<!--QuoteBegin-Xentor+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xentor)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ZB sees the wolfiness in Break's position... Fourth on the bandwagon is always a bit suspicious. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And remember, on top of all of this we have the psychopath. He is the wildcard, and at the moment he probably has no idea what to do. If i was him, i would go for early game confusion, and then knock off the wolves while they have their backs turned. Something may appear to be part of an elabourate ploy by three wolves, but it could just be the work of a single person, trying to confuse us.
Well, not having played a game in a long while, I have been sitting here completely overthinking every move each person has done, and I've decided till I get more info, thinking is a bad choice (usually is for me).
I mean, right now I could make a vote for TheMuffinMan, SaltzBad, or Breakthrough and come up with a half plausable reason for this point in the game. But like I said, thinking is hard. <b>Satlzbad</b> makes me think more right now, and it scares me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
Anyone noticing this has degraded into a witch hunt? Basically whoever hasn't voted yet gets to decide. As I said on IRC, I wish I voted before it was left to the few of us that haven't decided. I'll jump out now and go for TheMuffinMan- as Condizzle pointed out on IRC, he seems to have wanted someone eliminated bad. And I'm wondering if he is even doing it for the right reasons or not.
I also vote for <b>TheMuffinMan</b>. With his strategy to put 'pressure' on one person, this means that votes will be less spread out, therefor less chances of putting any of the 'pressure' on a wolf. It seems to me that this 'pressure' idea was a plot to make us all vote for one person. He probably presumed that people would follow whoever voted next in order to put on the pressure. This also makes Petco rather suspicious, as perhaps he is another wolf meant to start the pressuring. It makes sense, as I am an experianced player. Who better for the wolves to put 'pressure'(more votes) on than someone who won two games? It seems if this was, in fact, a plan, then it failed, as they put the 'pressure' on TheMuffinMan. I know I'm overanalyzing this, but it makes sense to me.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 30 2005, 12:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 30 2005, 12:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Anyone noticing this has degraded into a witch hunt? Basically whoever hasn't voted yet gets to decide. As I said on IRC, I wish I voted before it was left to the few of us that haven't decided. I'll jump out now and go for TheMuffinMan- as Condizzle pointed out on IRC, he seems to have wanted someone eliminated bad. And I'm wondering if he is even doing it for the right reasons or not.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I hate to draw even more attention to myself, but at the moment there is no single person that i am targetting. In fact, i left my vote open because i had no idea who i wanted to vote for. I ended up voting for breakthrough because in my opinion, any communication is good for the humans. If the game becomes stagnant, the wolves have the advantage.
Sure, i would like the votes more concentrated than spread out, for various reasons. Someone with six votes has a much more real chance of being voted out than someone tied with another four people. With any luck, this will effect their playing style. As i said before, desperate people do not make good lyers, so the higher the chance of someone being voted out, the harder he has to try and convince the other players that he is human, and the more likely he is to slip up.
Of course, this slip up is probably going to make him look like a wolf when he is human. The fact is, we are going to vote off a human. Tommorow, we will also probably vote off a human. The chances of getting a wolf at such an early stage in the game are pretty damned small. However, i would feel much more secure in voting someone out who is acting suspect, than someone who just gets on the bad side of random.org.
Also, responding the the conversation in IRC that in the past games, spreading out the votes has worked - We only did that in the last game, which was VERY nearly a wolf win. In TWG IV, we concentrated on Slacky for day one. Unfortunately, he turned out to be a human, but a human who was acting very suspicious. We won that one quite comfortably. If you want to spread the votes out and let random.org decide it, why try and snipe me at all?
I bet the spectators are laughing their arses off at the moment. I suggest that we concentrate our votes, and lo and beholde, i get a fair amount of votes myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Anywho, as I said on IRC, I have some small suspicions but they're not really anything to go on, and I don't want to vote for anyone who already has a lot of votes, so I'm going to hold off with voting for now. We do have plenty of time.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-TheMuffinMan+May 30 2005, 11:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheMuffinMan @ May 30 2005, 11:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, responding the the conversation in IRC that in the past games, spreading out the votes has worked - We only did that in the last game, which was VERY nearly a wolf win. In TWG IV, we concentrated on Slacky for day one. Unfortunately, he turned out to be a human, but a human who was acting very suspicious. We won that one quite comfortably. If you want to spread the votes out and let random.org decide it, why try and snipe me at all? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> We also did it in TWG 2, and from what I saw, 1 and 3 had it also. V we did, and it wasn't a near wolf game at all. There were still several humans left.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 30 2005, 01:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 30 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> V we did, and it wasn't a near wolf game at all. There were still several humans left. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't really want to get off-topic, but that game was extremely close. If Hellfire3k had protected Pithlit rather than SaltzBad, the wolves would have won.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 30 2005, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 30 2005, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But they didn't. We won because of competence, not luck. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Suuuuuure ya did <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-TheMuffinMan+May 30 2005, 11:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheMuffinMan @ May 30 2005, 11:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A bunch of stuff <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd rather have somebody suspicious voted off first even if they are human, so that they don't draw attention away from the wolves when it counts, so I agree with Muff.
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
Also, we <i>really</i> need to do something about these vote tallies. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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ZB sees the wolfiness in Break's position... Fourth on the bandwagon is always a bit suspicious.
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I'm actually the third.
Vote count:
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 2 (Breakthrough, Cyndane)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 2 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired)
Theslan - 1 (Theslan)
Vote count:
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 2 (Breakthrough, Cyndane)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 2 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor)
Vote count:
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 2 (Breakthrough, Cyndane)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 2 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired)
Theslan - 2 (Theslan, Xentor)
Vote count:
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 2 (Breakthrough, Cyndane)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 2 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor)
I mean, right now I could make a vote for TheMuffinMan, SaltzBad, or Breakthrough and come up with a half plausable reason for this point in the game. But like I said, thinking is hard. <b>Satlzbad</b> makes me think more right now, and it scares me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 3 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor)
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 4 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut, Condizzle)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, im lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor)
People who still have to vote:
EMP Demon
CMEast
brute force
Petco
Cheetah
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 4 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut, Condizzle)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sky, you have Condizzle twice.
Vote count:
ZeroByte - 2 (Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 4 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut, Condizzle)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, im lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor)
People who still have to vote:
EMP Demon
CMEast
brute force
Petco
Cheetah
Vote count:
ZeroByte - 2 (Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 4 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut, Condizzle)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, im lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 1 (Xentor, CMEast)
People who still have to vote:
EMP Demon
brute force
Cheetah
I hate to draw even more attention to myself, but at the moment there is no single person that i am targetting. In fact, i left my vote open because i had no idea who i wanted to vote for. I ended up voting for breakthrough because in my opinion, any communication is good for the humans. If the game becomes stagnant, the wolves have the advantage.
Sure, i would like the votes more concentrated than spread out, for various reasons. Someone with six votes has a much more real chance of being voted out than someone tied with another four people. With any luck, this will effect their playing style. As i said before, desperate people do not make good lyers, so the higher the chance of someone being voted out, the harder he has to try and convince the other players that he is human, and the more likely he is to slip up.
Of course, this slip up is probably going to make him look like a wolf when he is human. The fact is, we are going to vote off a human. Tommorow, we will also probably vote off a human. The chances of getting a wolf at such an early stage in the game are pretty damned small. However, i would feel much more secure in voting someone out who is acting suspect, than someone who just gets on the bad side of random.org.
Also, responding the the conversation in IRC that in the past games, spreading out the votes has worked - We only did that in the last game, which was VERY nearly a wolf win. In TWG IV, we concentrated on Slacky for day one. Unfortunately, he turned out to be a human, but a human who was acting very suspicious. We won that one quite comfortably. If you want to spread the votes out and let random.org decide it, why try and snipe me at all?
I bet the spectators are laughing their arses off at the moment. I suggest that we concentrate our votes, and lo and beholde, i get a fair amount of votes myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Votes
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 3 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 2 (Xentor, CMEast)
Anywho, as I said on IRC, I have some small suspicions but they're not really anything to go on, and I don't want to vote for anyone who already has a lot of votes, so I'm going to hold off with voting for now. We do have plenty of time.
We also did it in TWG 2, and from what I saw, 1 and 3 had it also. V we did, and it wasn't a near wolf game at all. There were still several humans left.
I don't really want to get off-topic, but that game was extremely close. If Hellfire3k had protected Pithlit rather than SaltzBad, the wolves would have won.
Suuuuuure ya did <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'd rather have somebody suspicious voted off first even if they are human, so that they don't draw attention away from the wolves when it counts, so I agree with Muff.
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
TheMuffinMan - 3 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
SaltzBad - 3 (Cheetah, SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Theslan - 2 (Xentor, CMEast)
Votes
SaltzBad - 4 (Cheetah, SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
ZeroByte - 3 (Condizzle, Mouse, Mantrid)
TheMuffinMan - 3 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Theslan - 2 (Xentor, CMEast)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
SaltzBad - 4 (Cheetah, SaltzBad, Legionnaired, Comprox)
Breakthrough - 4 (TheMuffinMan, Gwahir, I'm_lost, ZeroByte)
ZeroByte - 2 (Mouse, Mantrid)
TheMuffinMan - 4 (Breakthrough, Cyndane, Quaunaut, condizzle)
Quaunaut - 2 (Theslan, Pulse)
Theslan - 2 (Xentor, CMEast)
Condizzle - 1 (Petco)
This should be right. I hope.