh God, it is blood.” Planetkiller said, emotionally.
“Can anyone make the shape out?” asked Hellfire3k
SaltzBad squinted, just managing to see the outline of the shape. It looked a bit like a … Piranha?
“Well guys, it looks like we know where Isamil is.”
“Hey Isamil! Why are you facing backwards, man?” asked a curious Sky.
As he came closer, lolfighter went out to greet him.
“Hey, what took you so long?” lolfighter asked as he extended his tentacle, waiting for Isamil to shake it.
Isamil floated straight past him, all the while going backwards.
lolfighter turned around, slightly agitated at being ignored. “Hey, anything wrong?.” His words caught in his throat as he took in the full extent of the horror.
He was completely missing a mouth, along with a nose, two eyes and pretty much an entire head. He was covered in a fine powder, his brown scales barely visible beneath the dull black.

“So, what happened to him?” The fish were all bent over the decapitated Isamil. Each one of them was wondering the exact same thing.
“Judging by these three marks”, im lost gestured towards three long, deep scores in his neck, “He was killed by the filter motor.”
“What? How can that be? The safety cover is on there at all times. Could it have been anything else?”
“Well, I suppose it could have been a cookie-cutter fish. They have teeth that could have left these marks..” Both of them knew what had killed Isamil, but lolfighter was unwilling to accept that he had been killed by the motor.
“Are there any cookie-cutter fish in this tank?”
“No.”
“You sure?”
“Yes.”
lolfighter was confused. Isamil was big, tough and smart. How could he possibly be killed by the motor blades? No one here was big or strong enough to push him in. Well, except for me, he corrected himself.
“Yeah, I’m thinking the same thing. How the hell did this happen? He was too strong to be pushed in, and too smart to mess about with it.
“Perhaps it was suicide…” Kerotan suggested quietly.
“No way. He has been through his ups and downs, but he would never commit suicide.” Sky responded, dryly.
“Are you sure?”
“Yes.” He said it with an air of finality, an air of “Don’t you ever bring that up again…”
“Did anyone else notice this weird black stuff?”, asked Freak83
“No idea. Quaunaut found loads of it on that fish. He said something about it being an infection or something”, A replied.
“Really? Quaunaut, any idea?”
“It was nothing, forget about it”, Quaunaut said quickly.
“So, are we sure that he was pushed in?”
“Yes, there is no way in hell that he fell into the filter.” Freak83 concluded.
“So who pushed him in? I mean, that fish is long dead”, Snidely pointed out
“I don’t know, but I think I know how to find out…”

“Right, I want you all to line up for me.” Freak83 had taken charge of the situation, and had decided that something had to be done before everyone started killing each other.
“Why should we do that?” asked ZeroByte, a hint of spite creaping into his voice.
“Just do it. Please. We can get this entire mess sorted out right now if you want.”
“OK, OK, I’ll do it”, ZeroByte gave in “Come on guys, get in a line”.
The fish got in a fairly straight line, with lolfighter in front.
“Now, care to explain any of this to us?” he asked.
“Sure. Just give me one minute”, Freak83 dove to the floor, where he crawled around slowly for a minute. He came back up with a sharp rock.
“Right, this is what we are going to do…”

“Back when I saw that fish, I had an idea about what that black stuff was. It looked like a Pike, but it had some extra appendages not normally found on a pike, if you get my drift.”
“Now, at the time I really had no idea. After seeing Isamil, I am pretty damned sure that I am right. This black stuff… It takes over you. It does something to you, something horrible. Maybe it can hide itself, maybe it cannot. At the moment, I really don’t know.”
“What I do know, however, is that at least one of us has been infected with this stuff. We all saw how strong that fish was, there is no way that he did all of that on its own. Similiary, no one here could have taken on Isamil without some kind of help”
“It thinks it can hide...”
“It thinks it can beat us…”
“Well, I have an answer to this.”
With that, he approached lolfighter. The sharp rock in hand, so to speak.

“Stay still, this might hurt a little.”
“Right, will do”.
Freak83 scratched lolfighter with the rock, spilling a small amount of blood. He held the red stained rock close to his face, and made a show of inspecting it for several seconds. He winked at lolfighter, and gestured for him to come to his side.
“lolfighter, as many of you will have guessed by now, is perfectly fine.”
The line went into a mild shock. Had Freak83 actually found the answer?
lolfighter winked back, and whispered into his ear.

“I take it that this is all utter bollocks?”
“Yep, for all I know you may actually be one of those things.”
“So what is the point of this whole charade?”
“Lets wait and see, shall we?”

Freak83 bent down once again, and picked out another sharp rock. He walked up to Sky and held the rock in front of him.
“With your permission?”
“Of course, go right ahead”.
Freak83 gave him a scratch in his left flank, and once again made a show of inspecting the rock. After several seconds, he gave Sky a wink.
“Sky is also perfectly fine.”
Most of the fish were happy to hear this, but several started to shake. Some of them did not take confrontation very well, and this could very well be the deciding factor in whether they were to live or not. Kerotan, especially, was worried. What if they blame it all on me? I am not exactly in lolfighter's best books, am i?

“Now, next…” Freak83 held a freshly chosen rock in front of Soul Rider.
“You alright with this?” he asked.
“Sure, just get it over with quickly.”
He held the rock close, and slowly brought it forward. lolfighter and Sky kept their eyes on the line, readying themselves to explode forwards.
Freak83 went to cut Soul Rider along his right flank, but shouts from down the line interrupted him. He looked up, trying to see what the commotion was. Kerotan had made a break for it, with Sky and lolfighter on his tail.

He darted upwards, the surface his only hope. If he could get there, perhaps he could make a jump for the tank edge. Other fish had done it before – it wasn’t impossible, right?

He got halfway there before he noticed Sky and lolfighter closing on him. Both of them were quick, experienced and dangerous. He swam on anyway, his lungs burning with intense pain.

He could see the surface of the water clearly. He could see the light refracting into the water, and he could see the edge of the tank. Come on! Just a little bit further

Suddenly, he broke the surface an inch inside the tank edge, and shot into the air gracefully. A second later, lolfighter broke the surface, his tentacles reaching out for Kerotan. He came within half an inch of him, but soon Kerotan had gone too high and too far. His underbelly skimmed the glass, and he felt a new sensation – he was falling through air. Yes! I made it. With a dull thud, he hit the ground and began to crawl towards the nearby water drain.
Sky and lolfighter watched in amazement. How the hell had he gotten over the edge?

Kerotan nearly reached the drain, but something which could only be described as miraculous happened. It proved beyond any doubt that there was a God, and that he had an absolutely wicked sense of humor. The six year old picked Kerotan up by the tail, while the rest of the fish watched in horror. Oh God! Not even he deserved this!

The small child toyed with Kerotan for several seconds, swinging him around in circles and hitting him against tables. Then, showing just how small the attention span of a six year old was, he placed Kerotan on the table, displaying him for everyone to view.

Somehow, the bloody and broken Kerotan managed to rear his head and face the rest of the fish. He gave them a final, penetrating stare before the child brought down his fist, a sickening crunch penetrating each and every one of the fish still lucky enough to be in the tank.

---

Players still left in the game:

lolfighter
im lost
Pithlit
Hellfire3k
Xentor
Planetkiller
Quaunaut
ZeroByte
Sky
Freak83
Soul Rider
BadKarma
Snidely
SaltzBad

Instalynch is at 8

Night three will end at 19:00 GMT on Monday 9th May

Omegaman · May 2005

(*Sniff* That was the saddest death ever. My condolences to Kerotan.)

TheMuffinMan · May 2005

It is now Day three! Post away!

The fish, many still traumatized by the recent death of Kerotan, returned to the clearing in twos and threes. Most of them could still not believe that Kerotan had been one of those things. He had always seemed so innocent and uninvolved. Some people were even beginning to voice there suspicions about the three fish, including Freak83, who had been confirmed to be normal.

“I still can’t believe that he was one of them”, PlanetKiller said, his voice filled to the brim with doubt.
“Well, he was the one who made a run for it. Maybe he was just a normal fish, maybe he wasn’t. Either way, he should have stayed where he was”, said Quaunaut.
“Aye, I can agree to that”,
“But, what if he wasn’t a thing?”
“What if he was?”
“Either way, I’m beginning to doubt both lolfighter and Sky”, said im lost.
“What about Freak83?” asked Hellfire3k.
“What about him?” asked Xentor, a small amount of hostility present in his voice.
“Well, he was the one who came up with it all. Perhaps this is all his fault”,
“I don’t think so, but I reckon that we can all agree on one point”, concluded BadKarma.
“Oh, what’s that?”
“This test, or whatever it was, was nothing but crap from the start”, im lost said angrily.
“Amen to that…”

Meanwhile, Sky, lolfighter and Freak83 were celebrating their victory.
“Brilliant idea!” Sky said as he gave Freak83 a pat on the back.
“Yeah, well played. One enemy down, eh?”
“Indeed.”
“Thanks guys”, Freak83 said sincerely. Perhaps we were all actually going to get out of this mess.
“Do you reckon it will work again?” asked lolfighter.
“Not a chance. Some of them are stupid enough for it to work a second time, but most of them will have figured it out”, answered Sky conclusively.
“So, where does this leave us? Freak83, any ideas?”
“Yeah”, he managed a thin smile. For once, they are actually asking me for ideas!. “We need to work under the assumption that there are still some of those things in here with us.”.
Both lolfighter and Sky looked worried, but Freak83 was quick to explain.
“Chances are, everyone is a normal fish and we can just go back to our daily lives, but what if some of them are still here? We should play it safe, really.”
“Right”, Sky didn’t sound very convinced. “And how do we find out who these fish are?”
“Not a clue, but I am sure that between us, we will figure it out.”
The three fish continued on their way for a minute or so, until Sky bid his farewells and went to join the rest of the fish.
“Right, now what the hell do you want?” asked Freak83, who had been receiving signals from lolfighter ever since he was picked out of the line.
“We may have a problem…” lolfighter said, downcast

In the human race, children often come up with those brilliant ideas that manage to allude adults, year after year. In the race of fish, the same things happen – Often to the annoyance of the older fish, who reasoned that they deserved the good ideas more so than the young fish did.

“Come on, quickly!” ZeroByte said, excitedly, from up on the top of the castle. It had been his idea in the first place, and he was pretty proud of it, if he did say so himself. They were going to get all the food that they could and hide it in the castle, just in case. If anything went wrong, they could pull a runner and hopefully make it back to the castle in one piece, where they could sit out the rest of the violence nibbling on pellets and relaxing.
“Why don’t you come down here and help us?” asked an angry Soul Rider. He had pretty much no idea how to get the pellets out of the cracks and crevices. He was too proud to ask the adults, so he was stuck trying to reach for them with his tailfin. He was not having much luck with it.
“Well, I am the one who thought of the idea. Therefore, you get to do all the hard work.” Said ZeroByte, using his impeccable logic to win the argument.
“Yeah, well. It is still unfair!” protested Pithlit.
“Cry babies!” he taunted, “Just get all that food into this castle!”

“And what, exactly, is our problem?” Freak83 asked.
“I have found a way to figure out who is a real fish and who is something else ”,
“Seriously? You are not bluffing?”
“No, I am telling the truth”,
“How the hell have you figured it out?”
“Unfortunately, I cannot tell you at this time. I am not alone in this though, I have some friends who are supplying me with information.” lolfighter said glumly.
Freak83 turned his frown upside down, so to speak, but stopped when lolfighter failed to do the same.
“Christ, you’re serious about this?”
“Yep, and I know who the thing is. Or, at least I know who one of them is.”
“Really, no joke?”
“Yes, and this is where we have a problem…”
“Who is it?”
“Sky.”

“Right. What can we do about it?” asked a shocked Freak83.
“There is only one thing we can do about it, really.”
“Take him out?”
“Yes.” lolfighter said reluctantly. He had always liked Sky, who was one of the original fish, along with him and Isamil.
“How do you plan to do that? I mean, you could probably take him under normal circumstances, but with that thing helping him?”
“Don’t worry, I know who we can trust”, said lolfighter, an air of James Bond about him.
“Oh? Who?”
“You’ll see. You’ll see…”

The four of them swam directly towards Sky, making no effort to disguise their hostility.
“Whoa guys. What is this all about?” he asked innocently.
“You know what this is about, Sky. You know exactly what this is about”, SaltzBad said fiercely.
“Do I? Please, humour me”, said Sky bitterly.
“We are here to stop you from killing any more innocents, Sky. We know damned well that it was you who killed Isamil.” SaltzBad spat out in anger.
“What the hell are you guys on about?”
“Oh, give it a rest for Gods sake. We have you cornered, and we have proof of what you are. Give up peacefully and we will let you live. Apparently there may be a cure to all of this.” Snidely was trying to be reasonable, but he was every bit as angry as SaltzBad. He killed Isamil, and he is going to pay.
The attack was sudden, and it left Sky frozen in the water as SaltzBad pounced.

His dive was aimed straight at Sky’s flank, and there was no way that a normal fish could have dodged the attack - or at least that was what SaltzBad thought. Unfortunately for SaltzBad, Sky managed to dodge his attack anyway. Unlike the fight between Isamil and the fish, this fight was over in a flash.

Sky darted around SaltzBad, using his overconfidence to his advantage. He smashed downward, and caught SaltzBad in the side of the head. He dropped to the floor, motionless. Sky saw his opportunity and bolted, leaving the rest of the fish in his wake. lolfighter gave chase, and soon both disappeared into the weeds. Freak83 and Snidely both bent over SaltzBad, praying that he was still alive.

He looked dead, and indeed he was actually on the brink of death. He saw a bright white light, and began to swim towards it, like a bee to honey.
So, this is what it is like to be dead. Not quite as bad as I thought, actually.
He swam closer and closer to the white light.
Just a little bit further! Heaven, here I come
With that, he gave one final burst of speed and disappeared into the light.
He waited,
And waited,
And waited.
Finally, the light began to disperse. He could see his surroundings clearly now that the light was gone. He saw the water’s surface, 5 foot above him. He saw a big bunch of green weeds to his right. He saw a castle in the far-away distance to his left. He saw… Freak83 and Snidely staring at him.
“He’s alive! He’s alive!”.

---

SaltzBad was chosen to be wolfed, but he was protected by the Guardian and so is still alive.

Players still left in the game:

lolfighter
im lost
Pithlit
Hellfire3k
Xentor
Planetkiller
Quaunaut
ZeroByte
Sky
Freak83
Soul Rider
BadKarma
Snidely
SaltzBad

Instalynch is at 8

Day Three will end at 20:00 GMT on Wednesday 11th May. This is one hour later than normal, due to real life constraints.

Judging by a few conversations in IRC, i think that this needs to be mentioned again:
What happens in the story has absolutely nothing at all to do with the actual game, and basing your votes or opinions on the story is very, very, very foolish

im_lost · May 2005

As tradition dictates, I will start the day off with a random vote. Today it goes to Freak83.

Soul_Rider · May 2005

Oh mY GOd, the guardian was actually useful? He wasn't killed? Well done!!

Byeka · May 2005

THE FIRST TWG GUARDIAN SAVE EVER!

And what a perfect target it was to be guarded. Following standard guarded procedure, all the roles should PM him immidiatly.

im_lost · May 2005

I'd like to put some emphasis on a point that I realized. Previously, .1 phantom votes didn't matter unless there was a tie vote, so missing a single vote generally didn't matter. However, since half of the votes is an integer value, that .1 phantom vote will make a difference. Not that anyone was planning on getting phantom votes, but it's even more important for you to avoid them now.

Planetkiller · May 2005

Freak: woot for instant network!

Snidely · May 2005

Best. Guardian. Ever.

Snidely · May 2005

So, where do we go from here?

I heard that Sky claimed to have been seered. I'n not sure how true this is; I read it on IRC. Logs for the last couple of nights would be great, if anyone has them. Discard this post, otherwise.
___
Scenario one:

Lolly is a wolf.
Sky is a wolf.

This doesn't make much sense to me. Why would the wolves fight each other? The risk is too great for this to be a sensible ploy.
___
Scenario two:

Lolly is a wolf.
Sky is a human.

Lolly is playing the "fake seer card". If Sky claimed to be seered before Lolly came out, then the wolves could be trying to stop a network forming. If it's the other way around, then it's a) coincidence, b) attacking someone who tends to be trusted, or c) the real seer trying to stop misinformation.
___
Scenario three:

Lolly is a human.
Sky is a wolf.

In this case, Lolly is telling the truth. He's either the seer himself, or working with the seer. A human pretending to be/know the seer is only hurting himself if he's lying.
___
Scenario four:

Lolly is a human.
Sky is a human.

This would cover the eventuality that Lolly is a pawn, being moved to knock Sky off the board without risking a wolf.
___

So, which is it? Lolly has played a quiet (not inactive) game, and publicly, doesn't appear to have much networking done. This doesn't mean much, one way or the other. Sky has people trusting him, but that doesn't mean that Sky is a wolf. It could be that Sky is part of the real seer's network, or of a group of humans banded together.

Sky · May 2005

Whew. Nice job, guardian; you shall definitely go down in the record books for that save, right next to the entry for this human win. I think it's time I reveal a couple of my own pm conversations, just to get the ball rolling back in the right direction here.

First of all, lolfighter, I have a few logs you might want to look at. Specifically, logs that directly contradict what posted yesterday:

First, a pm from the seer. The seer first contacted me on irc, and apparently I suck at logging, so this is the first forum pm from this person:
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (May 5th @ 12:57PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Have you been talking to Freak83 lately ? He seems to have something on his mind - I anonymously sent him an EMail to be on the safe side.

However, it had me thinking - he's either a wolf, or stupid. He's calling out to the seers, basicly asking if theirs any fakes out there or if the seer is still alive. Doing that implicates reason to believe he knows the seer is dead or thinks there are 2 seers.

Now, I might not be too bright - but as a wolf, either way, he'd be an easy kill. Likely to be seered and all. I'm just not sure if I should bother seering him tonight. If he survives without a gaurding, he's likely a wolf - and has made the case against himself on the forum already. If he doesn't, well then it was a waste of a seering. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You see, I was the first person the seer checked. Or, at the very least, I was the first person contacted by a false seer. I have done nothing but form networks of communication between this person and others, and those other people know who they are. For example, here is another pm from one of my contacts:

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>sky - I am sending you this meesage in what could be my first and last mistake in my first game.

First of all, i believe you to be Human. I too am only a Human, but i believe i have discovered some, if not all of the wolves. While it is unlikely i have actually found them all, i would like you to take a look at my reasoning. I am asking you as firstly i believe you are human, and secondly as i believe the first point, it makes sense to contact an experienced plyer with my info, and see if you can help.

My suspicions for the wolves are strong on Quaunaut, Freak83 and BadKarma. Hellfire may also be a wolf, but i'm not sure. Here is my reasoning...

Quaunaut was on the forums, but never posted in the game, lying low as a wolf. Omegaman! voted for him, then that was followed by lolfighter and someone else. Now the wolves become scared, people that have been virtually unheard from, freak83 and Badkarma, come out in defence of Quaunaut by stacking up on Omegaman!

Now as i said in IRC, if quaunaut stays out of it, he probably just has RL issues (unlikely since he has still been active around the forums) but if he comes back to save himself that would be suspicious, and lo and behold, he came back and voted for Omegaman!

I am convinced these 3 are wolves. Very unsure on the 4th, could be Hellfire3k as he has been very quiet, and suddenly votes, also on Omegaman! although he has been mopping up info in IRC without talking.

I am also worried about the possibility that Omegaman! May have a role, and may have slipped up in his pursuit of Quaunaut, but that is pure speculation.

The other reason for contacting you is that as you are quite apparently human, hopefully the seer and the psychic will think to make contact with you, as you would be a powerful ally. This is a hope, that if any new players are human roles, they would be wise enough to contact you, of course they maybe too scared as new players. I come to you as i have nothing really to lose. If i am wrong, and you are a wolf, you may keep me alive to string me along with my idea, you may kill me. Either way wont affect the game much. If you are human, you may doubt me. Fair enough, but as i said i'm new to this, i strongly believe i have found the wolf nest, if i have, this game could be over in a few days.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

It has been mildly edited to preserve the identity of the sender in question, because the sender of this pm is the psychic's contact. Or, as I am beginning to guess, the psychic himself.

I have also been contacted by someone that lolfighter actually pm-ed. Apparently lolfighter told pithlit to "prove his loyalty" by voting for me. I draw your attention to the fact that pithlit has voted for me two days in a row, which is inconsistent with even lolfighter's claim that I was the second person seered.

What all this leads me to believe is that a) Either my seer is playing two groups of humans against each other, b) Lolfighter has NOT been contacted by the seer (indeed, that is what my contact told me only last night), and he is drawing people like pithlit and snidely in with vague threats like "prove your loyalty", or c) The entire group is comprised of wolves. The third option is most doubtful at this point, because the wolves wouldn't put all their eggs in the same basket, so to speak. Therefore, I conclude that either or both pithlit and snidely are humans who have been swept up in some wolf's scheme.

What I propose, then, is that the psychic and seer, who at this point should know who the other is if you've been paying attention, join up as quickly as possible. In fact, it is imperative that they do this as quickly as possible. Then, it should be an easy matter for the seer to confirm the psychic, while at the same time the psychic confirms whether or not lolfighter is a wolf. My vote for lolfighter is one born of probability; it is simply more probable a scenario in my eyes that lolfighter is a wolf leading humans. I do not believe a human would allow himself to be persuaded and turned so easily, especially when it comes to something as dubious as a false seer.

Snidely · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sky @ May 9 2005, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What I propose, then, is that the psychic and seer, who at this point should know who the other is if you've been paying attention, join up as quickly as possible. In fact, it is imperative that they do this as quickly as possible. Then, it should be an easy matter for the seer to confirm the psychic, while at the same time the psychic confirms whether or not lolfighter is a wolf. My vote for lolfighter is one born of probability; it is simply more probable a scenario in my eyes that lolfighter is a wolf leading humans. I do not believe a human would allow himself to be persuaded and turned so easily, especially when it comes to something as dubious as a false seer.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Whoa, back up there. From where I'm standing, you're no less suspicious than Lolly. Why should the psychic trust you any more than Lolly if there has been no wolf kills?

lolfighter · May 2005

I certainly didn't bully Pithlit into anything, nor Snidely. I'm sure they'll be willing to confirm that, even if that may not matter to you. In fact, I don't think I'd be capable of bullying anyone into anything. Yes, I did ask (not bully) Pithlit to prove his loyalty, but that was in a different matter.

BadKarma · May 2005

I'd like to place a vote for lolfighter. I don't think that you're a wolf, but I do think that you're being manipulated. Not a totally serious vote, but i'd like to talk to you, either in PM's or IRC. I can be on right now.

Snidely · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lolfighter @ May 9 2005, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I certainly didn't bully Pithlit into anything, nor Snidely. I'm sure they'll be willing to confirm that, even if that may not matter to you. In fact, I don't think I'd be capable of bullying anyone into anything. Yes, I did ask (not bully) Pithlit to prove his loyalty, but that was in a different matter.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Lolly's never approached me.

SaltzBad · May 2005

Now that every single one of you out there knows I'm human, its time to go on the blunt offense. I don't expect to live all that long anymore, and if I do - well woop-di-doo.

There is 2 seer networks out there. That much should be obvious by now. One of them has contacted Sky, the other lolfighter. The one contacting Sky is entirely fake - because it was iniated by me. Skys defensive last moment move at this point is obvious, namely try to pin the fake network on anyone but the real initiator, to give himself credibility. That however won't work, so from this point on you can safely regard anything he says as pointless diversion.

And infact, I will be able to inform you right after the lynch of Skys wolfishness for absolutely certain - obviously via the psychic. This is pretty much a sealed deal at this point, there is no third seer network out there - and theres no excuse for distrusting me anymore.

Congratulations to the gaurdian, to be honest. You took this one home with you.

Snidely · May 2005

Sky.

Planetkiller · May 2005

Despite Saltzbad's mad, mad strategy that I still don't completely get (which is perhaps the point), I'll go with him and vote Sky

Byeka · May 2005

Sky for sure. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

Xentor · May 2005

Well, the way I see it, either Saltz is a definite human, or the wolves played the guardian and organized this, wolfing one of their own and trusting the guardian to obey them...

All things being equal, the simplest answer tends to be the correct one. Sky

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