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sherpa

it depends what you want. if you want the horizontal speed boost from a sticky jump then you don't lose much health but it's not worth the 2-3 seconds shaved off your travel time.

and doing a vertical jump to get higher ground for a demoman is just dumb.

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1658076:date=Oct 27 2007, 01:52 PM:name=sherpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sherpa @ Oct 27 2007, 01:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658076"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->it depends what you want. if you want the horizontal speed boost from a sticky jump then you don't lose much health but it's not worth the 2-3 seconds shaved off your travel time.

and doing a vertical jump to get higher ground for a demoman is just dumb.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dono, traveling most of the map in Well in 1 jump seems like a good speed boost to me, but I dono, I can't do those jumps.

Buggy

Enough demoman talk, let's talk scouts! Best class or bestest class? That is, on about three maps, on servers that are typically <20 people, without engineers ruining your fun.

NeonSpyder

<!--quoteo(post=1658301:date=Oct 28 2007, 07:46 PM:name=Buggy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Buggy @ Oct 28 2007, 07:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658301"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Enough demoman talk, let's talk scouts! Best class or bestest class? That is, on about three maps, on servers that are typically <20 people, without engineers ruining your fun.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Scouts are the hardest class to use in my opinion. You move so fast that if you walk around a corner with a sentry you are dead meat with no way of recovering.

On the other hand, when they are no sentries around and big open spaces you are right-dandy. Only thing you have to worry about at that point really are ground-shooting soldiers. Aside from them, you're fine.

Kouji_San

Annoying little ######s is what they are. In tight areas though pyro light em up...

"yeah, why don't ya come over here and say that to my face thoughguy" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" /> I would if ya would hold still for a moment you pansie, WTH do you think this is... Pinball mode?

Still love to play as scout though <img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/style_images/1/folder_post_icons/icon6.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Liku

I hate Scouts, but I love Pyro's. I ordered the shirt, too bad it doesn't come in black.

So... the Friend's like These Achievement, let's get it! I just got the Hardcore Achievement today and the Friends one is the last left.

lolfighter

Doublejumping helps against soldiers. A lot.

Align

Scouts are bloody awesome on gravelpit.
Damn that map is my favoritest ever, with its great rocketjump spots, having to act quickly to defend both points, scoutability oloz and yeah.

Swiftspear

<!--quoteo(post=1655102:date=Oct 10 2007, 09:40 AM:name=NeonSpyder)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NeonSpyder @ Oct 10 2007, 09:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1655102"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, but don't change the subject. When you use scripts you play games with Satan by your side. Did you know that <i>back in the day</i> I used to be able to CLICK faster then some scripters could shoot their pistols in NS? That's right, no scripts baby just 100% pure finger.

And bunnyhopping, Do not get me started on that pastime of the morally questionable. Just bunnyhopping is bad enough, but scripting it?

Have you no shame?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So many things wrong with this post....

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1658315:date=Oct 28 2007, 09:33 PM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Oct 28 2007, 09:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658315"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hate Scouts, but I love Pyro's. I ordered the shirt, too bad it doesn't come in black.

So... the Friend's like These Achievement, let's get it! I just got the Hardcore Achievement today and the Friends one is the last left.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes!

I must break your stupid crap some more! (<img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)

So, I have enough people on my friends list, but like 1/2 of them are UK people, and some of them are Aussies.

I think I need to just get the rest of the bloody American's and hope for everyone to be on on one night.
I am going to be a ###### and do this again:
<a href="https://steamcommunity.com/id/Thansal" target="_blank">https://steamcommunity.com/id/Thansal</a>

Add me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

Then come and Dominate me! (god that sounds so wrong <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)

KungFuDiscoMonkey

<!--quoteo(post=1658354:date=Oct 29 2007, 08:52 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Oct 29 2007, 08:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658354"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Then come and Dominate me! (god that sounds so wrong <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Hahahah

A lot of us in #ns got the Friend's Like Us achievement by all joining the LM one evening. Over half the people there that night were from #ns.

DiscoZombie

bah, how do so many people have much higher Max Points and Max Kills than I do =p I regularly finish rounds with 2 times or 3 times the next best person's score... I'm not saying this to brag, I'm just amazed because that means some of you probably end rounds with like 100 points when the next best person has 10 points... the stats they choose to make prominent don't make much sense though IMO. score per minute would be the best stat to show and it's not visible. if you wanted to be really careful, you could probably get as many kills in a life as you want, or stay alive as long as you want, etc. but you wouldn't be doing as much for your team as you could...

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1658355:date=Oct 29 2007, 08:55 AM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Oct 29 2007, 08:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658355"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hahahah

A lot of us in #ns got the Friend's Like Us achievement by all joining the LM one evening. Over half the people there that night were from #ns.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yus, and I was not there ;(

<!--quoteo(post=1658359:date=Oct 29 2007, 10:00 AM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Oct 29 2007, 10:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658359"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->bah, how do so many people have much higher Max Points and Max Kills than I do =p I regularly finish rounds with 2 times or 3 times the next best person's score... I'm not saying this to brag, I'm just amazed because that means some of you probably end rounds with like 100 points when the next best person has 10 points... the stats they choose to make prominent don't make much sense though IMO. score per minute would be the best stat to show and it's not visible. if you wanted to be really careful, you could probably get as many kills in a life as you want, or stay alive as long as you want, etc. but you wouldn't be doing as much for your team as you could...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am with you 100% on that.

The max score thing is often a fluke.

Monkfish

<!--quoteo(post=1658342:date=Oct 29 2007, 08:46 AM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Oct 29 2007, 08:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658342"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Scouts are bloody awesome on gravelpit.
Damn that map is my favoritest ever, with its great rocketjump spots, having to act quickly to defend both points, scoutability oloz and yeah.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

oh god don't let shockwave see this

Shockeh

Hmmm?

Monkfish

nothing about scout rushing on gravelpit here that's for sure. move along old man.

locallyunscene

Scouts soldiers and demos in that order are my favorite. I feel like if you played them right you could take on almost any class(except I can never seem to hit pyros as a soldier, must be a mental thing).

Crispy

<!--quoteo(post=1658532:date=Oct 30 2007, 09:31 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Oct 30 2007, 09:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658532"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Scouts soldiers and demos in that order are my favorite. I feel like if you played them right you could take on almost any class(except I can never seem to hit pyros as a soldier, must be a mental thing).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Definitely a mental thing, Pyros go down easier than most; they are slow and have a flare that leads straight to where you need to shoot! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

Zor2

Since I started playing TF2, I've basically only played the Scout. The other classes feel too slow after prolonged Scout use. I also like to go for the objectives and win as quickly as possible which (normally) makes the Scout ideal. I find it really boring to camp a choke/flag or just frag here and there. 30 second wins ftw!

Crispy

Scout has a relatively low lifespan, though, so you could be spending less time waiting to respawn with another class like, say, the Soldier.

Zor2

<!--quoteo(post=1658560:date=Oct 30 2007, 07:12 PM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Oct 30 2007, 07:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658560"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Scout has a relatively low lifespan, though, so you could be spending less time waiting to respawn with another class like, say, the Soldier.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

V. true <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> Turrets are an absolute pain in the assss

Liku

I'm glad Scouts just get raped by Sentries, that Scattergun is such a pain in the ass to face.

sherpa

<!--quoteo(post=1658560:date=Oct 31 2007, 12:12 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Oct 31 2007, 12:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658560"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Scout has a relatively low lifespan, though, so you could be spending less time waiting to respawn with another class like, say, the Soldier.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

play it deathmatch style (i.e. count down medpack respawns) and you can live forever!

on that map with the trainyard (i'm going to look like a right ass if it actually <b>is</b> called trainyard) you get 1 large and 2 small meds at the mid cap point. i've played defense on that map before as scout and held the point for ages. his speed and general short range of tf2 weapons means you can just zoom on out of combat to heal up. worth it with some crazy high respawn times, imo.

i think the only class with a low lifespan that you can't really improve is the pyro. chances are to get in range to flame someone you put yourself in a crap position that gets a billion rockets and nades fired at you. i mean, im looking at my <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/id/sherpa/stats/TF2" target="_blank">stats</a> and my pyro score is way below my other scores, even though i've spent a lot of time as pyro.

Crispy

Whenever I see a Scout in Well's trainyard section I just shoot rockets at the meds. I know what you mean, though, barely anyone uses the meds in that room and it doesn't take much to get a Scout back up to full health again.

Kouji_San

Scout sentry trouble is what puts team in the name Team Fortress 2 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

Align

<!--quoteo(post=1658635:date=Oct 31 2007, 01:04 PM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Oct 31 2007, 01:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658635"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Whenever I see a Scout in Well's trainyard section I just shoot rockets at the meds. I know what you mean, though, barely anyone uses the meds in that room and it doesn't take much to get a Scout back up to full health again.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I think medpacks give some % of health, rather than a set value.

DiscoZombie

just played a buncha games with Svenpa - he's got skillz =p almost every round was him in first with me in second, despite the fact that he had a 150 ping.

Svenpa

<!--quoteo(post=1658721:date=Oct 31 2007, 10:08 PM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Oct 31 2007, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658721"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->just played a buncha games with Svenpa - he's got skillz =p almost every round was him in first with me in second, despite the fact that he had a 150 ping.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yeah, I was kind of baffled myself <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" /> Somehow it worked perfectly with my aim, when I shot where they stood a split second ago, I hit, especially with scout (didn't bother with sniper tho <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />). Zombie and I were medic in turns when it became rough to advance, good to have a partner you can count on giving uber and such. Crispy and I had this mad round in Dustbowl 3, he healed me while I was on a roll and got a crit on every 1/3 sticky bomb, probably killed 15 people in a single attack <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> (also got new damage record for demo the same round, 5630). Haven't played on US servers before, mostly EU with Crispy who tend to catch on fire a bit often.

Edit: Fixed name confusion + screenshot of said round.

<a href="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpdustbowl0007qc4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6811/cpdustbowl0007qc4.th.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>

Liku

<!--quoteo(post=1658721:date=Oct 31 2007, 03:08 PM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Oct 31 2007, 03:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658721"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->just played a buncha games with Svenpa - he's got skillz =p almost every round was him in first with me in second, despite the fact that he had a 150 ping.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
TF2 is all he seems to play, he has 18,000+ points.

Svenpa

Hey, I'm unemployed, you can't blame me for filling them empty hours with some sweet TF2. Which might change however, now that NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer is out.