<!--QuoteBegin--Hawkeye+Nov 10 2003, 01:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Nov 10 2003, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anybody else think the battle against bane was a little.. gorey?
They showed a closeup of bane's face after his nose was severed from his face partially, and thought I heard most of the audience shift in their seats. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not to mention that brief shot of Neo's face. Good lord, I hope I was just imagining it, but I thought I seen some semi-dried whitish colored eyeball puss from when the high voltage wire popped his eyeballs like grapes in the microwave. *stomach turns* I wouldn't ask them to change it though.
That's how electrical burns look. My mother is a nurse, and when we watch ER I basically ask if that's how stuff looks. One episode had electrical burns. Yep, Neo's burns are what they really look like.
and The Matrix trilogy is jampacked full of Philosophical references that you don't have to know if you want to understand the surface of the movies.
Room 101 has so many things connected.
The infinite hallway of doors from one of the books by the guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland (can't remember his name)
This movie has made me officially hate the entire matrix trilogy. And I even liked the first one... but I can't block out how bad the second and third movies were.
<!--QuoteBegin--Smoke Nova+Nov 10 2003, 06:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smoke Nova @ Nov 10 2003, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The infinite hallway of doors from one of the books by the guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland (can't remember his name) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Lewis Carroll
Alice in Wonderland, Talk about a confusing book..not the movie, read the actual book, I have, I had to look on the net to explain it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Jabberwocky+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jabberwocky)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!"
He took his vorpal sword in hand: Long time the manxome foe he sought -- So rested he by the Tumtum tree, And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back.
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I prefer the American McGee's Alice version...y'know, where you use a deck of cards and a croquet mallet to take out the Jabberwock...so you can use his Eye for a Staff of Jabberwock.
Lewis Carroll was a mathmatician (sp?) and a logician (actual word?), and he incorporates alot of logic into his works....One example was the scene with Alice talking to the flowers. She asked them why they could talk, and they said "Feel the Dirt". She did and it was rock hard. THe flowers said if the ground was soft, they would be asleep and not talk to her, since it is hard, they can't sleep, thereby they are able to talk to her.
Logic in a weird sense. Its really a confusing book, its hard to follow.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I prefer the American McGee's Alice version...y'know, where you use a deck of cards and a croquet mallet to take out the Jabberwock...so you can use his Eye for a Staff of Jabberwock. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aha, the twisted version of Alice in wonderland. THe Jabberwock was cool though, representing the fire and basically the beginning of Alices descent into madness (at least thats how I got it)
<!--QuoteBegin--Burr+Nov 11 2003, 01:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Nov 11 2003, 01:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lewis Carroll was a mathmatician (sp?) and a logician (actual word?) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Don't forget Pedophile. :P
p.s. Revolutions sucked. I mean its nice that it has all this background info that can fill up 12 pages of a forum discussing what it may or may not mean, but its stupid that a movie cannot be enjoyed w/o such research...
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<!--QuoteBegin--Smoke Nova+Nov 11 2003, 12:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smoke Nova @ Nov 11 2003, 12:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I prefer the American McGee's Alice version...y'know, where you use a deck of cards and a croquet mallet to take out the Jabberwock...so you can use his Eye for a Staff of Jabberwock. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Agreed, what a great game.
<!--QuoteBegin--Smoke Nova+Nov 10 2003, 04:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Smoke Nova @ Nov 10 2003, 04:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Room 101 has so many things connected. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What about the number in general? I remember Merv was on the 101st floor in Reloaded.
<!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Nov 5 2003, 11:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Nov 5 2003, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On that last subject of why Neo can "see" in the "real world"
If popular observation has shown the Matrix to be represented by green and the real world to be represented by blue, what does the red represent to fill the RGB pallette? I've only seen it once, and can't seem to decide whether red represents understanding, or the mind's separation from the body, or... ...gah, must see Reloaded & Revolutions back to back sometime.
[edit]Did anyone else consider that infantry volunteer woman with the dual rocket launcher to be equally or more attractive than Persephone? Could just be that I'm wierd, but I prefer bad*** women over most "ooh, I love just sitting around and <i>looking pretty</i>" women. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I like tomboys, but I also especially like girls like Persephone
I like both <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
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*Beggining of The Daily Show* Jon Stewart: We've got a great show today folks, the star of the #1 movie in America, Will Farrel! But you say "Matrix Revolutions is the #1 movie in America." Well, yes. But it <i>blows</i>. And at the Daily Show we dont count the movies that <i>blow</i>.
I applaud Trinity for having a good survival rate with 3 metal rods in the stomach, and a totally uninteresting speech.
"I.. huh I think I can't follow you..." "why?" *camera reveals wounds* "oh.. But you can't die!!!!!" "oh yes I can die" "no you can't. "yes I can now whatever blahblahblah kiss me" *hugs and trinity dies*
I think they worked quite well to go around the fact the first Oracle died <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
What reason did they have that she didn't look like herself? She said something like "We all make choices." What choice did she make which caused her to look different?
And why is it that she pronounces her s's as sh's?
<!--QuoteBegin--Hawkeye+Nov 12 2003, 04:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Nov 12 2003, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What reason did they have that she didn't look like herself? She said something like "We all make choices." What choice did she make which caused her to look different?
And why is it that she pronounces her s's as sh's? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because the original actress that played her passed away.
Has anyone gotten that room 101 is also from 1984 yet?
<!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Nov 12 2003, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Nov 12 2003, 09:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Hawkeye+Nov 12 2003, 04:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Nov 12 2003, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What reason did they have that she didn't look like herself? She said something like "We all make choices." What choice did she make which caused her to look different?
And why is it that she pronounces her s's as sh's? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Because the original actress that played her passed away.
Has anyone gotten that room 101 is also from 1984 yet? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nono.. what was their reason in the movie?
Maybe that's because Smith infected their programming, Doom|Nublet <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
They would be the first thigs I'd go after if I were Smith, for sure.
Maybe it's also that Smith infected one of the agents @ the Burly brawl, so that one was no longer available. Notice how during the Freeway, only two agents are there, when 3 attacked Neo @ the Meeting in the beginning.
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They showed a closeup of bane's face after his nose was severed from his face partially, and thought I heard most of the audience shift in their seats. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not to mention that brief shot of Neo's face. Good lord, I hope I was just imagining it, but I thought I seen some semi-dried whitish colored eyeball puss from when the high voltage wire popped his eyeballs like grapes in the microwave. *stomach turns*
I wouldn't ask them to change it though.
and The Matrix trilogy is jampacked full of Philosophical references that you don't have to know if you want to understand the surface of the movies.
Room 101 has so many things connected.
The infinite hallway of doors from one of the books by the guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland (can't remember his name)
Lewis Carroll
Alice in Wonderland, Talk about a confusing book..not the movie, read the actual book, I have, I had to look on the net to explain it.
Thanks Burr.
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Logic in a weird sense. Its really a confusing book, its hard to follow.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I prefer the American McGee's Alice version...y'know, where you use a deck of cards and a croquet mallet to take out the Jabberwock...so you can use his Eye for a Staff of Jabberwock. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aha, the twisted version of Alice in wonderland. THe Jabberwock was cool though, representing the fire and basically the beginning of Alices descent into madness (at least thats how I got it)
Don't forget Pedophile. :P
p.s. Revolutions sucked. I mean its nice that it has all this background info that can fill up 12 pages of a forum discussing what it may or may not mean, but its stupid that a movie cannot be enjoyed w/o such research...
Agreed, what a great game.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't forget Pedophile. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Disgusting... like Edgar Allan Poe!
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What about the number in general? I remember Merv was on the 101st floor in Reloaded.
Room 101 is from Orwell's book <u>1984</u>.
that is all
If popular observation has shown the Matrix to be represented by green and the real world to be represented by blue, what does the red represent to fill the RGB pallette? I've only seen it once, and can't seem to decide whether red represents understanding, or the mind's separation from the body, or...
...gah, must see Reloaded & Revolutions back to back sometime.
[edit]Did anyone else consider that infantry volunteer woman with the dual rocket launcher to be equally or more attractive than Persephone? Could just be that I'm wierd, but I prefer bad*** women over most "ooh, I love just sitting around and <i>looking pretty</i>" women. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like tomboys, but I also especially like girls like Persephone
I like both <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
*Beggining of The Daily Show*
Jon Stewart: We've got a great show today folks, the star of the #1 movie in America, Will Farrel! But you say "Matrix Revolutions is the #1 movie in America." Well, yes. But it <i>blows</i>. And at the Daily Show we dont count the movies that <i>blow</i>.
/my 2 cents
Don't forget Pedophile. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That was never proven.
"I.. huh I think I can't follow you..."
"why?"
*camera reveals wounds*
"oh.. But you can't die!!!!!"
"oh yes I can die"
"no you can't.
"yes I can now whatever blahblahblah kiss me"
*hugs and trinity dies*
I think they worked quite well to go around the fact the first Oracle died <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
What choice did she make which caused her to look different?
And why is it that she pronounces her s's as sh's?
What choice did she make which caused her to look different?
And why is it that she pronounces her s's as sh's? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because the original actress that played her passed away.
Has anyone gotten that room 101 is also from 1984 yet?
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just let me fill up this bong here, and I'll take another look at that in a minute...
What choice did she make which caused her to look different?
And why is it that she pronounces her s's as sh's? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because the original actress that played her passed away.
Has anyone gotten that room 101 is also from 1984 yet? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nono.. what was their reason in the movie?
There aren't any agents at all in Revolutions. None. Zero. at all... interesting.
Oh yeah, maybe cause its only in the Matrix for a total of 20 minutes... :X
They would be the first thigs I'd go after if I were Smith, for sure.