Okay, I should have proofread that. The first 2 sentences to brute force are a non-sequitur of doom. Let me paraphrase : brute_forces method of voting analysis makes sense, but don't forget to look at people laying low and avoiding aggression. Also, start with the smallest suspect group, see if you can rule any out, and go from there.
Just a little side note here, if anyone has anything they'd like me to know for the game log I'm writing, feel free to pm me on the forums or on irc. It'll make things far easier to piece together at the end of the game.
EMP_DemonNothing to see here.Join Date: 2005-01-28Member: 38754Members, Constellation
Gwahir, he never meant to vote, remember? He only bolded to show emphasis?
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I meant to hold my vote - I bolded TheMuffinMan because I was making a refrence to him...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For now, I'll vote for <b>Cyndane</b>, for the same reason as im lost. That, and she keeps claiming she's gonna kill me off <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm voting for <b>Zerobyte</b> the human because he doesn't have any votes yet and I do <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->. Don't you fret though Mr Byte, you'll soon have it moved and your name will yet again be accusation free.
I've been in contact with someone who knows someone. I'm not totally sure on this, but I'm trusting you, you_know_who. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok, I'm curious now. What evidence you have on me? From my perspective, it seems that you're either working alone trying to get me lynched, or that someone is hiding behind you feeding you this info which you've seem to trust.
Come on IRC and chat with me... tell me your thoughts about this. If you don't trust me enough and think I'm going to manipulate your words, talk to another person, who is vocal on this forum, so that if there is manipulation, it'll be evident from the different facts/stories we give.
I'll vote for <b>Comprox</b>, no one voted for him yet <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . Also he seems a little quiet.
BreakthroughTexture Artist (ns_prometheus)Join Date: 2005-03-27Member: 46620Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-Petco+Jun 3 2005, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Petco @ Jun 3 2005, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll vote for <b>Comprox</b>, no one voted for him yet <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . Also he seems a little quiet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Or he's perma-AFK <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sorry, I have been terribly quiet. Last 2 times I was loud and at the front, I got my **** handed to me in the first few days. The whole busy in real life crap also taking over (summer, fun, sun, etc).
Frankly, Im a little confused so far, and I am trying to think this over logically. Im trying this round of just ignore every other accusation people are posting (unless it's obvious) and think it through for myself. In old times, I would just vote for Petco out of spite but since I have no evidence against him, I won't. I don't see the need to sit here and make tons of posts making random accusations on half truths and little evidence. And when people do make a vote against me, I do voice my thoughts as I am doing. If I do believe I have a good reason to vote for someone, I will make my voice known. Alas, since I need to vote for someone and not get a phantom vote... we shall lay the bold letters on <b>Breakthrough</b>. Again, nothing major yet, just a vibe right now.
I'm changing my vote to <b>Legionnaired</b>. There's no votes for him yet, so it shouldn't matter. Bandwagoning without any type of real reason (by anyone that voted for Breakthrough), and when in a hurry? I don't like it.
Dunno if this counts but: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[13:09:44] <@TheMuffinMan> brute, do you have any votes on you? [13:10:10] <+brute_force> erm I dont think so [13:10:15] <+brute_force> didn't have any last time I checked <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> [13:10:18] <@TheMuffinMan> I'm going out, and probably won't be back in time for the end of the day. I was going to make a vote on the forums, but they are down [13:10:19] <+brute_force> but that was last night [13:10:26] <@TheMuffinMan> I'll place an IRC vote for you, then [13:10:29] <+brute_force> lol [13:10:51] <@TheMuffinMan> I don't suspect you in the least, but i have to vote for someone <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> [13:11:00] <+brute_force> heh [13:11:09] <@TheMuffinMan> I don't want to vote for anyone who already has votes incase it heats up [13:11:09] <+brute_force> when does the day end? [13:11:16] <@TheMuffinMan> 9 hours, iirc [13:11:26] <+brute_force> oh :O [13:11:34] <+brute_force> I should probably vote for someone then [13:12:30] <@TheMuffinMan> If the forums come back online and you make a post, could you mention that i have voted for you? [13:12:38] <+brute_force> er, not sure if that counts but sure [13:12:50] <@TheMuffinMan> cheers<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyway, to return the favor, I vote for <b>TheMuffinMan</b>. I don't suspect you at all but I need to vote for someone, as I don't have much evidence on anyone at the moment. Also wondering if the day will be extended?
Cheers for posting that, bruteforce. Thanks mainly to the crappy weather, i'm still here and can make a post. I reckon i'll keep my vote on <b>brute force</b>. As i said in IRC, it is nothing personal. At the moment, i have no idea to vote for and it seems easier to just keep my vote on you. I'll probably end up changing this vote, as hopefully the day will be prolonged.
I am aware that this contradicts everything i have done so far, but i don't feel comfortable in voting for breakthrough or anyone else with more votes until i have at least <i>something</i> to go on. I am pretty sure that breakthrough is a human, as he appears honest and has given me no indication of being anything else.
I'm voting for <b>Comprox</b> because a) you're awfully quiet for a community leader. Plus, if you were confused about who to vote for and didn't want to get the penalty then you'd vote for someone without any votes yet, you wouldn't change Breakthrough from a random vote in to a possible bandwagon.
... accusations are so... accusing. Never been comfortable with pointing fingers at people.
BreakthroughTexture Artist (ns_prometheus)Join Date: 2005-03-27Member: 46620Members, Constellation
<b>Comprox</b> is going to have my vote again. "Vibes" aren't good evidence to vote on IMHO... If you didn't want a phantom vote, why not someone without any votes? It seems as though you've started up a bandwagon...
Put me down for <b>Comprox</b> too. For one, he bandwagoned on SaltzBad the last day too and secondly there is the whole point about starting the bandwagon on Breakthrough. I do have some reservations though, mainly how the logic seems too erratic for a right thinking wolf to actually be doing. Although that doesn't really say anything. BadKarma blew his cover in the last game by being erratic too.
Current vote count, going by the looking through all the posts.
BreakthroughTexture Artist (ns_prometheus)Join Date: 2005-03-27Member: 46620Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Jun 4 2005, 01:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Jun 4 2005, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why does my name have to be changed to include capital letters? I understand the underscore, and the apostrophe is fine, but no caps, please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Technically, it should be "im lost" and nothing else, because that's how you put it as your username, but I'm not one to get into technics...
I love saying that (technics)... Cool word <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+Jun 4 2005, 11:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough @ Jun 4 2005, 11:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Jun 4 2005, 01:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Jun 4 2005, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why does my name have to be changed to include capital letters? I understand the underscore, and the apostrophe is fine, but no caps, please. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Technically, it should be "im lost" and nothing else, because that's how you put it as your username, but I'm not one to get into technics...
I love saying that (technics)... Cool word <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> My name should have an apostrophe. It was lost during the forum transition, which is stupid, since there's still people with exclamation points and question marks in their name. I use an underscore in IRC, that's why that part could make sense.
Well, if anyone has noticed, I am not exactly 'active' for a forum admin. I was worried I would be not active enough for this round of the game, and I seem to be correct.
As for my bandwagoning on Satlz, I went onto IRC and asked people what was up with him before I voted. I checked to see if he was just a new player and didn't know what he was doing or if he was just messing around with us. Once I found out he is messing around, that can be good or bad. Now, if you think about it some. Satlzbad confused the wolves last game and helped the humans win. Saltz is acting confusing again. So, you think the wolves or psycho would get on that and kill him off to keep their heads a little clearer. Woops, he didn't die. Now, that may be due to them being too worried about both going for him, but I think they would try and kill him off, or vote him off if he was a human. Personally, that scares me still, as you never can have much evidence of what role he plays.
Now, my vote for Breakthrough, he voted for me last round. Alone that doesn't say much. But (no) thanks to Condizzle being voted off and after talking with a few people, I am fairly confident I have a few roles figured out. Not the wolves exactly, but maybe a few of the helpers. Now, he said he voted for me for 'no reason' which is fine by me, but, I think I know who NOT to vote for right now, and Breakthrough sure as heck isn't on that list.
As I said before also, I am just sitting here trying to figure this out in my head, blabbing away on the forums isn't going to help me, or many of you out at all.
And finally, I did this all from work, showing you how much free time I have <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Rawr, voting against me? Yarr.. I have yet to be in the story even <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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brute_forces method of voting analysis makes sense, but don't forget to look at people laying low and avoiding aggression. Also, start with the smallest suspect group, see if you can rule any out, and go from there.
Yikes, walking confusion mine indeed.
I've been in contact with someone who knows someone. I'm not totally sure on this, but I'm trusting you, you_know_who.
Unless breakthrough does a good job explaining this away:
<b>breakthrough</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-Breakthrough+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Breakthrough)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I meant to hold my vote - I bolded TheMuffinMan because I was making a refrence to him...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For now, I'll vote for <b>Cyndane</b>, for the same reason as im lost. That, and she keeps claiming she's gonna kill me off <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I've been in contact with someone who knows someone. I'm not totally sure on this, but I'm trusting you, you_know_who. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, I'm curious now. What evidence you have on me? From my perspective, it seems that you're either working alone trying to get me lynched, or that someone is hiding behind you feeding you this info which you've seem to trust.
Come on IRC and chat with me... tell me your thoughts about this. If you don't trust me enough and think I'm going to manipulate your words, talk to another person, who is vocal on this forum, so that if there is manipulation, it'll be evident from the different facts/stories we give.
Current votes:
Cyndane - 2 (im lost, EMP Demon)
Breakthrough - 1 (Gwahir)
CMEast - 1 (Theslan)
Saltzbad - 1 (Saltzbad) [again?]
Theslan - 1 (Quaunaut)
Zerobyte - 1 (CMEast)
Or he's perma-AFK <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Wait... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Frankly, Im a little confused so far, and I am trying to think this over logically. Im trying this round of just ignore every other accusation people are posting (unless it's obvious) and think it through for myself. In old times, I would just vote for Petco out of spite but since I have no evidence against him, I won't. I don't see the need to sit here and make tons of posts making random accusations on half truths and little evidence. And when people do make a vote against me, I do voice my thoughts as I am doing. If I do believe I have a good reason to vote for someone, I will make my voice known. Alas, since I need to vote for someone and not get a phantom vote... we shall lay the bold letters on <b>Breakthrough</b>. Again, nothing major yet, just a vibe right now.
I'll vote for <b>Breakthrough,</b> he seems somewhat suspicious with his shiftyness and his.... breaking....
Sorry I'm so brief, I graduate in a little under 2 hours. I'll post some more.... exhaustive stuff later.
Cyndane - 2 (im lost, EMP Demon)
Breakthrough - 3 (Gwahir, Comprox, Legionnaired)
CMEast - 1 (Theslan)
Saltzbad - 1 (Saltzbad) [again?]
Theslan - 1 (Quaunaut)
Zerobyte - 1 (CMEast)
Comprox - 1 (Petco)
People that need to vote:
1. TheMuffinMan
6. brute force
9. Breakthrough
10. Mouse
11. Pulse
12. Cyndane
16. Mantrid
18. ZeroByte
Sky, with the forum being down for all of that time, is the day being extended?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[13:09:44] <@TheMuffinMan> brute, do you have any votes on you?
[13:10:10] <+brute_force> erm I dont think so
[13:10:15] <+brute_force> didn't have any last time I checked <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[13:10:18] <@TheMuffinMan> I'm going out, and probably won't be back in time for the end of the day. I was going to make a vote on the forums, but they are down
[13:10:19] <+brute_force> but that was last night
[13:10:26] <@TheMuffinMan> I'll place an IRC vote for you, then
[13:10:29] <+brute_force> lol
[13:10:51] <@TheMuffinMan> I don't suspect you in the least, but i have to vote for someone <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[13:11:00] <+brute_force> heh
[13:11:09] <@TheMuffinMan> I don't want to vote for anyone who already has votes incase it heats up
[13:11:09] <+brute_force> when does the day end?
[13:11:16] <@TheMuffinMan> 9 hours, iirc
[13:11:26] <+brute_force> oh :O
[13:11:34] <+brute_force> I should probably vote for someone then
[13:12:30] <@TheMuffinMan> If the forums come back online and you make a post, could you mention that i have voted for you?
[13:12:38] <+brute_force> er, not sure if that counts but sure
[13:12:50] <@TheMuffinMan> cheers<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Anyway, to return the favor, I vote for <b>TheMuffinMan</b>. I don't suspect you at all but I need to vote for someone, as I don't have much evidence on anyone at the moment. Also wondering if the day will be extended?
I am aware that this contradicts everything i have done so far, but i don't feel comfortable in voting for breakthrough or anyone else with more votes until i have at least <i>something</i> to go on. I am pretty sure that breakthrough is a human, as he appears honest and has given me no indication of being anything else.
... accusations are so... accusing. Never been comfortable with pointing fingers at people.
New sig quote.
Cyndane - 1 (EMP Demon)
Breakthrough - 3 (Gwahir, Comprox, Legionnaired)
CMEast - 1 (Theslan)
Saltzbad - 1 (Saltzbad) [again?]
Theslan - 1 (Quaunaut)
Comprox - 3 (Petco, CMEast, Breakthrough)
Legionnaired - 1 (im lost)
brute force - 1 (TheMuffinMan)
TheMuffinMan - 1 (brute force)
People that still need to vote
10. Mouse
11. Pulse
12. Cyndane
16. Mantrid
18. ZeroByte
Current vote count, going by the looking through all the posts.
Cyndane - 1 (EMP Demon)
CMEast - 1 (Theslan)
SaltzBad - 1 (SaltzBad)
Theslan - 1 (Quaunaut)
Breakthrough - 3 (Gwahir, Comprox, Legionnaired)
Comprox - 4 (Petco, CMEast, Breakthrough, ZeroByte)
Legionnaired - 1 (I'm_Lost)
TheMuffinMan - 1 (Brute Force)
Brute Force - 1 (TheMuffinMan)
Technically, it should be "im lost" and nothing else, because that's how you put it as your username, but I'm not one to get into technics...
I love saying that (technics)... Cool word <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Any scurvy seadog that posts beyond this point is a bilge rat... no, worse yet. A Land Lubber!
Arrr!
Day 2 will now end Sunday at 12 noon EST / 5PM GMT
Technically, it should be "im lost" and nothing else, because that's how you put it as your username, but I'm not one to get into technics...
I love saying that (technics)... Cool word <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My name should have an apostrophe. It was lost during the forum transition, which is stupid, since there's still people with exclamation points and question marks in their name. I use an underscore in IRC, that's why that part could make sense.
As for my bandwagoning on Satlz, I went onto IRC and asked people what was up with him before I voted. I checked to see if he was just a new player and didn't know what he was doing or if he was just messing around with us. Once I found out he is messing around, that can be good or bad. Now, if you think about it some. Satlzbad confused the wolves last game and helped the humans win. Saltz is acting confusing again. So, you think the wolves or psycho would get on that and kill him off to keep their heads a little clearer. Woops, he didn't die. Now, that may be due to them being too worried about both going for him, but I think they would try and kill him off, or vote him off if he was a human. Personally, that scares me still, as you never can have much evidence of what role he plays.
Now, my vote for Breakthrough, he voted for me last round. Alone that doesn't say much. But (no) thanks to Condizzle being voted off and after talking with a few people, I am fairly confident I have a few roles figured out. Not the wolves exactly, but maybe a few of the helpers. Now, he said he voted for me for 'no reason' which is fine by me, but, I think I know who NOT to vote for right now, and Breakthrough sure as heck isn't on that list.
As I said before also, I am just sitting here trying to figure this out in my head, blabbing away on the forums isn't going to help me, or many of you out at all.
And finally, I did this all from work, showing you how much free time I have <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Rawr, voting against me? Yarr.. I have yet to be in the story even <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->