My Rants About Competative Ns.

funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Just got into it, some strong feelings.</div> Some of you guys are just....elitists. A lot of you people think you're too good for us little pubbers, and are complete **** to everybody. It really bothers me how you guys are so good, yet some of the most frustrating **** I've ever played a game with. Now, I recently got into CAL-NS (Very recent, infact.) I haven't even played a match yet, but I'm up for the next match of our clan (From the Ashes). I'm excited, and its a lot of fun. For my first non public game, we scrimmed SuX. It was so much fun. Finally, I spent the game trying to reach an objective instead of herding my team into thinking that the objective was important enough to try for. SuX is a great bunch of guys, I know most of them well, and FTA is the most fun group of people I've played with (That is why I accepted their invitation, even though I was strongly Anti-CAL)
I realised it wasn't CAL I should be **** with, it was Elitists.

I. Hate. Elitists. To name some names <span style='color:red'>[Grendel Edit] No, Let's Not. Never do it again, in fact please. [/Edit]</span>. That guy needs some attitude adjusting medications (Maybe some morphine? Whatever to get him off of his high horse, and calm down.)

I ask simple questions of curiousity, and he rains down on me with all of this attitude. For example:

There is that wiggle walk script floating around, I know now what it is because someone who doesn't think anybody but their clan is a noob informed me.(Thank you, Swift Idiot.) I simply asked him "Hey shoe, how do you walk faster than the rest of us?" He replied: "Speedhacks, nub". It's small things like that that bother me about some of you elitists.

I don't know where I am going with this, I just think I needed to get my thoughts out to the CAL community before I started playing in matches, and maybe some of you will start thinking: "Hey, we all start out as pubbers. And you know what? NS would be nowhere without pubs."


*sigh*

edit: Thought I should just pre-clear some things up:

Do not take this as a blatent rant of hate against CAL or its players. What it is, however, is a statement that Elitists are ****.

Mods, delete this thread if you think it will start a flame war.
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  • airyKairyK Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11126Members
    If you have a problem with a person, theres no reason to come on here and say nasty things about them. How about getting to know said person and forming your opinion afterwards? Really you should be focusing on scrimming all that you can before your matches to better your selves. Don't worry about the actions of others, that doesnt apply to you. Complaining and worrying about such things wont do you any good. - basically what i mean, dont sweat it and keep playing.
  • FangsFangs Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13506Members
    Send those tightly wound players to my self-help class...

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=86424' target='_blank'>help</a>

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    totally agree with the first post, i see those type of players all the time in ns these days <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    not all clanners are like this, but it only takes a minority to ruin it.

    they should go play cs with the rest of their kind
  • SpaceJesusSpaceJesus Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29683Banned
    Sure some clanners are like that, but then again some pubbers are like that, you just have to learn to live with it.
    Either learn the tricks of the game like wiggle walking, wall strafing, marine bhopping off rails and stuff - or stop bitching about it. Okay it annoys you how these people are so good yet total arsewipes, hey you get that everywhere, it's only a minority.

    I could make the same generalisation about pub players saying that pubbers are all total noobs due to the amount of times I've been banned from pubs for aimbotting, wallhacking, "medspam scripting", scripting (okay fair enough but why ban someone for scripting on a bs_0 server?) and I actually got banned from a server for bunnyhopping before, having been told "its an exploit".

    I digress. The point is don't let the minority put you off, competetive NS is one of the best gaming experiences I've had. Just learn to tolerate or ignore the elitist idiots, and you're all set.
    In all honesty I'd consider myself an elitist, I get annoyed with pub players. But I'm trying to do something about it, it's called #nslearn.
  • AlbinoAlbino Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19841Members, NS1 Playtester
    This is the competitive discussion forum, not the competitive bashing forum. Get lost.
  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    Now imagine this. You realize he's being sarcastic.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There is that wiggle walk script floating around, I know now what it is because someone who doesn't think anybody but their clan is a noob informed me.(Thank you, Swift Idiot.) I simply asked him "Hey shoe, how do you walk faster than the rest of us?" He replied: "Speedhacks, nub". It's small things like that that bother me about some of you elitists.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    So you follow up with a, "Haha, no really."


    Then he answers you.


    Instead, you grab your keyboard and come here to complain. How are they being elitist? <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=elitism' target='_blank'>Do you even know what that word means?</a>

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Do you honestly think that he is associating groups here? No, we ALL come from the same background, therefore elitism is impossible. There is no royalty here. We are all pubbers.

    He is not being elitist, he is using a HIGH sense of sarcasm because I'm sure he's using to taking crap from crappy players who can't understand why a better player is beating them. By using sarcasm, he can sort out those who want to give him crap, and those who geniunely want help.

    Looks like you failed his small test.


    Had he said, "You don't derserve to know." Then yah, he's being elitist.

    Sounds like a case of <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sense%20of%20humor' target='_blank'>oversensitivity to me.</a>
  • Special_KSpecial_K Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15637Members, Constellation
    I agree, let's forget all about the elitist pubbers who treat competetive players poorly and just complain about those scripting sidestrafing elitist clanners.
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-airyK+Jan 17 2005, 06:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (airyK @ Jan 17 2005, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you have a problem with a person, theres no reason to come on here and say nasty things about them. How about getting to know said person and forming your opinion afterwards? Really you should be focusing on scrimming all that you can before your matches to better your selves. Don't worry about the actions of others, that doesnt apply to you. Complaining and worrying about such things wont do you any good. - basically what i mean, dont sweat it and keep playing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's not even 1 person. It seems that its the minority of clans that are friendly, funny, and fun to play with. I guess I'll just go out and get to know every single clan out there. Hopefully.


    A lot of your guys's posts make sense. I'll get lost and go scrim <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    lol, shoe

    He was probably using a speedup script, which I disapprove of <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    edited January 2005
    I'm confused, he asks an innocent question (trying to better educate himself about NS(which according to most clanners, they wish pubbers would do)), gets berated, comes on here to see if anyone has anything constructive to say and what he gets in return is "Get lost??" or.. "You should have asked him again"??? Or even better, deflection back to this mystical "pubber" who insulted a clanner as an excuse??

    How about someone simply say that the player in question acted poorly, and perhaps provide a link to said script??

    You talk a good game about wanting to help further NS, and this is just another example of you (as a group) failing to come through..

    Am I the only one puzzled by this??
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    From my experience, elitism is not exclusively to be found among clanners. Don't take remarks too seriously, most of the time it's just a joke.
  • AlbinoAlbino Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19841Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Jan 17 2005, 03:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Jan 17 2005, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some of you guys are just....elitists. A lot of you people think you're too good for us little pubbers, and are complete **** to everybody. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When I see blanked out words directed at me, my team and my friends especially when the person doesn't know us that means I don't have to be nice. I hope you understand.
  • aonomusaonomus Dedicated NS Mastermind (no need for school) Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23605Members, Constellation
    Wow way to be a douchebag...

    Unfortunately NS has become so competitive to the point where most people are starting to incorporate clan type skills (in)effectively into pubs, wall/strafewalking has been around for a long long time along with scripts that do various things. Elietism (if I can manage to spell it) is probably someone's way of saying 'pwned' but in a much worse way, to the effect that 'you suck at ns go play somewhere else'. It isnt just in competitive NS, but pubs and pugs too.
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    How is using tricks and skills in public play a bad thing ?
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Albino+Jan 17 2005, 04:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Albino @ Jan 17 2005, 04:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Jan 17 2005, 03:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Jan 17 2005, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Some of you guys are just....elitists. A lot of you people think you're too good for us little pubbers, and are complete **** to everybody. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When I see blanked out words directed at me, my team and my friends especially when the person doesn't know us that means I don't have to be nice. I hope you understand. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think he really means it.
  • SquishyOneSquishyOne Join Date: 2005-01-11 Member: 34963Members
    Sadly I have to agree with Zunni <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Bags you walk faster by strafing back and forth quickly while running. Not sure on how to make the script. BTW is it banned from cal guys? I mean to run fast?

    Anyway you guys hopped on funs **** way to quick. Aside from the occaisonal hackusation he's pretty cool for a com who drops tfs everywhere but he's workin on it.
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-SquishyOne+Jan 17 2005, 05:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SquishyOne @ Jan 17 2005, 05:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sadly I have to agree with Zunni <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Bags you walk faster by strafing back and forth quickly while running. Not sure on how to make the script. BTW is it banned from cal guys? I mean to run fast?

    Anyway you guys hopped on funs **** way to quick. Aside from the occaisonal hackusation he's pretty cool for a com who drops tfs everywhere but he's workin on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The _special version is illegal, but the regular one is not...
  • ArmageddonArmageddon Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
    Funbags, you were requesting that some good players, smurfing under names ilke |!|!|!|!|!|, be banned from pubs that you specifically played on because they were pwning your team or weren't listening when you commed...

    Look if you don't have anything nice to say about other people, don't come here and post about it. It's not going to benefit you or anyone else in the ns community if you trash talk and more importantly, it's not going to make them stop from pubbing.
  • SquishyOneSquishyOne Join Date: 2005-01-11 Member: 34963Members
    Funs requested to ban ||||||||||?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
    agree with zunni, and agreed with the person that said "clan skills" are being used in pubs now.

    people using l337 skills in pubs isnt the problem, hell, im not clanned and i do most of these "l337" things myself. its some of these guys attitudes that is the problem, looking down on us pubbers as if we are scum and know nothing about the game <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    edited January 2005
    Another Person joke, is another persons insult.
  • ArmageddonArmageddon Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SquishyOne+Jan 17 2005, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SquishyOne @ Jan 17 2005, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Funs requested to ban ||||||||||? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually it was 2 guys from eR that were smurfing under .disputed or something like that. They were owning (even though i had a higher K:D ratio than them) but they were not playing seriously and spend a lot of time trash talking after accusations from the aliens side that they were hacking. Then funbags asked, "can i request that these **** be banned?" to the admin, and both of the guys, in addition to some other random guy that was unrelated to them, but was quite skilled, got perma banned.

    No wonder so many of the severs have low quality people now(i'm not trying to say that new people are dumb, but just not knowledgable enough about the game to be proficient at it). Interestingly enough, these servers have average players, which, obviously, are better than the newbies, that yell at the new players for making mistakes and these new players accuse the average players of hacking. So you might as well ban everyone and call it quits -.-
  • ArmageddonArmageddon Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
    Btw i have nothing against funbags. He's a decent player but I think he needs a chill pill.
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    edited January 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-SquishyOne+Jan 17 2005, 06:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SquishyOne @ Jan 17 2005, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Funs requested to ban ||||||||||? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Blue is one of the coolest players I know <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Me and him are regulars over at Lone Peak Fortified. A lot of fun, i have with him.

    This thread wasn't complaining about scripts or anything, and I wasn't asking for any. Mainly... I just wanted to get my rants out.

    Albino, I said nothing towards you, or your clan. Chill out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Mainly, It's just that a lot of us pubbers would have so much more respect for some of these people if they stopped acting like they are superior.

    Hah, I was watching a demo of Terror....jesus christ....just...wow. Those guys are insanely good. I was playing with some of them on their server, and they are nice guys. Those are the clanners I respect. Sure, they own my hard, but they arent mean about it.

    I killed xen`shoe with a level 3 hmg with 2 teammates with HMG's with me. He started talking trash about me hacking, and specing. It's that kind of stuff that directly offends me. It's like he was saying since I wasn't in eXi, or reflect, or CO, that it's impossible for a noob like me to kill him.

    Basically I just needed some place to voice my feelings, and I thought the competative part of the NS forums was a good place. If it isn't, the mods can lock
    this.

    edit:

    armegedan, was it those lolol australian guys that were **** talking everyone on the server for being american? Those guys **** me off so much
  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zunni+Jan 17 2005, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Jan 17 2005, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm confused, he asks an innocent question (trying to better educate himself about NS(which according to most clanners, they wish pubbers would do)), gets berated, comes on here to see if anyone has anything constructive to say and what he gets in return is "Get lost??" or.. "You should have asked him again"??? Or even better, deflection back to this mystical "pubber" who insulted a clanner as an excuse??

    How about someone simply say that the player in question acted poorly, and perhaps provide a link to said script??

    You talk a good game about wanting to help further NS, and this is just another example of you (as a group) failing to come through..

    Am I the only one puzzled by this?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because, Zunni, I feel that the "player in question" did nothing wrong. A little sarcasm seems like a strange thing to blow up into a big deal. The question he asked this, player in question, was a good question. Unfortuantly, a bit of sarcasm seems to blow him away, and right away he try's turning this into a public ordeal.

    No one looks down at anyone, because that implies there is some sort of hierarchy. People need to stop looking at each player as a seperate group and realize when it comes down to it, we're all just a bunch of people trying to enjoy a video game.

    Had he come in here, or anywhere, and simply asked for the script, without the public harrasment of a player behind their back and totally uncalled for, I'd have gladly searched for it and explained to him how it worked, in detail if nessacary. Comeing to a forums complaining about poor treatment when he himself doesn't show adaquite behavior and decentcy seems a bit unjust.



    To you, Funbags- If you'd like this script however, I'll gladly help you out with it. I simply don't like your post.
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    edited January 2005
    <span style='color:red'>[Grendel Edit] Personal insults will get you into trouble. [/Edit]</span>
  • shoestershoester Join Date: 2003-10-30 Member: 22147Members
    edited January 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I killed xen`shoe with a level 3 hmg with 2 teammates with HMG's with me. He started talking trash about me hacking, and specing. It's that kind of stuff that directly offends me. It's like he was saying since I wasn't in eXi, or reflect, or CO, that it's impossible for a noob like me to kill him.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was just using that one as an example. xen`shoe is an **** to mostly everyone on the server that isnt in his clan.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


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  • SquishyOneSquishyOne Join Date: 2005-01-11 Member: 34963Members
    tbh thats kinda the way xen is in general. Just ignore em. I love you monkey. And silver doesn't really talk.
  • SilverWolfSilverWolf Join Date: 2003-05-20 Member: 16540Members
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SquishyOne+Jan 17 2005, 08:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SquishyOne @ Jan 17 2005, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> tbh thats kinda the way xen is in general. Just ignore em. I love you monkey. And silver doesn't really talk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah, that's what I encounter, except for HUA. He's a cool guy.
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