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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But in windowed mode, it would always use the desktop refresh rate, so it wouldn't matter, right? Looks like VALVe has some stuff to re-think.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You can set the refresh rate to whatever you want even in full screen mode. But you need to poke around in the registry, and you can't be forcing a different refresh rate with some other tool.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I have to delete the CSS folder before each time I play.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Set a batch file then <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    delete the folder
    then execute halflife.exe

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ah, .bat.. how i love the <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 19 2004, 12:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 19 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Right now theres an exploit that allows you to pause the game for everyone. Real lame. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There was a way to pause the game in the standard hl mods if the server allowed it and they usually did by default I'd guess.

    The Pause button <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    First I have to play at 60Hz, and now I get memory errors each time I try to join a server. At least the VST still works though...
  • wnnwnn Zombie Panic modeller Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16960Members
    edited August 2004
    You can change the full screen refresh rate in the registry.

    Start > Run > Regedit > HKEY_CURRENT_USER > Software > Valve > Source > Settings > And Then Edit 'ScreenRefreshRate' (for 75hz put in 4d, for 60, put in 3c, you cant type letters in there you'll have to copy them from notepad or something, play with 3-4 and a-e letters.)
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Aug 19 2004, 05:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Aug 19 2004, 05:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Set a batch file then <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    delete the folder
    then execute halflife.exe

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ah, .bat.. how i love the <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    how :|
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->rmdir /s /q "C:\Path\To\SteamApps\Whatever the CS:S folder is named"
    cd "C:\Path\To\SteamApps\Whatever"
    hl2.exe -command -line -shortcuts<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

    Save that as CSS.BAT, put it somewhere and create a shortcut to it, then launch from that. If you have to run CSS from Steam to re-create the CSS directory, then just use the BAT to rmdir and double-click it before you run CSS.
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    Forgive the nastyness of the pics, whenever I take a screeny the jpeg compression is at 50% anyone know how to change it?

    Anyhow -
    <img src='Http://www.darkbeforedawn.net/external/css1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Bumpy floor <3

    <img src='Http://www.darkbeforedawn.net/external/css2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Reflections. Dont think it reflects player models yet tho <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    (the reflection on the tyres is pretty impressive when rolling around indoors/underground)

    <img src='Http://www.darkbeforedawn.net/external/css3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Smoke

    <img src='Http://www.darkbeforedawn.net/external/css4.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Haha speaker test map.

    <img src='Http://www.darkbeforedawn.net/external/flashlight.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
    Flashlight sprite bug?

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    The thing that's impressed me most about CS:Sauce is the subtlety of it all. It runs smooth and silky like a baby's arse, lots of little details and suff, like the spec maps on the tiled floors, the light rays through the windows, the glare from the sun, the reflection in the rifle scope. This isn't doom 3, they don't throw every single effect on every surface and shout "JESUS CHRIST CAN YOU SEE OUR EFFECTS!!!" No, they use them responsibly and, personally, i think they really add to it looking sexy.

    The new skybox thing is extremely cool too. In dust, those domes ontop of the central building, are part of the skybox, they're not actually built into the main level. Go into noclip and look for the skybox. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    I love the 4th pic.. what is it? Is it set up?
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-eediot+Aug 19 2004, 11:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Aug 19 2004, 11:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love the 4th pic.. what is it? Is it set up? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    type map test_speakers in the console and it'll run it.

    I think it's that one, type maps * in the console and look at the map list if i'm wrong. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    I don't have CS:S <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> What is it of, though? Is it like... a map screenshot, an ingame screenshot, some hype media, what?
  • UnCriticalUnCritical Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 73Members, Constellation
    If you go to audio options theres an option for testing your speaker setup.
    It then loads that map (which is just that exact image, with the camera locked from above) and it cycles through each of your speakers (left speaker, centre, right speaker etc etc) and a little light flashes up for each speaker as it does (you can see the speakers in the corner of the room).

    Thats pretty much it.

    The effect i liked best is the little floating particles in the domed room on de_dust (you can also just see them above the plants in the 4th screenshot.)
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    Well the first time I did the stress test it crashed before it had even started but it managed to crash everything else that was running in the back ground....

    Ran it a second time and it was okay uploaded the results to valve then clicked find server an nothing happened <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> could still click quit tho so I did.
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Start > Run > Regedit > HKEY_CURRENT_USER > Software > Valve > Source > Settings > And Then Edit 'ScreenRefreshRate' (for 75hz put in 4d, for 60, put in 3c, you cant type letters in there you'll have to copy them from notepad or something, play with 3-4 and a-e letters.)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's hexadecimal. Open up the windows calculator, type the refresh rate you want. Then press = and then press the hex button and you'll get your number. (BTW. 4d is 77...)
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well, I've now tested it both on DX9 and DX8 conditions, and I've gotta say, VALVe needs to get their crap together. By no means is the engine optimized for GeForce users at all, and if it is, we could easily power DX9(though not as good as the ATi cards). When running not on DX9, I experienced about 30-60 fps average(low end proc), with it, 15-30 average, but I've got a gut feeling it can do quite a lot better(at least 30-40 average).
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    The only thing that ruins it is the retard map exploiters ¬_¬
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Quaunaut, VALVe alledges to have spent about 6 times more time optimizing for the FX series than the radeon series. Either they are lying or the geforce FX series really hurts when you use 32-bit precision(per colour component) like many other benchmarks and games have indicated or VALVe really did a bad job of optimizing it even if they spent the time they alledges to have.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Aug 19 2004, 06:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Aug 19 2004, 06:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Quaunaut, VALVe alledges to have spent about 6 times more time optimizing for the FX series than the radeon series. Either they are lying or the geforce FX series really hurts when you use 32-bit precision(per colour component) like many other benchmarks and games have indicated or VALVe really did a bad job of optimizing it even if they spent the time they alledges to have. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I honestly doubt they did. I get better performance in Pandora Tommorrow multiplay, which shouldn't be happenning(being the graphics for that are MUCH better).

    As to the game: MAN I'm loving this. CZ was fun because you didn't have idiots around. But this here- there's nothing like it, period. The physics, while not adding to the gameplay(much- barrels make great cover), still add to the experience. Throwing nades into the left tunnel, having the different glass and paper bits flying all over from it, maybe even a enemy's body- the stuff of greatness. And I'm getting NO more lag at all, and haven't experienced many graphical anomolies.

    The only problem I have, is one of the footstep sounds- it sounds like someone recorded it with their "Karaoke For Kids" machine.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Aug 19 2004, 07:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Aug 19 2004, 07:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Start > Run > Regedit > HKEY_CURRENT_USER > Software > Valve > Source > Settings > And Then Edit 'ScreenRefreshRate' (for 75hz put in 4d, for 60, put in 3c, you cant type letters in there you'll have to copy them from notepad or something, play with 3-4 and a-e letters.)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's hexadecimal. Open up the windows calculator, type the refresh rate you want. Then press = and then press the hex button and you'll get your number. (BTW. 4d is 77...) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or you could just click decimal checkbox and enter in your desired rate. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 19 2004, 08:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 19 2004, 08:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Aug 19 2004, 07:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Aug 19 2004, 07:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Start > Run > Regedit > HKEY_CURRENT_USER > Software > Valve > Source > Settings > And Then Edit 'ScreenRefreshRate' (for 75hz put in 4d, for 60, put in 3c, you cant type letters in there you'll have to copy them from notepad or something, play with 3-4 and a-e letters.)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's hexadecimal. Open up the windows calculator, type the refresh rate you want. Then press = and then press the hex button and you'll get your number. (BTW. 4d is 77...) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or you could just click decimal checkbox and enter in your desired rate. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But then you don't get to use the l33t windows calculator!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> lolol
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Oh, and another good thing. You get kind of a warm feeling when you open Task Manager and see the process "hl2.exe" running.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <b><i><u><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>ORGASMIC</span></span></u></i></b>
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 19 2004, 06:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 19 2004, 06:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b><i><u><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>ORGASMIC</span></span></u></i></b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen.

    Okay, after LOTS AND LOTS of playing, here are my thoughts:

    Good:<ul><li>Smoke Effects(all of them, including the very cool light from muzzle flash effect)</li><li>More Balanced Weapons(you are NOT gonna tell me that a AK is gonna be sniper accurate on the first shot, and the next go behind me, are you?)</li><li>Grenade Effects(bottles and objects flying around, including frag)</li><li>Flashbang Effects(has to be seen to be believed)</li><li>Night Vision(it actually looks like Night Vision now- but lets hope it gets a use now!)</li><li>Streamlined Ammo Buying</li><li>Blood Effects(while good, not as good as DOOM 3's. But definately good)</li><li>VERY good Ragdoll Physics</li><li>Overall Coolness of the Physics Engine</li><li>A Kickass Looking map</li><li>Weapons Have more kick in sound, and just sound and look cooler(and feel like real weapons)</li></ul>
    Bad:<ul><li>AWPs are now almost invincible, being nothing happens when you shoot other than going out of scope, and the person dying.</li><li>The FAMAS and C1 DEFENDER (the 2 alternates to M4 and AK) do almost no damage at all</li><li>Grenade Problems(getting stuck on ground, against a character, general problems)</li><li>This is definately a beta- a small bit of lag is always there(even when I am at 30 ping), and a definate FPS problem is apparent.</li><li>Grenade Damage- your gonna tell me that a Frag Grenade(yes, they are those now) isn't going to absolutely kill a guy standing next to it? Bull crap.</li><li>Non-Dynamic Breaking Bottles(though them launching is pretty cool)</li><li>No Wood Breakage</li><li>Can't Stand On Objects(why can't I stand on top of my barrel and shoot from up there? Comon D:)</li><li>Sound Anomolies. Sometimes things don't shoot, sometimes sounds happen out of no where, low quality spots, scratch spots</li></ul>
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    Honestly, so far i'm not impressed with it. It's just plain Cs for me, nothing really worth getting excited about. You say the flashbangs are amazing, yes they're good but nothing that hasn't been done before..
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Starchy+Aug 19 2004, 08:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Starchy @ Aug 19 2004, 08:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Honestly, so far i'm not impressed with it. It's just plain Cs for me, nothing really worth getting excited about. You say the flashbangs are amazing, yes they're good but nothing that hasn't been done before.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, I don't know about you, but mine shows burnt retina locations and the such when going back to regular. And frankly, while the effects have been done before, they look REAL now, not just some BS.
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    Plus when a nade goes off near you, your sound goes quiter and there is a ringing noise.
  • BlobbyBlobby Join Date: 2004-06-11 Member: 29234Members
    THINGS TO NOTICE:

    - Watch the scope on a gun... it reflects what's behind you.
    - Look up in the underground T intersection... dust particles in the light.

    BUGS:

    - Bullet holes aren't left on the certain sides of the crate of bricks.

    SUGGESTIONS:

    - Let me ride the tires down the hill like in River City Ransom! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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