<!--QuoteBegin-frostymoose+Jun 13 2004, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (frostymoose @ Jun 13 2004, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I could only think of 2
Starcraft and Halo <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i havent played halo but starcraft was amazing! sure it didnt have the best graphics... and it was kind of long.. but it had a solid good story line, multiplayer games were amazing, you could do like anything with the maps...
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<!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Jun 14 2004, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Jun 14 2004, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, the chucking rocks/people/animals/fireballs was great. I remember there was this one guy who was immortal, you could throw him, blast him, drown him, whatever, and he still lived. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i know the immortal guy that you speak of. (he can actually be used to "cheat" through level 3)
<span style='color:orange'>***SPOILER***</span> if you dont want to hear about an exploit in B&W, ignore the quoted text below
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:black'>if you "sacrifice" him to the enemies temple, he gets stuck in the dish, and you can wreak havoc upon his temple (although sacrificing his villagers works too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) once you have killed off his stuff, it cancels some of the game triggers (although you still have to capture the villages to free your creature)</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
:edit: oh yeah. Halo was fun, but i can understand why people keep complaining that they copy/pasted the same areas together to make maps
heh, i did that. I did everything to that little guy i could think of that didnt involve red hot pokers <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Wow, don't hate on games that were cool to be cool.
I don't know who said Red Faction was bad cuz it was really cool. I mean you could BLOW AWAY FREAKIN WALLS! Yeah you can do that in other games but nothing like what you could do in this game. YOU COULD FREAKIN EXCAVATE A TUNNEL AND MAKE YOUR OWN PATH!!! How is that not cool!
As for games I disliked, I thing one that comes to mind was, America. It was this RTS game that basically took place in America during Western times. It was really bad, soo many bugs and to play multiplayer, you had to hack the game.
Jim, the problem I had with Red Faction was because it was <b>not</b> every wall that could be destroyed. Only certain walls could be broken. That's nothing better than the Bazooka class in Day of Defeat. The feature, which I was expecting to be great, ended up feeling like a gimmick.
WHEN WILL DEVELOPERS LEARN THAT YOU CANNOT MIX TURN BASED AND REAL TIME WITHOUT MAKING BOTH A COMPLETELY BASTARDISED PILE OF CRAP! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It works for UFO: Aftermath.....
Well... this isn't quite the direction I'd wanted this thread to go but hey, the customer is always right I guess. *shrug*
And so i join in <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Deus Ex 2, its a good game, plenty of worse ones... such a let down as I think we all pretty much agree, I don't mind a game being made with a more efficient interface, getting rid of unnecessary complications etc but they just castrated it instead!
BG2 was amazing, NWN... yawn. Played through the whole of BG series with the same character, probably completed it about 4/5 times and I'm pretty sure I found everything there was to find. NWN just didn't capture my interest at all, I have no idea why, just no atmosphere.
I totally agree about Red Faction, the Geomod should have completely changed how FPS's were made, everything should have been fully deformable, new tactics, new weapons... everything! Instead you got walls with little 'shoot me' signs on. What a waste.
Diablo 2 although completely my fault. I think I got my Hardcore paladin up to lvl53 and died after I thought I'd killed everything on the screen. I had almost zero life left but didn't want to use a potion as I'd planned to warp into town straight away... but first I thought I'd see what I looked like in the new armour I'd picked up, and then in my old again, then in the new, old, new, old, new, then in no armour just for comparison... and then one of those desert wormy things hatched out of an egg which I somehow hadn't seen and killed me!
I lost all interest after that... my fault for being such an idiot.
B&W, fun game, should have been the god of all games instead of another god game. I loved playing around though, throwing stuff about, collecting sheep etc. Most annoying thing for me was I spent hours reading up on how to be good, I was kind, gentle, my villagers loved me. I was the perfect example of a God... except my creature refused to take my lead and was 100% evil... nothing I can do. Tried three times to make a good creature and all he'd do is eat people!
I wouldn't mind so much except my brother kept trying to make his creature as 'cool' as mine and kept complaining when all it wanted to do was water the crops and dance!
Mine only ever danced once... and in the process smashed 3 houses! Eventually my creature corrupted me and I found that yes, evil is fun. I used to get every villager to breed and then sacrafice almost every newborn boy to myself, I'd get loads of prayer power from that which more than made up for a lack of villager run resources. I got really good at catching and juggling fireballs too, used to mix them all together for massive fireballs then hurl them at enemy villages.
<!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+Jun 15 2004, 06:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ Jun 15 2004, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> B&W, fun game, should have been the god of all games instead of another god game. I loved playing around though, throwing stuff about, collecting sheep etc. Most annoying thing for me was I spent hours reading up on how to be good, I was kind, gentle, my villagers loved me. I was the perfect example of a God... except my creature refused to take my lead and was 100% evil... nothing I can do. Tried three times to make a good creature and all he'd do is eat people!
I wouldn't mind so much except my brother kept trying to make his creature as 'cool' as mine and kept complaining when all it wanted to do was water the crops and dance!
Mine only ever danced once... and in the process smashed 3 houses! Eventually my creature corrupted me and I found that yes, evil is fun. I used to get every villager to breed and then sacrafice almost every newborn boy to myself, I'd get loads of prayer power from that which more than made up for a lack of villager run resources. I got really good at catching and juggling fireballs too, used to mix them all together for massive fireballs then hurl them at enemy villages. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL juggling fireballs, wee
I thought Black and White was pretty damn fun. Except it's one of the very few games I played and didn't finish. I just got sick of being pelted with fireballs in whatever that level was. My monkey was awesome, he could cast fireball increase and storm increase. I hate trainer maps by the way.
Halo was... decent. It was fun. It had <i>Style</i>. Pity that you had to walk though the same goddamned rooms a zillion times over. It's a good thing those zombies were so much fun to blow apart with the shotgun.
<!--QuoteBegin-Aegeri+Jun 14 2004, 07:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Jun 14 2004, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Umbraed Monkey+Jun 14 2004, 06:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Jun 14 2004, 06:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ps: the comment about dude hating ff series and yet played it all through...ROFL <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah I found that a little odd. Surely if you hated the first games, you wouldn't play the last games (just common sense). How many hours would they have wasted on a series they hated? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> (note: using to Japanese numbering) At first I'd only played Final Fantasy, FF Mystic Quest, and FF Legends 1-3. I liked those games for the most part. So I decided to check out some more of the series: FF Adventures, FFII, and FFVIII. They sucked. So I gave up on that series for a while and didn't play any of the others... up until about 2 years ago.
My friends don't undertand why I'm angry at FF. The blame it on the fact that I haven't played the "good ones". They have a good point... I haven't. They tell me how FFVI and FFVII will make me love it again. So to step out of ignorance I play them. They suck. I hear FFIX came out recently and fixed evertyhing. I try it and it's decent... but not very fun.
So I'm again angry at FF, but people say it's not fair to complain about the ones I haven't played. True. So I play them. Finally... FF Tactics I played as a carry over from Tactics Ogre and Crystal Chronicals I've played 3 or 4 times at parties.
Now I have arguments against them... I hate most of that series I and can back it up with research. Wanna blindly argue that the ones YOU haven't played are good? Cool... open your mouth and remove all doubt of your ignorance.
PS: I'm a game programmer... I don't play games JUST to play them. I play them to learn how to make them (not suck). <b>You've only wasted hours on the FF series if you LIKED it.</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-<[POOP]> Akira+Jun 13 2004, 05:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (<[POOP]> Akira @ Jun 13 2004, 05:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The "end" of Jet Force Gemini. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL do I remember that one or what. No game has gotten me more **** off at the end then Jet Force Gemini. After you've saved the world "GGO SAEV AAL FO MYY BAEAR FRENDS!?!?!TEHN I Gi\/3 yuo Teh shpi Peece!1121~~~"
LoZ: Windwaker was pretty cool, up until the FIND ALL OF TEH TRIFORCE PIECARS! And then beating 'Ganon' after beating puppet ganon was the easiest boss I have ever played. I told my friends the controls and they hadn't played the game once and beat him on the first try. And then the ending of LoZ: Majora's Mask had you fight the mask and if you actually tried to get some good stuff (the ever-lasting magic milk drink, and the mask that turns you into some big older Link person thingy) you could beat him in a few seconds.
<!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Jun 15 2004, 03:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Jun 15 2004, 03:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fortunately, I think Black & White 2 won't disappoint. Mostly because Lionhead have been actively seeking feedback about the first game, and have been working to address its deficiencies. I think of B&W almost as the prototype for the second one. Now, I'm still not so sure I want to buy B&W 2 when it comes out (I've got enough on my plate already), but I think it'll turn out much, much better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree, but you know, Molyneux already got my 50 bucks for the game he promises will be released with B&W2. I won't throw more money down his throat after him selling what you rightfully described as a prototype to me.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jun 15 2004, 05:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 15 2004, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Jun 15 2004, 03:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Jun 15 2004, 03:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Fortunately, I think Black & White 2 won't disappoint. Mostly because Lionhead have been actively seeking feedback about the first game, and have been working to address its deficiencies. I think of B&W almost as the prototype for the second one. Now, I'm still not so sure I want to buy B&W 2 when it comes out (I've got enough on my plate already), but I think it'll turn out much, much better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree, but you know, Molyneux already got my 50 bucks for the game he promises will be released with B&W2. I won't throw more money down his throat after him selling what you rightfully described as a prototype to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, 100 bucks for a very good game can be justified <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CMEast: Didnt the 4 minibosses (not to mention the rest of the dungeon) just before Kefka give you an idea how overpowered you were? If your 3 weakest (I sure hope you meant 4 ;p) took out Kefka, they woulda been less than a breeze to defeat.
And yea, level 99 is waaay overkill. Sabin at level ~85 with Genji Glove and Offering can take the first 3 parts alone.
ps: the comment about dude hating ff series and yet played it all through...ROFL <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah I went to his castley thing at about level 35... and got OWNED HARD. Lol. I have a habit of running from all but the major battles in ff out of boredom. Then I'm stuck fighting a boss that does 2x my current max hp... ah well. Like fighting those damn magus sisters with 500 hp and nowhere to lvl.
I can't really remember Jet Force Gemini except for the fact that i was up to the part where i had all but the last ship piece.
honestly, who can be arsed to go through ALL the levels rescuing the things that are the most fun to kill.
Although the game rocked, sniper rifle carnage for the win <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
P.S. finally i got my own avatar <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> w00p
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 14 2004, 09:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 14 2004, 09:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jim, the problem I had with Red Faction was because it was <b>not</b> every wall that could be destroyed. Only certain walls could be broken. That's nothing better than the Bazooka class in Day of Defeat. The feature, which I was expecting to be great, ended up feeling like a gimmick. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It wasn't a gimmick because this is technically the first someone has ever really done something at this level. Of course not all walls could be destroyed! But a majority of them could and thats what matters. Usually you couldn't shoot through some walls because they were a thick steel but I think the game would suck if you could shoot through everything...
I would definately play that game again if anyone hasn't played it.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 15 2004, 08:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 15 2004, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's what it felt to me, Scythe. It didn't seem deformable, but rather just scripted events. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I wouldn't go that far, but it was certainly limited. Stuff like blowing up a bridge to drop an APC into a chasm was great fun, but the game just didn't capitalise on the feature throughout.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 16 2004, 05:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 16 2004, 05:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's what it felt to me, Scythe. It didn't seem deformable, but rather just scripted events. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Um... I didn't mention Red Faction in my most recent post. I think you saw "Jim has Skillz" using my avatar and assume it was me. ^_^
Red Faction's deformable terrain had so much bloody potential And it was pretty fun to play with but... It didn't really change the game all that much.
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glance at sigs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
otherwise you will think that twit with the 'unchain the chambers' avatar is spaming WAY to much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
otherwise you will think that twit with the 'unchain the chambers' avatar is spaming WAY to much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> lol yes, he's EVERYWHERE! screw the I&S forum, we have our avatars!
Go on, let it all out, I'll be here for you as I know what pain you are feeling. Until I broke down and told someone about how Moo3 had its way with my pets and killed them, I was a miserable lonely man. Don't let it cut you up on the inside too!
[Yes, that game was painful, very painful. Ironically, my statistics professor really liked it]
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 15 2004, 11:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 15 2004, 11:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's what it felt to me, Scythe. It didn't seem deformable, but rather just scripted events. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You obviously really didn't play the game then because the practice level was basically a big room with a rocket launcher, and ceiling wasn't the limit... I seriously spent hours making tunnels all around the map, I even made my own stairs to the top of the ceiling(which was really high). It was really fun, RF2 was a big let down though because of no multiplayer support <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> Overall I enjoyed the game. Yes they could have done more with the exploding walls but it was a really good first start that I hope new games will incorporate into their games.
Thats the point Jim, the practice level was great fun, digging tunnels etc (reached the limit for deforming, took ages). However the ability to destroy terrain should have opened up so many opportunities and it just didn't. It was just another FPS which you would have to complete the same was as all the others. I really hoped there would be some great mods out for it but I haven't heard about any.
When I first heard about the manipulator in HL2 I had this sinking feeling it would end up a gimmick where you used it for certain sections and thats it. Thankfully it does seem to fulfil its potential so far... we'll have to see though.
Yeah, the thing about Red Faction was I thought that the makers of the game expected you to be a lot more intellectual than the average player. For example, finding a creative way around an obstacle... I once was trying to get onto this drilling machine, so I destroyed a nearby pillar and made a staircase out of it, so I could just on top (where the access hatch was). I then realized that Use was mapped to Enter, not E, so I pressed Enter when I was on top of the machine and got in. Later, I died and went back to the save, and I realized you could get in by just standing next to the machine and pressing Enter. So all the work was for nothing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also, in the section where you get to fly around in the plane, I was trying to drop the stalagmites on top of soldiers on the ground... it didn't work <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Although in terms of being a shooter, Red Faction was a very cool game, especially with the vehicles you could use. Just the destructible terrain wasn't good enough.
Another game that was a letdown for me was Command and Conquer Tiberium (edit) <b>Dawn</b>, Gold Edition. This was when they re-released C&C with Red-Alert quality graphics. I thought they would at least put in a "skirmish" mode where you could fight against the computer in a multiplayer-style game... nope! They didn't even fix any bugs. All they did was port the artwork over from Red Alert (all the build icons were taken from Red Alert minus a few), change the price of the bazooka soldier to $300, and make the graphics higher-res. That was IT. I felt so supremely cheated. That's why I think the original C&C should be re-released with the RA2 or Generals engine... with no balance changes, nothing... just better graphics and more gameplay options.
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Halo <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i havent played halo but starcraft was amazing!
sure it didnt have the best graphics... and it was kind of long.. but it had a solid good story line, multiplayer games were amazing, you could do like anything with the maps...
i wanna play sc now...
i know the immortal guy that you speak of.
(he can actually be used to "cheat" through level 3)
<span style='color:orange'>***SPOILER***</span>
if you dont want to hear about an exploit in B&W, ignore the quoted text below
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:black'>if you "sacrifice" him to the enemies temple, he gets stuck in the dish, and you can wreak havoc upon his temple (although sacrificing his villagers works too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) once you have killed off his stuff, it cancels some of the game triggers (although you still have to capture the villages to free your creature)</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
:edit:
oh yeah. Halo was fun, but i can understand why people keep complaining that they copy/pasted the same areas together to make maps
I don't know who said Red Faction was bad cuz it was really cool. I mean you could BLOW AWAY FREAKIN WALLS! Yeah you can do that in other games but nothing like what you could do in this game. YOU COULD FREAKIN EXCAVATE A TUNNEL AND MAKE YOUR OWN PATH!!! How is that not cool!
As for games I disliked, I thing one that comes to mind was, America. It was this RTS game that basically took place in America during Western times. It was really bad, soo many bugs and to play multiplayer, you had to hack the game.
Also a couple other games I can't think of.
Im not going to spoil it for the young uns though, its just I expected a little bit more after spending too long trying to beat the game.
WHEN WILL DEVELOPERS LEARN THAT YOU CANNOT MIX TURN BASED AND REAL TIME WITHOUT MAKING BOTH A COMPLETELY BASTARDISED PILE OF CRAP!
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It works for UFO: Aftermath.....
Nem0 sums up exactly how I behaved before and after B&W's release. I think I just wanted it to be great. I even ordered it across from the States.
And so i join in <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Deus Ex 2, its a good game, plenty of worse ones... such a let down as I think we all pretty much agree, I don't mind a game being made with a more efficient interface, getting rid of unnecessary complications etc but they just castrated it instead!
BG2 was amazing, NWN... yawn. Played through the whole of BG series with the same character, probably completed it about 4/5 times and I'm pretty sure I found everything there was to find. NWN just didn't capture my interest at all, I have no idea why, just no atmosphere.
I totally agree about Red Faction, the Geomod should have completely changed how FPS's were made, everything should have been fully deformable, new tactics, new weapons... everything! Instead you got walls with little 'shoot me' signs on. What a waste.
Diablo 2 although completely my fault. I think I got my Hardcore paladin up to lvl53 and died after I thought I'd killed everything on the screen. I had almost zero life left but didn't want to use a potion as I'd planned to warp into town straight away... but first I thought I'd see what I looked like in the new armour I'd picked up, and then in my old again, then in the new, old, new, old, new, then in no armour just for comparison... and then one of those desert wormy things hatched out of an egg which I somehow hadn't seen and killed me!
I lost all interest after that... my fault for being such an idiot.
B&W, fun game, should have been the god of all games instead of another god game. I loved playing around though, throwing stuff about, collecting sheep etc. Most annoying thing for me was I spent hours reading up on how to be good, I was kind, gentle, my villagers loved me. I was the perfect example of a God... except my creature refused to take my lead and was 100% evil... nothing I can do. Tried three times to make a good creature and all he'd do is eat people!
I wouldn't mind so much except my brother kept trying to make his creature as 'cool' as mine and kept complaining when all it wanted to do was water the crops and dance!
Mine only ever danced once... and in the process smashed 3 houses! Eventually my creature corrupted me and I found that yes, evil is fun. I used to get every villager to breed and then sacrafice almost every newborn boy to myself, I'd get loads of prayer power from that which more than made up for a lack of villager run resources. I got really good at catching and juggling fireballs too, used to mix them all together for massive fireballs then hurl them at enemy villages.
I wouldn't mind so much except my brother kept trying to make his creature as 'cool' as mine and kept complaining when all it wanted to do was water the crops and dance!
Mine only ever danced once... and in the process smashed 3 houses! Eventually my creature corrupted me and I found that yes, evil is fun. I used to get every villager to breed and then sacrafice almost every newborn boy to myself, I'd get loads of prayer power from that which more than made up for a lack of villager run resources. I got really good at catching and juggling fireballs too, used to mix them all together for massive fireballs then hurl them at enemy villages. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL
juggling fireballs, wee
Halo was... decent. It was fun. It had <i>Style</i>. Pity that you had to walk though the same goddamned rooms a zillion times over. It's a good thing those zombies were so much fun to blow apart with the shotgun.
--Scythe--
P.S. /me waves frantically at mole! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Yeah I found that a little odd. Surely if you hated the first games, you wouldn't play the last games (just common sense). How many hours would they have wasted on a series they hated? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
(note: using to Japanese numbering)
At first I'd only played Final Fantasy, FF Mystic Quest, and FF Legends 1-3. I liked those games for the most part. So I decided to check out some more of the series: FF Adventures, FFII, and FFVIII. They sucked. So I gave up on that series for a while and didn't play any of the others... up until about 2 years ago.
My friends don't undertand why I'm angry at FF. The blame it on the fact that I haven't played the "good ones". They have a good point... I haven't. They tell me how FFVI and FFVII will make me love it again. So to step out of ignorance I play them. They suck. I hear FFIX came out recently and fixed evertyhing. I try it and it's decent... but not very fun.
So I'm again angry at FF, but people say it's not fair to complain about the ones I haven't played. True. So I play them. Finally... FF Tactics I played as a carry over from Tactics Ogre and Crystal Chronicals I've played 3 or 4 times at parties.
Now I have arguments against them... I hate most of that series I and can back it up with research. Wanna blindly argue that the ones YOU haven't played are good? Cool... open your mouth and remove all doubt of your ignorance.
PS: I'm a game programmer... I don't play games JUST to play them. I play them to learn how to make them (not suck). <b>You've only wasted hours on the FF series if you LIKED it.</b>
LOL do I remember that one or what. No game has gotten me more **** off at the end then Jet Force Gemini. After you've saved the world "GGO SAEV AAL FO MYY BAEAR FRENDS!?!?!TEHN I Gi\/3 yuo Teh shpi Peece!1121~~~"
LoZ: Windwaker was pretty cool, up until the FIND ALL OF TEH TRIFORCE PIECARS! And then beating 'Ganon' after beating puppet ganon was the easiest boss I have ever played. I told my friends the controls and they hadn't played the game once and beat him on the first try. And then the ending of LoZ: Majora's Mask had you fight the mask and if you actually tried to get some good stuff (the ever-lasting magic milk drink, and the mask that turns you into some big older Link person thingy) you could beat him in a few seconds.
I agree, but you know, Molyneux already got my 50 bucks for the game he promises will be released with B&W2. I won't throw more money down his throat after him selling what you rightfully described as a prototype to me.
I agree, but you know, Molyneux already got my 50 bucks for the game he promises will be released with B&W2. I won't throw more money down his throat after him selling what you rightfully described as a prototype to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, 100 bucks for a very good game can be justified <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CMEast: Didnt the 4 minibosses (not to mention the rest of the dungeon) just before Kefka give you an idea how overpowered you were? If your 3 weakest (I sure hope you meant 4 ;p) took out Kefka, they woulda been less than a breeze to defeat.
And yea, level 99 is waaay overkill. Sabin at level ~85 with Genji Glove and Offering can take the first 3 parts alone.
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Yeah I went to his castley thing at about level 35... and got OWNED HARD. Lol. I have a habit of running from all but the major battles in ff out of boredom. Then I'm stuck fighting a boss that does 2x my current max hp... ah well. Like fighting those damn magus sisters with 500 hp and nowhere to lvl.
honestly, who can be arsed to go through ALL the levels rescuing the things that are the most fun to kill.
Although the game rocked, sniper rifle carnage for the win <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
P.S. finally i got my own avatar <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> w00p
It wasn't a gimmick because this is technically the first someone has ever really done something at this level. Of course not all walls could be destroyed! But a majority of them could and thats what matters. Usually you couldn't shoot through some walls because they were a thick steel but I think the game would suck if you could shoot through everything...
I would definately play that game again if anyone hasn't played it.
here all of my time plaing HL (and prior games) must have been a drug induced halucination.....
cool.
seriously, many games had destroyable structures, walls etc.
They might have made it look sorta better, but it was not deformable terain.
I wouldn't go that far, but it was certainly limited. Stuff like blowing up a bridge to drop an APC into a chasm was great fun, but the game just didn't capitalise on the feature throughout.
Um... I didn't mention Red Faction in my most recent post. I think you saw "Jim has Skillz" using my avatar and assume it was me. ^_^
Red Faction's deformable terrain had so much bloody potential And it was pretty fun to play with but... It didn't really change the game all that much.
--Scythe--
otherwise you will think that twit with the 'unchain the chambers' avatar is spaming WAY to much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
otherwise you will think that twit with the 'unchain the chambers' avatar is spaming WAY to much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol
yes, he's EVERYWHERE!
screw the I&S forum, we have our avatars!
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Go on, let it all out, I'll be here for you as I know what pain you are feeling. Until I broke down and told someone about how Moo3 had its way with my pets and killed them, I was a miserable lonely man. Don't let it cut you up on the inside too!
[Yes, that game was painful, very painful. Ironically, my statistics professor really liked it]
You obviously really didn't play the game then because the practice level was basically a big room with a rocket launcher, and ceiling wasn't the limit... I seriously spent hours making tunnels all around the map, I even made my own stairs to the top of the ceiling(which was really high). It was really fun, RF2 was a big let down though because of no multiplayer support <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> Overall I enjoyed the game. Yes they could have done more with the exploding walls but it was a really good first start that I hope new games will incorporate into their games.
When I first heard about the manipulator in HL2 I had this sinking feeling it would end up a gimmick where you used it for certain sections and thats it. Thankfully it does seem to fulfil its potential so far... we'll have to see though.
Later, I died and went back to the save, and I realized you could get in by just standing next to the machine and pressing Enter. So all the work was for nothing <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also, in the section where you get to fly around in the plane, I was trying to drop the stalagmites on top of soldiers on the ground... it didn't work <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Although in terms of being a shooter, Red Faction was a very cool game, especially with the vehicles you could use. Just the destructible terrain wasn't good enough.
Another game that was a letdown for me was Command and Conquer Tiberium (edit) <b>Dawn</b>, Gold Edition. This was when they re-released C&C with Red-Alert quality graphics. I thought they would at least put in a "skirmish" mode where you could fight against the computer in a multiplayer-style game... nope!
They didn't even fix any bugs. All they did was port the artwork over from Red Alert (all the build icons were taken from Red Alert minus a few), change the price of the bazooka soldier to $300, and make the graphics higher-res. That was IT. I felt so supremely cheated.
That's why I think the original C&C should be re-released with the RA2 or Generals engine... with no balance changes, nothing... just better graphics and more gameplay options.